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copper member
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May 27, 2022, 10:07:18 AM
I have seen the website and would like to say good luck with your project. I have found a mistake you made in the affiliate paytable section. You have 1st tier which says the percentage you get but on the 2nd and 3rd tier it just says zero. " https://prnt.sc/IOizR4V_W_gv "
I have just checked and came to know they have not updated that yet. This seems to me that they are not customer friendly. Already several days passed from this post but they have not updated anything on that page. If they promote but the commission of the promotion not received by the promoter then why the promoter will promote that.
legendary
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By the way, I see verification being a hot topic here, one question. What is verification useful for, is it for withdrawal approval, or for promotional marketing from Wizary? I see a lot of objections when it comes to mobile number verification, but it's not a big deal for account security.
I don't see any phone verification when registering, I'm not sure what you're talking about. is they remove it?.
Yes, they've removed the phone verification requirement after many members expressed their unwillingness to register just because of it (and I can't blame them btw). I believe they requested it to prevent users from abusing their no deposit bonus and now that this offer expired, there is no need to keep it. I hope they will remove old users' phone numbers from their databases too.

I doubt on removing those details since it can also be a requirement for a KYC if ever but those who provided their numbers are more willing to give it just to get the bonus so I don't see any reason to worry about especially if the owners allows it in the first place. The next issue here is the withdrawal based on the comments here, I'll find this out today as I try to register on this site hopefully to have a smooth experience. Anyway, any plan for a marketing campaign like a signature campaign Wizary?
logically if they had received the phone number from a registered user,  they will receive the data even if they removed it.  I've experienced about phone number, where unresponsiblity person uses it for the massive marketing. They send text message deposit promotions and ask to join the casino.

Yes, in some way the telephone numbers can always be used to carry out a very strong marketing campaign, however I do not know how good it can be so that they do not abuse the system for the assigned bonuses, if I do not remember there are programs that simulate numbers from any country and it arrives as SMS to their phones even without having that phone line, so those who know about these tools can do it, however by doing some kind of KYC not so demanding it gives the initiative if a cheater wants taking advantage cannot give false data because at the time of withdrawing another small KYC may be required.
sr. member
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To deal with multiple accounts, I don't think reducing promotions is the right solution, maybe they can implement identity verification for accounts suspected of abusing promotions. I have seen several casinos reducing their promotions or tightening the terms of promotion, and as a result the casinos lost a lot of players and closed.
But if those suspected accounts comply to verification, will the casino released their winnings? If I am the owner I won't do it but it's good if the abuser will fall for the bait and reveal himself. I can use this to sue him later on. We need to stop them because they can also do this to other casinos. The abusers are a cancer to the business owners which operates fairly and legally.

There are other things that are important other than promotions, this makes the loyal customers stay on a casino even if the casino cut down some of its promotions. I think new casinos have a reason on why they came up with a low requirement. Maybe that is to attract users and after it, they can tighten it a little bit.

Of course all casinos want to stop it, but how? I haven't seen a better solution than asking for identity verification to handle those multi-accounts

When they tighten the requirements, the casino will lose its players, and they will come back like a new casino without players
hero member
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It's not wise idea to have minimum deposit equivalent with dollar value because it will cause a problem in some cases. Let's say I wanted to send $10 at the current Bitcoin's value right now it's 0,00034 BTC, but since I use low priority fees... it may take around 1-2 hours to be appeared on the casino (depends on minimum confirmations of each site). However my 0,00034 BTC after 1-2 hours isn't $10 anymore, it's $9,50 and I would be blamed since I send lower than $10.

If you want to have minimum deposit, make it equivalent to Bitcoin.

You have a point. That’s a relevant question, and challenging to think for an answer, from a co-user point of view. I hope that OP would really be back in here and try to answer queries a much as possible. I am hopeful since I have also seen them pay attention to user comments and suggestions.
Op doesn't seem to really be back and has no intention of providing answers to many of the questions here. So many doubts kept popping up. It's hard to believe a casino that as a newcomer leaves so many questions. I think the OP is busy fixing the casino or indeed from the start he had no intention of continuing this thread down a better promotion path.
hero member
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To deal with multiple accounts, I don't think reducing promotions is the right solution, maybe they can implement identity verification for accounts suspected of abusing promotions. I have seen several casinos reducing their promotions or tightening the terms of promotion, and as a result the casinos lost a lot of players and closed.
But if those suspected accounts comply to verification, will the casino released their winnings? If I am the owner I won't do it but it's good if the abuser will fall for the bait and reveal himself. I can use this to sue him later on. We need to stop them because they can also do this to other casinos. The abusers are a cancer to the business owners which operates fairly and legally.

