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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 177. (Read 624197 times)

newbie
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Hey Burnin,

Thanks a bunch for working on this -- obviously, people are into it, and it can seriously help the BTC mining community large-scale Smiley

Two concepts:


Regarding higher density boards (more chips/board):
I'll focus on the 10 Chip version for now but i will look into that.

I'm one of the perhaps 50 "group buy" purchasers, that would like to see a board capable of more than 10 chips.  I think you're wise working on the first version -- a 10 chip board, solely and initially.  But might I suggest, that you try/think of one that does 100 chips (or a major increase, like 10x or more).  Perhaps alternatively you could provide the same 10 chip board, but sell it with economy of scale (like, just put 10 boards together with 10 chips each, but sell it for 30%?? less).  I'm pretty sure 50+ members of BTCtalk would like to see something/anything like this or similar (or have some options from you), especially as/before you announce your shipping time estimates and solid prices.

Secondly, thanks for your post #102 (about "signing")... I think that'll help both you, and all the "newby's" (like myself probably!) in making the orders with you more seamless.

Best of luck, to you and us all, in this endeavor Smiley  And BTC long-term in general.
hero member
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Also, while I appreciate what you are trying to do, Who are you? No post count, late '12 join date, and no reputation make me extremely apprehensive sending you 100's of BTC worth of hardware.
legendary
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SaluS - (SLS)
I have about 300 chips on order and would love to have the option of 20-30 chip modules.
full member
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Are you planning to develope a real USB connection or only a USB 2 Serial connection?
And what for a microcontroller do you wanna use on the boards?

And do you publish the sources, PCB layouts after you ship your boards or Avalon ships the Asics?
newbie
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Is there an estimate on size of these devices?

If I ordered 100 chips to be prepared by burnin am I understanding correctly that I would be receiving 10 boards which are stackable?

Any bulk discount for ordering ~10 boards?

Do you foresee any problems shipping to the United States? I know Avalons had problems when shipped with PSUs so I assume this won't be a factor.
hero member
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I ordered 30 chips too, can't wait for you to open orders
full member
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Could you tell me when pcb's will be ready for shipping? Id like to order few bare pcbs and mount everything my self. I have a few pice SMT/BGA rework rig that will handle it with ease. Also are you going to provide schematics for your pcb?
They'll be ready 1-2 Weeks prior to expected Chip delivery.
Schematics/BOM will be provided.


Thanks for an answer. One more question.. will you start shipping bare boards before chips will be delivered? I'd like to get the pcb before chips will be delivered so I can prepare my rework rig.

Many thanks.
member
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I Ordered 30 chips and would like to have you assemble them.  Looking forward to when I can order them.
hero member
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Forgot to mention I use an online wallet so the process is a tiny different.

Just awaiting your email addy burnin.
legendary
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And more good news for people who participated in ragingazn628's group yuy.
I'm in contact with him to establish a similar direct shipping scheme.


That is great! 1 bitcent donated to you Wink
sr. member
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ALTCOM Ab9upXvD7ChnJxDRZgMmwNNEf1ftCGWrsE
Could you tell me when pcb's will be ready for shipping? Id like to order few bare pcbs and mount everything my self. I have a few pice SMT/BGA rework rig that will handle it with ease. Also are you going to provide schematics for your pcb?
They'll be ready 1-2 Weeks prior to expected Chip delivery.
Schematics/BOM will be provided.


Since a lot of you are wondering how this whole signed message thing will work.
This is how to do it with the Bitcoin-QT Client:
#Step1: click sign message


#Step2: choose the originating address


#Step3 Paste or type the message stating you want your chips assembled by me


#Step4 press sign message


#Step5
Include the output like this in the order email to me (not open yet)
Code:
Signing address:
18tWnLb3y2E6B9utxDZE4bmu8DasSNBnqX
-----cut below-----
Hi Zefir,

i want that my all of my Chips ordered from you are send to Burnin for assembly into Mining boards.
Originating address: 18tWnLb3y2E6B9utxDZE4bmu8DasSNBnqX

signed

-----uncut above-----
Signature: H15yzUi6PGtX+GUFT0jb/epPHLD0epfinXlskrxpPPlqJOPeg70BSwIdqMf/rwDiTl0fGWp7NQ51TsdK/PoCXg0=


