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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 14, 2021, 03:52:27 PM

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 12, 2021, 10:45:53 PM

About wallets, consolidate small inputs, maintenance and secure wallets, broadcast transactions, etc. They need to get fees and it is not realistic to waive all transaction fees.
It can result in complaints if transaction fee is not static but flexible with the network. Cheap today can be expensive tomorrow. Cheap sacrifice today from casino can be expensive tomorrow.

What you are saying makes sense, but that isn't an excuse to charge $20 as the withdrawal fees for BTC. Just look at the competition. Sites like Stake, Primedice etc charge $7 while sites like Bitcasino don't charge any withdrawal fees for BTC.

How do you think they are surviving in the market? This is why Wolf.bet needs to drop the BTC withdrawal fees asap in my opinion.

^Probably he meant that the withdrawal fee should be the same on the BTC network because as we see BTC transaction fee these days are very like 1 sat or even 5 sats and that is not $20, it is totally different. I don't know why most of the gambling sites have their own fixed rate withdrawal payment while even others can manage a small transaction fee or even it is free fee like FurtuneJack, Bitcasino, and Sportsbet, it seems they are generous gambling site on this way and I think I agree with you, $20 for the fee is too much, it could be small gamblers will not comeback.

Maybe to fasten up the withdrawal processing and they cannot receive any complain regarding on stuck transaction or anything related to that issues. But I agree with you here paying such huge fees is not good maybe they should lower down according to recommended transaction fee of the network so that gamblers will not complain about this when btc transaction fee became more lesser. Provably existing gamblers will be happy if they follow what 3 gambling site you mention did unto this.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 14, 2021, 01:03:36 PM

Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 12, 2021, 10:45:53 PM

About wallets, consolidate small inputs, maintenance and secure wallets, broadcast transactions, etc. They need to get fees and it is not realistic to waive all transaction fees.
It can result in complaints if transaction fee is not static but flexible with the network. Cheap today can be expensive tomorrow. Cheap sacrifice today from casino can be expensive tomorrow.

What you are saying makes sense, but that isn't an excuse to charge $20 as the withdrawal fees for BTC. Just look at the competition. Sites like Stake, Primedice etc charge $7 while sites like Bitcasino don't charge any withdrawal fees for BTC.

How do you think they are surviving in the market? This is why Wolf.bet needs to drop the BTC withdrawal fees asap in my opinion.

^Probably he meant that the withdrawal fee should be the same on the BTC network because as we see BTC transaction fee these days are very like 1 sat or even 5 sats and that is not $20, it is totally different. I don't know why most of the gambling sites have their own fixed rate withdrawal payment while even others can manage a small transaction fee or even it is free fee like FurtuneJack, Bitcasino, and Sportsbet, it seems they are generous gambling site on this way and I think I agree with you, $20 for the fee is too much, it could be small gamblers will not comeback.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 12, 2021, 10:45:53 PM

Bitcoin transaction fee depends on mempool and how many waiting transactions on the network, in mempools. If Wolf.bet or any casino want to attract users by reducing the transaction fee or waive the fee, they will have to accept loss.

The loss can be small if transaction fee on the network is not too expensive but it will be too much to waive if fee rises to the Moon. Gambling sites are as same as crypto exchanges, they have to do many things for their operations.

About wallets, consolidate small inputs, maintenance and secure wallets, broadcast transactions, etc. They need to get fees and it is not realistic to waive all transaction fees.
It can result in complaints if transaction fee is not static but flexible with the network. Cheap today can be expensive tomorrow. Cheap sacrifice today from casino can be expensive tomorrow.

As a marketing move I do not think that casinos should be giving stuff for free in that regard. Sure do a big promotion or bonus or competition and what not, because those do get attention, look at bitcointalk even here there are places with 100k+ rewards, and that is good but to say that you will not get withdrawal fee then you end up with both paying a ton of money to keep withdrawal fee cheap or free and then still not doing that much marketing, which is not what a casino needs.

