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Efficiency is a necessity for advancement, nothing wrong with that at all.  How is sitting in traffic for an hour each way to get to work and back every day efficient and useful direction for a human being, its a waste and it creates pollution so that would be the immoral part.   There is an argument for some benefits in working together in an office but alot of modern work is either isolated or distributed unit based work that is already divided and ideal for work by a work force in multiple locations.   

I find the companies which offer a choice are the most realistic as it obviously has some particular benefits for some people especially.  It does make review of that work done away from the office vital and so not every workplace will be compatible with the idea. 

Elon Musk is a hypocrite of course, able to fly by helicopter and jet and make whatever schedule suits himself.  Of course he would want people to follow whatever he decides, thats upto him I guess.
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Why would working from home or laptop class be immoral?
I don't see anything wrong with it unless you are cheating on your employer, sleeping or slacking cause you know that you could do it since you are at home and your boss or employer couldn't see you.
But for me there is nothing wrong with working from home or having online class, it just shows that they are willing to do their job no matter what, some people thinks that working from home is easy but it isn't the case for everyone.
There are parents who decide to work from home in order to watch their kids at the same time, so it isn't easy for them, working, cooking and taking care of kids they are multi tasking cause they want their child/children to have a better future, and create some memories while they are growing.
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I think productivity is probably less at home, people will be more likely to slack & not work as hard if they don’t have a boss or management peering over their shoulder in an office. It’s not something I’m keen on & if I had a business I would prefer my employees to be in the office where I can keep my eyes on them.
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So is this related to working from home? Unfortunately not all jobs cannot be done from home, or even only a few jobs can be done from home. I have no problem with the laptop class and agree because nowadays we cannot avoid technological advances. the same was true during the Covid-19 pandemic and most people were forced to carry out activities online.
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I just watched a video talking about Laptop Class where Elon sees working from home as moral issue. Curious to know what your take on this kind of view because there are actually people who also agree with him.  And some don't of course. It could be different in the Bitcoin community, just a Yes or No poll to answer, and sure thing it will be good to share your opinion on why you chose Yes or say No.


I'm also working from home and I don't see any problem with this. How can working from home be a "moral issue"? Morality is about good and evil and how you as a person could help or cause damage to other people. The people, who are working from home aren't causing damage to anyone. Elon is acting like a "butthurt employer", who wants all people to work 10-12 hours in the office(or wherever they work) instead of working home and having flexible work hours. Working from home is way more convenient for introverts like me. The extroverts could meet and socialize at anytime and anywhere they want.
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Have experience working from home and from office but since my work is infront of computer
then I find no difference instead it gives me different enjoyment.

I like working in office because of new ambiance but I also love working from home because i
an closer to my family and my time is more flexible .

maybe this is depending in which or whom will need to answer this , as some loves from home
while others wanted to get out of house at least when working.
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Working from home is a big help to everyone. If you are really patient, you will find something that can generate profit online. This is a bitcoin or cryptocurrency that I know most crypto enthusiasts have had the opportunity to get a profit from.

And I'm already one of those who get a source of income, and I don't see any immorality in what I'm doing; unless we're doing it illegally here, it can be said to be immoral.
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I just watched a video talking about Laptop Class where Elon sees working from home as moral issue. Curious to know what your take on this kind of view because there are actually people who also agree with him.  And some don't of course. It could be different in the Bitcoin community, just a Yes or No poll to answer, and sure thing it will be good to share your opinion on why you chose Yes or say No.
Basically, if your moral compass is Elon Musk, then you are going to have a lot of trouble in life Cheesy Reality is that if a job can be done, then it can be done and wherever you are doesn't matter. Some work needs you to be down at the factory floor, some jobs in the world requires you to be at some office, and some jobs can be done even when you are sitting at home.