There are other things that are important other than promotions, this makes the loyal customers stay on a casino even if the casino cut down some of its promotions. I think new casinos have a reason on why they came up with a low requirement. Maybe that is to attract users and after it, they can tighten it a little bit.
legendary
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low requirements will be very likely to be abused by cheaters, you can see other new casinos holding promotions and are now overwhelmed because of the large number of multi accounts even though the wager requirement is quite high 30x. Casinos must have the right formula to be able to avoid or at least reduce their promotions from being violated otherwise they will only be considered as scam casino because cannot pay players winnings.

To deal with multiple accounts, I don't think reducing promotions is the right solution, maybe they can implement identity verification for accounts suspected of abusing promotions. I have seen several casinos reducing their promotions or tightening the terms of promotion, and as a result the casinos lost a lot of players and closed.

Identity verification will be the best solution to avoid possible abuse of the promo/bonus but it wont be attractive promo and may reduce the interest since they are new site.
I believe there are some sites with similar bonuses or promo but people are unable to abuse it because there might be an early warning system in the site to detect abuse attempt or multi accounts.
New casinos should learn from the older casinos on how they offer promotions but they can minimize the number of abuse.
hero member
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You have a point. That’s a relevant question, and challenging to think for an answer, from a co-user point of view. I hope that OP would really be back in here and try to answer queries a much as possible. I am hopeful since I have also seen them pay attention to user comments and suggestions.

Op has been offline for a while, maybe he will come back soon and answer all the questions. In order for a casino to run successfully, the casino team must properly implement user suggestions. Because this will make the platform more user friendly for other users. Many times casino teams do not have real experience about many problems, so many users think it is important to inform them about that problem. So that the casino can solve the problem.
legendary
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It's not wise idea to have minimum deposit equivalent with dollar value because it will cause a problem in some cases. Let's say I wanted to send $10 at the current Bitcoin's value right now it's 0,00034 BTC, but since I use low priority fees... it may take around 1-2 hours to be appeared on the casino (depends on minimum confirmations of each site). However my 0,00034 BTC after 1-2 hours isn't $10 anymore, it's $9,50 and I would be blamed since I send lower than $10.

If you want to have minimum deposit, make it equivalent to Bitcoin.

You have a point. That’s a relevant question, and challenging to think for an answer, from a co-user point of view. I hope that OP would really be back in here and try to answer queries a much as possible. I am hopeful since I have also seen them pay attention to user comments and suggestions.
legendary
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low requirements will be very likely to be abused by cheaters, you can see other new casinos holding promotions and are now overwhelmed because of the large number of multi accounts even though the wager requirement is quite high 30x. Casinos must have the right formula to be able to avoid or at least reduce their promotions from being violated otherwise they will only be considered as scam casino because cannot pay players winnings.

To deal with multiple accounts, I don't think reducing promotions is the right solution, maybe they can implement identity verification for accounts suspected of abusing promotions. I have seen several casinos reducing their promotions or tightening the terms of promotion, and as a result the casinos lost a lot of players and closed.
Not sure with multiple account can make some casino project bankrupt, actually looking for reason how to stop member withdrawing and deposit still available. I think if have any casino get trouble with cheater or multiple account they can detect with IP access and not find new reason when getting trouble withdrawing. I think better stop with bonus promotion and new casino keep focus by giving reward like several member active wager and reach higher transaction amount every day.
sr. member
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I'm interested in that question. Yes, it is non-recoverable, for example, minimum deposit is $10 and you send $5, you will lose your money. I saw it in the wizary deposit Note.
It's not wise idea to have minimum deposit equivalent with dollar value because it will cause a problem in some cases. Let's say I wanted to send $10 at the current Bitcoin's value right now it's 0,00034 BTC, but since I use low priority fees... it may take around 1-2 hours to be appeared on the casino (depends on minimum confirmations of each site). However my 0,00034 BTC after 1-2 hours isn't $10 anymore, it's $9,50 and I would be blamed since I send lower than $10.

If you want to have minimum deposit, make it equivalent to Bitcoin.
I help you ask the question, because the OP has been inactive in a few days. I only got a small answer "at the time when the coins are received by us, we convert them"
I know that answer will not satisfy you, me, and the others. But I think some people here are aware of this problem, and if I were there I would have sent more, maybe 10.5 usd because I realized this casino has a minimum deposit limit

hero member
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You have seen it on their page or you have created multi account to check this that they will terminate account if anyone creates account with disposal email or phone number? How they will be able to know the phone number is myself or I am using another person's phone number if I can provide the security code they provide to me.
I have seen on their page, I wouldn't want to risking my account for doing that lol.
Correct, that's the question since we can have so many alternative email and have an access over it, so there's no problem if they ask me now or in the future. AFAIK there's a disposable email that can be used for entire life, not limited time, as long as you remember your email username.
legendary
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I'm interested in that question. Yes, it is non-recoverable, for example, minimum deposit is $10 and you send $5, you will lose your money. I saw it in the wizary deposit Note.
It's not wise idea to have minimum deposit equivalent with dollar value because it will cause a problem in some cases. Let's say I wanted to send $10 at the current Bitcoin's value right now it's 0,00034 BTC, but since I use low priority fees... it may take around 1-2 hours to be appeared on the casino (depends on minimum confirmations of each site). However my 0,00034 BTC after 1-2 hours isn't $10 anymore, it's $9,50 and I would be blamed since I send lower than $10.