I believe it is fine to have bitcoin withdrawals paid, but make it dynamic and then we could talk about the situation of what you can charge, if the mempool is filled then it will be higher, if it is empty it will be lower and it will change constantly. No matter what they end up doing, paying more than most other places is not acceptable and paying zero would be not ideal for casino, so they need to lower it to a competitive level that's it.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 12, 2021, 10:45:53 PM

About wallets, consolidate small inputs, maintenance and secure wallets, broadcast transactions, etc. They need to get fees and it is not realistic to waive all transaction fees.
It can result in complaints if transaction fee is not static but flexible with the network. Cheap today can be expensive tomorrow. Cheap sacrifice today from casino can be expensive tomorrow.

What you are saying makes sense, but that isn't an excuse to charge $20 as the withdrawal fees for BTC. Just look at the competition. Sites like Stake, Primedice etc charge $7 while sites like Bitcasino don't charge any withdrawal fees for BTC.

How do you think they are surviving in the market? This is why Wolf.bet needs to drop the BTC withdrawal fees asap in my opinion.

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Quote from: janggernaut on July 12, 2021, 11:16:47 PM

This is great news for those who BNB believer, as BNB will be burn their coin in 16th burning soon, obviously BNB price will be increased more than now. Does that mean, wolfbet finally supported BSC chain to deposit? There is a chance for other coin and token to accept on wolfbet too in the future which running on BSC chain.

Well, with the burning going on soon, there will be a big reaction to the increase in the price of BNB in the future, but so far the price is still in the $300s range and there may still be no significant changes to this BNB burning

The BSC chain has been liked a lot even large projects have now integrated many into the BSC chain. Wolfbet would be more than happy if Wolfbet added the BSC chain network and this made it easier for us to do cheaper transactions, with the adoption of other tokens.

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Quote from: janggernaut on July 12, 2021, 11:16:47 PM

This is great news for those who BNB believer, as BNB will be burn their coin in 16th burning soon, obviously BNB price will be increased more than now. Does that mean, wolfbet finally supported BSC chain to deposit? There is a chance for other coin and token to accept on wolfbet too in the future which running on BSC chain.

Changpeng Zao supports BNB very good by integrations of many promotions, burn and buy-back events as well as building up the Binance Smart Chain.

In the future when Binance Smart Chain launches its native main net, you know what you will see with BNB on exchanges. It will be shilled on social media as an oppennt that will make a flippening with Ethereum. What price do you think BNB will have ?
$1000, $2000 or $4000?

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Quote from: TIMOM on July 11, 2021, 01:14:58 PM

now after they have said several times that they will definitely solve the problem in 24 hours, they say that you have to wait 72 hours, wait wait wait, this is the worst thing that can happen to a player. WAIT.

At least you got your money back, you just didn't patient to wait. Many sites ussually will settle this kind of problem in 72 hours, that's why they told you to wait. You just inpatient and want your money back asap, when they need to check and do other things to do.

Quote from: Applesoda on July 12, 2021, 02:05:39 PM

New Coin available at Wolf.Bet.

You can now Deposit, Play and Withdraw using BNB!

This is great news for those who BNB believer, as BNB will be burn their coin in 16th burning soon, obviously BNB price will be increased more than now. Does that mean, wolfbet finally supported BSC chain to deposit? There is a chance for other coin and token to accept on wolfbet too in the future which running on BSC chain.

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Quote from: perfect999 on July 12, 2021, 03:05:37 PM

I think the point for people is that even if there are other coins that could be played, they still prefer bitcoin to be cheap, because why not? At the end of the day even if there are coins that could be free to withdraw and deposit, this is not an excuse for bitcoin to be one of the most expensive ones in the world. Pressure the casino to drop the bitcoin price to a normal place so that it would be fair to people who will play with bitcoin but also just handle it in a way that it would show the world that wolf.bet is not an expensive one and all of those will be easier.