As someone who has been freelancing for nearly 8 years now, I can tell you that I have worked probably twice as much at home then I worked at office, because at office I would be getting paid but could be chatting with my friends or drinking coffee and taking a break, but when you are freelancing then you only get paid based on how much you work, and when you are not working that is time you are not making money.
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I, as a mother, have been on maternity leave for several years now, but this in no way affects the fact that I cannot work remotely, which is what I do. Remote work has been around for me for quite some time, and, in my opinion, it is an excellent alternative to offline work. I am always with the children, doing household chores, and also have several suggestions, including on this forum. This is bad. What Max is saying is just another of his bullshit, but you shouldn’t pay attention to it, knowing his regular eccentricities. Obviously, Musk needs more rockets, which he sends to Mars.
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Because I am a person who works from home, Elon Musk views are certainly not entirely correct. Moral problems are not tied to what field he works in, but moral problems depend on the individual. I'm still curious what is meant by moral issues in this context?
Maybe he means like why are you doing something that not a lot of people can afford. Why would you choose to be working at home while other people works out in the field. Eventho it's definitely a privilege, people not working from home will do nothing for those people who do.

 It would be useless to give up a chance to work from home just to stay morally correct. But I do get his point.

Elon is rich and has a huge influence on the public. But not everything he said make sense. Even with just one tweet, he can affect the lives of someone halfway around the world. But saying working from home is immoral is idiotic. A lot of people are adopting what the Internet can do to businesses and employees.

If an employee doesn't require supervision because he is responsible enough. Why not let him do it at home? Nothing is immoral to that.
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When you say immoral I think it is related to religion but I don't think it has to do with it, though yeah that some doesn't like it because they think people can't do really well with it compared when they do it on the traditional environment.

This is not only limited to working on a job but also those who are studying or once going to a real school. For me, I think it only depends. There are some things that are done better on the field, outside, or on a real working environment than from the comfort of our own homes, while some can be done through it with no problems. In the case of Bitcoin, I think almost anything about it are online because BTC itself is also online/digital.
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Because I am a person who works from home, Elon Musk views are certainly not entirely correct. Moral problems are not tied to what field he works in, but moral problems depend on the individual. I'm still curious what is meant by moral issues in this context?
Maybe he means like why are you doing something that not a lot of people can afford. Why would you choose to be working at home while other people works out in the field. Eventho it's definitely a privilege, people not working from home will do nothing for those people who do.

 It would be useless to give up a chance to work from home just to stay morally correct. But I do get his point.
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I just watched a video talking about Laptop Class where Elon sees working from home as moral issue. Curious to know what your take on this kind of view because there are actually people who also agree with him.  And some don't of course. It could be different in the Bitcoin community, just a Yes or No poll to answer, and sure thing it will be good to share your opinion on why you chose Yes or say No.
Because I am a person who works from home, Elon Musk views are certainly not entirely correct. Moral problems are not tied to what field he works in, but moral problems depend on the individual. I'm still curious what is meant by moral issues in this context? because there are many moral problems that arise from various individuals with different jobs. So whether you are moral or not is not measured by where you work. For example we find many people with immoral attitudes who live in the market, work every day, interact with various types of people's characters which ultimately affects their mental, attitude and speech.

Not everything he said is right or wrong, and I don't deny that there are some people who work from home who have mental problems, lack of interaction with the surrounding environment, a lack of social life, can easily become stressed and frustrated.
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How is it immoral? You can wake up at 8:30 and then put on your work clothes (just the top) and then hop in to your Zoom meeting and have all of the tasks delegated to you be done, without the hassle of waking up really early and going for a commute, that's the best kind of thing for a working man, the ability to have all the extra time spent on commute get used for more productive things like time for yourself and increased hours of sleep, the only immoral thing about all of this is the way that Elon talked down on the benefits of working from home, you don't do that if you know that it's beneficial to your workers, you don't tell others that it's bad to be working from home.
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During COVID when we were working from home my company witnessed more productivity and quality work compared to those days when we used to work from homa nd company's profit margin increased since they were saving on office rental and other stuffs like transport and daily expenses to maintain and run the workplace but they have to restart work from office due to pressure rom government as government was concerned about local businesses not getting business this the tax margin was also less. I don't consider Elon Musk seriously as he is bt weird but ye everyone's entitled to their opinion andy opinions is work from home was better.
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Working from home became popular during the Covid-19 period when offices and companies had to shutdown operations while allowing their employees work from home using office tools that enable video calls for meetings and submitting of reports.