If you want to have minimum deposit, make it equivalent to Bitcoin.
sr. member
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@yayayo nice question. The same thing runs on my head as I've been depositing random amount on the casino that i play but I always get them. Maybe all of them don't have a minimum deposit? Now, I need to be more careful when depositing on a new casino and much better if we check their rules first.

I'm interested in that question. Yes, it is non-recoverable, for example, minimum deposit is $10 and you send $5, you will lose your money. I saw it in the wizary deposit Note.

Maybe in the future the wizard can change the minimum deposit to no minimum deposit Cheesy
Because I often get errors like that
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The $20 seems fair for me but I think it is much better if they don't set any minimum deposits what if user accidentally sent $10 what would happen to it? can he transfer another $10 before it reflects to his account or that $10 will be lost?

ya.ya.yo!

By the way, it has been change, I have contact the customer service wizard, and they confirm to me that the minimum deposit is 10 usd in coins.

some of our input was heard by them, and the wizard has made some changes to make it more comfortable for the players.
Nice to know that they are following the users' requests. It's important because on this simple way, they can easily gain the sympathy of the users and users will love to stick on them if they'l be like this forever. 20 usd minimum deposit seems huge but 10 usd looks affordable now for small time gamblers that only wants to play and test their luck.

@yayayo nice question. The same thing runs on my head as I've been depositing random amount on the casino that i play but I always get them. Maybe all of them don't have a minimum deposit? Now, I need to be more careful when depositing on a new casino and much better if we check their rules first.
newbie
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I have seen the website and would like to say good luck with your project. I have found a mistake you made in the affiliate paytable section. You have 1st tier which says the percentage you get but on the 2nd and 3rd tier it just says zero. " https://prnt.sc/IOizR4V_W_gv "
legendary
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Why are multi accounts such a problem anyway?

Not a big problem

There has been little discussion about tackling promotional abuse, which is often a major issue for new crypto casinos.


That just seems a bit strange to me. The promotional offers are not really all that fancy, in fact, if they wanted to stem the abuse of promotional offers, they should find a way to make promotional offers which would not be worth going through the trouble of making accounts, submitting new KYC faked documents and going through VPNs. Or, better yet, they could restrict promotions to people who have already gambled a certain amount.

If someone wants to gamble their money away, its just going to happen faster on multiple accounts rather than one account. So that seems like a win win for the online gambling casino, to me.
sr. member
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Why are multi accounts such a problem anyway?

Not a big problem

There has been little discussion about tackling promotional abuse, which is often a major issue for new crypto casinos.

and they confirm to me that the minimum deposit is 10 usd in coins.
A little change, I'll try to register here and make my first deposit, hopefully it's good luck for me
copper member
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IMO this casino is too strict, when you need to sign up they will ask your phone number. They did mention both of email and phone number used to sign up must be your main account, not the disposable one, if they suspect you're using disposable email or phone number, they will confiscated your funds and terminated your accounts.

I think the team should make it more friendly, otherwise I doubt many people will interested.
You have seen it on their page or you have created multi account to check this that they will terminate account if anyone creates account with disposal email or phone number? How they will be able to know the phone number is myself or I am using another person's phone number if I can provide the security code they provide to me.
sr. member
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The $20 seems fair for me but I think it is much better if they don't set any minimum deposits what if user accidentally sent $10 what would happen to it? can he transfer another $10 before it reflects to his account or that $10 will be lost?

ya.ya.yo!

By the way, it has been change, I have contact the customer service wizard, and they confirm to me that the minimum deposit is 10 usd in coins.

some of our input was heard by them, and the wizard has made some changes to make it more comfortable for the players.
legendary
Activity: 2282
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
low requirements will be very likely to be abused by cheaters, you can see other new casinos holding promotions and are now overwhelmed because of the large number of multi accounts even though the wager requirement is quite high 30x. Casinos must have the right formula to be able to avoid or at least reduce their promotions from being violated otherwise they will only be considered as scam casino because cannot pay players winnings.

To deal with multiple accounts, I don't think reducing promotions is the right solution, maybe they can implement identity verification for accounts suspected of abusing promotions. I have seen several casinos reducing their promotions or tightening the terms of promotion, and as a result the casinos lost a lot of players and closed.

I think a decent strategy to dealing with multiple accounts can be found in identifying VPN users and also banning VPN usage across the entire website and letting your client base know about the VPN ban.

Furthermore you could introduce a strict KYC policy, although it is known that both VPN detection and KYC can be avoided with obscure technical methods and fake passports or similiar things of the same sort.

Why are multi accounts such a problem anyway?
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