I mean it is definitely not a horrible idea to have wolf.bet do a marketing campaign as having cheapest bitcoin withdrawal fee and minimum withdrawal, that is just what they could do to get some more attention. Otherwise if we just moved to altcoins at every time a place charges high for bitcoin then we are just letting them take the charge and that is just not what customers do.

Bitcoin transaction fee depends on mempool and how many waiting transactions on the network, in mempools. If Wolf.bet or any casino want to attract users by reducing the transaction fee or waive the fee, they will have to accept loss.

The loss can be small if transaction fee on the network is not too expensive but it will be too much to waive if fee rises to the Moon. Gambling sites are as same as crypto exchanges, they have to do many things for their operations.

About wallets, consolidate small inputs, maintenance and secure wallets, broadcast transactions, etc. They need to get fees and it is not realistic to waive all transaction fees.
It can result in complaints if transaction fee is not static but flexible with the network. Cheap today can be expensive tomorrow. Cheap sacrifice today from casino can be expensive tomorrow.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on July 10, 2021, 11:45:20 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 04, 2021, 12:57:59 PM

Take a look at this table.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-withdrawal-fees-and-withdrawal-amounts-on-crypto-casinos-5333602

Wolf.bet literally charges the 3rd highest BTC withdrawal fee in the list.

I understand your point of view and I do agree with it to some extent, but I am strictly against the high BTC withdrawal fee since some competitors charge zero BTC withdrawal fee while some charge a couple of dollars. Let's just agree to disagree.

That is why it is definitely A LOT more important to gamble with other coins here, because BTC is even harder here, the withdrawal fee is worse than most other major places and that is just means that playing with BTC here while knowing you are paying one of the biggest costs just means that you literally hate other altcoins, there is no other explanation.

I am not defending wolf.bet here, of course they should drop their bitcoin withdrawal fee, hell make it free if you can because as gamblers why wouldn't we prefer that, however if they are not doing that then why should you still keep on paying that much? Like you have to be fixated on bitcoin so much that you should even ignore the very existence of any other coin in order to keep paying this very high withdrawal fee nearly no other place charges and not gamble with the altcoins that are nearly free compared to it.

I think the point for people is that even if there are other coins that could be played, they still prefer bitcoin to be cheap, because why not? At the end of the day even if there are coins that could be free to withdraw and deposit, this is not an excuse for bitcoin to be one of the most expensive ones in the world. Pressure the casino to drop the bitcoin price to a normal place so that it would be fair to people who will play with bitcoin but also just handle it in a way that it would show the world that wolf.bet is not an expensive one and all of those will be easier.

I mean it is definitely not a horrible idea to have wolf.bet do a marketing campaign as having cheapest bitcoin withdrawal fee and minimum withdrawal, that is just what they could do to get some more attention. Otherwise if we just moved to altcoins at every time a place charges high for bitcoin then we are just letting them take the charge and that is just not what customers do.

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Quote from: TIMOM on July 12, 2021, 02:54:32 AM

it's okay, my money back

It was always going to be solved, just it took longer than expected for your case. The sportsbook is still very new so expect things to be slower at times because the team must be expanding slowly as obviously, the load has increased with sports betting introduced.

Like Haunebu said it was weekend time so it was longer than usual. 24 hours window is what they aim to solve your issues within, but as a player myself we need to understand things can be slower at times.

I have had to wait like 4 days for a legit bet to get settled (not at wolf.bet) because it was an e-sporting event and the odds provider messed up things.

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now after they have said several times that they will definitely solve the problem in 24 hours, they say that you have to wait 72 hours, wait wait wait, this is the worst thing that can happen to a player. WAIT.

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Quote from: TIMOM on July 11, 2021, 11:48:03 AM

Seriously? I know what day of the week it is. Who are you? If you can't say something smart then just keep quiet.

Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. You do realise that you are behaving like a whining child, don't you? Work hard to improve your brain-power since you clearly seem to be lacking in that area.

Quote from: TIMOM on July 11, 2021, 11:48:03 AM

I didn’t pull them by the tongue, they told me to wait 24 hours, and they didn’t keep their promise.