I don't think there's anything wrong in doing remote work or working from home, as long as the job description isn't of field operations or requiring one to do some lifting. For senior workers who can monitor work from anywhere in the world, working from home is a good solution to efficiency and productivity.
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I just watched a video talking about Laptop Class where Elon sees working from home as moral issue. Curious to know what your take on this kind of view because there are actually people who also agree with him.  And some don't of course. It could be different in the Bitcoin community, just a Yes or No poll to answer, and sure thing it will be good to share your opinion on why you chose Yes or say No.

I'll say Yes based on experience, during the COVID-19 at when there was the observation of social distances, my aunt who works from home with her laptop instead working from the office was being too lazy to execute her daily tasks and for that, she had been accumulating those tasks til it becomes difficult for her to wrap up before the summary days within the week and month.

She sleep most time on the laptop and she hasn't been concerned of looking good such as wearing makeup and putting on her good dresses just because there'd be no one to be impressed. Even when her boss needed her urgent need, she's usually not on the system to respond so quick as demanded.
But these are unlike when she works from the office.
This is something that would be situational because we know that there are workers which are really that too lazy specially on the moment that they are really that in the convenience of their own home
on which on the moment that you are on such condition then you would really be that confident that you can be able to finish all the pending works you do have and since you do know that you do have all the time and the moment that you could be able to do such work then it would be normal that one day you would be getting shocked on the time that due date is approach or the complying date is near. Just like on what i have said that this is something that will really be that depending because work output will really be still submitted on a particular date whether you are really that working remotely or going into offices.

If there were study or statistics shows about having that improved about efficiency and productivity then it wont be shocking that employers would really be that definitely be sticking into which
productivity has increased then it would be no brainer for that. Just like on what we do all know that technological advancement becomes even more better then works could really be done remotely.
For those people who are really that hired on having this kind of job then it would really be that good and convenient which without needing to go into office on which a bit hassle
and you would really be needing to battle on day to day traffic.  Grin

Indeed technology has been out there for those who are considered to deliver their tasks even on a remote basis at anywhere without the needed to be in the office just as said.
But some sets of lazybones has really made it seem odd that working from home encourages laziness to stick to their jobs unlike when working from the offices.
They're used to accumulating of tasks believing that they can always wrap it up even after working periods so as to meet up with the times they were unable to deliver those tasks and on the contexts they keep having false hope that they'd always finish the job before the complying day to be done with the jobs.

Remote job or working from home would real give privileges to execute other assignments through the flexibility of multitasking.
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If your Job gives you the liberty to work from home with your laptop, then you can take the advantage, if there is no distractions in the house, like kids running around or perhaps your attention can be called to do a task because you are in the house, then it is ok. Another reason for working from home is to forgo the stress of being in traffic's to go to workplace and come back home, it can be tiring. But despite all these I still prefer to work in a workplace, I believe that it is good to be in a work environment to be more effective, also to interact physically with colleagues to get better outputs or results.
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I just watched a video talking about Laptop Class where Elon sees working from home as moral issue. Curious to know what your take on this kind of view because there are actually people who also agree with him.  And some don't of course. It could be different in the Bitcoin community, just a Yes or No poll to answer, and sure thing it will be good to share your opinion on why you chose Yes or say No.

I chose "No" because it seems more morally wrong to not work at all. In my area, it's difficult to find well-paying jobs, so the internet provides an opportunity to find work outside my region. As long as the job can be completed remotely, why not take advantage of this?

If given the choice, I would prefer a hybrid work model, where I could work from home most of the time and go to the office once or twice a week for meetings or to connect with colleagues.
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Working from home isn’t wrong. As far as your company lets you do that, it is your choice. I disagree with Elon because if this is an issue, he should have just put the rule that those who work from home won’t be able to do it anymore.

What he is saying is that because I have a lovely voice, I shouldn’t sing because it would make people who don’t have a lovely voice to feel bad. That’s what it sounds like to me. It’s an opportunity, let them enjoy it while they can. All those who work at the office and the people who fix your house would choose to work from home if it was possible.
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