And more good news for people who participated in ragingazn628's group buy.
I'm in contact with him to establish a similar direct shipping scheme.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500

How do you send a signed message with the BTC-address we paid Zefir with if the payment has already been sent?

bitcoind signmessage "your message"

It'll output a big long number. To verify it, anyone can then do:

bitcoind verifymessage "your message"

Massive thanks.  Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1193

How do you send a signed message with the BTC-address we paid Zefir with if the payment has already been sent?

bitcoind signmessage "your message"

It'll output a big long number. To verify it, anyone can then do:

bitcoind verifymessage "your message"
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
So I just read all thread and understand almost everything, just have a few questions that needs confirming.

1. I don't make an order until beginning of may, when exact price will be known, yes?
2. Can I pay with bank transfer in EUR, or just BTC?
3. What does all that signing messages mean? I have for chips using my Blockchain address, do I have to pay for PCBs with the same address and include a message with the payment, or is it something else?


3. I'm also curious about this signing messages to addresses.  I understand public/private key pgp encryption, so are we just talking about sending encrypted messages? 

From what I understand, if you ordered the chips from Zefir, you will have to send Burnin a signed message with the btc-address you paid Zefir with, so they both know that the owner of the chips (the owner of the address the chips were paid with) wants the chips to go from Zefir to Burnin

How do you send a signed message with the BTC-address we paid Zefir with if the payment has already been sent?
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
So I just read all thread and understand almost everything, just have a few questions that needs confirming.

1. I don't make an order until beginning of may, when exact price will be known, yes?
2. Can I pay with bank transfer in EUR, or just BTC?
3. What does all that signing messages mean? I have for chips using my Blockchain address, do I have to pay for PCBs with the same address and include a message with the payment, or is it something else?


3. I'm also curious about this signing messages to addresses.  I understand public/private key pgp encryption, so are we just talking about sending encrypted messages? 

From what I understand, if you ordered the chips from Zefir, you will have to send Burnin a signed message with the btc-address you paid Zefir with, so they both know that the owner of the chips (the owner of the address the chips were paid with) wants the chips to go from Zefir to Burnin
full member
Activity: 149
Merit: 100
So I just read all thread and understand almost everything, just have a few questions that needs confirming.

1. I don't make an order until beginning of may, when exact price will be known, yes?
2. Can I pay with bank transfer in EUR, or just BTC?
3. What does all that signing messages mean? I have for chips using my Blockchain address, do I have to pay for PCBs with the same address and include a message with the payment, or is it something else?


3. I'm also curious about this signing messages to addresses.  I understand public/private key pgp encryption, so are we just talking about sending encrypted messages? 
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
So I just read all thread and understand almost everything, just have a few questions that needs confirming.

1. I don't make an order until beginning of may, when exact price will be known, yes?
2. Can I pay with bank transfer in EUR, or just BTC?
3. What does all that signing messages mean? I have for chips using my Blockchain address, do I have to pay for PCBs with the same address and include a message with the payment, or is it something else?
legendary
Activity: 1242
Merit: 1020
No surrender, no retreat, no regret.
Burnin, is it possible for DIY'ers to buy the parts from you? You save time, people save money.

I was thinking of about the same project, though with Ethernet interface and some inexpensive embedded ARM or MIPS HW driven by Linux, but I'm unable to allocate enough time for this.
legendary
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Merit: 1011
I'd personally prefer the raw boards+heatsinks, but no mounting hardware or fans.

+1
full member
Activity: 155
Merit: 100
I'm in for 250 chips, may as well test the waters Smiley  Great job getting this off the ground, I truly hope you pull it off for both my, and the entire network's sake!

One quick question:
Quote
2. Bare bones assembled PCB for the DIY folks

Does that include mounted heatsinks, or no?  I'd personally prefer the raw boards+heatsinks, but no mounting hardware or fans.

Can't wait for this to be ready!

Edit: Also, how are you handling DOA chips?  Even tested chips will have at least a small percentage of bad ones, especially after going through the thermal stresses of soldering to the PCB.  Will these simply be taken out of your margin?
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