Majority of their staff are probably unavailable because it's the weekend which is why they probably didn't resolve your issue yet(If it's actually a legitimate one - > Trust feedback).

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 11, 2021, 11:27:26 AM

Quote from: SquallLeonhart on July 10, 2021, 11:45:20 AM

just means that you literally hate other altcoins, there is no other explanation.

Like you have to be fixated on bitcoin so much that you should even ignore the very existence of any other coin in order to keep paying this very high withdrawal fee nearly no other place charges and not gamble with the altcoins that are nearly free compared to it.

Already mentioned earlier that I do gamble with altcoins like LTC, Doge, XRP etc and I use them to withdraw my funds from this site. Our opinions regarding this matter clearly don't match.

Quote from: TIMOM on July 11, 2021, 09:40:18 AM

I bet on sports yesterday, the game was interrupted for technical reasons, and it will not be resumed, they promised in the chat that they would return my bet within 24 hours, but 24 hours passed and the money was not returned,

It's the weekend. They might be busy due to which they haven't processed your request yet. Stay patient for a little while longer.

Seriously? I know what day of the week it is. Who are you? If you can't say something smart then just keep quiet.

I didn’t pull them by the tongue, they told me to wait 24 hours, and they didn’t keep their promise.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on July 10, 2021, 11:45:20 AM

just means that you literally hate other altcoins, there is no other explanation.

Like you have to be fixated on bitcoin so much that you should even ignore the very existence of any other coin in order to keep paying this very high withdrawal fee nearly no other place charges and not gamble with the altcoins that are nearly free compared to it.

Already mentioned earlier that I do gamble with altcoins like LTC, Doge, XRP etc and I use them to withdraw my funds from this site. Our opinions regarding this matter clearly don't match.

Quote from: TIMOM on July 11, 2021, 09:40:18 AM

I bet on sports yesterday, the game was interrupted for technical reasons, and it will not be resumed, they promised in the chat that they would return my bet within 24 hours, but 24 hours passed and the money was not returned,

It's the weekend. They might be busy due to which they haven't processed your request yet. Stay patient for a little while longer.

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I bet on sports yesterday, the game was interrupted for technical reasons, and it will not be resumed, they promised in the chat that they would return my bet within 24 hours, but 24 hours passed and the money was not returned,

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 04, 2021, 12:57:59 PM

Take a look at this table.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-withdrawal-fees-and-withdrawal-amounts-on-crypto-casinos-5333602

Wolf.bet literally charges the 3rd highest BTC withdrawal fee in the list.

I understand your point of view and I do agree with it to some extent, but I am strictly against the high BTC withdrawal fee since some competitors charge zero BTC withdrawal fee while some charge a couple of dollars. Let's just agree to disagree.

That is why it is definitely A LOT more important to gamble with other coins here, because BTC is even harder here, the withdrawal fee is worse than most other major places and that is just means that playing with BTC here while knowing you are paying one of the biggest costs just means that you literally hate other altcoins, there is no other explanation.

I am not defending wolf.bet here, of course they should drop their bitcoin withdrawal fee, hell make it free if you can because as gamblers why wouldn't we prefer that, however if they are not doing that then why should you still keep on paying that much? Like you have to be fixated on bitcoin so much that you should even ignore the very existence of any other coin in order to keep paying this very high withdrawal fee nearly no other place charges and not gamble with the altcoins that are nearly free compared to it.

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Quote from: ekiller on July 05, 2021, 02:58:39 PM

How to cancel pending bet ?

You can't! At least I didn't see that feature... I am not sure can you cancel the bet in any casino!? There's a cash-out feature when you wish to cash out before the end of the game, with partial winnings! But it's not canceling the bet, depending on the time when you request cash-out (and score if a game is already on), will determine the amount you can cash-out, and it's never your full bet!
Cashing out is a nice feature, when you place a bet and things go sideways you can cash out at least something! I believe Wolf will add it one day, of course, if they plan to reach some high standards in the sports betting industry!

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