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BigBoozie

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Putin just said, that there will go 10 trillions rubles into russian army industry, he wants to have best guns on planet, he said, that technology they want to have for new generation of russian guns, will be unmatched and they gonn ause only the most modern stuff there is.

I dont think that he wants war, he always tries to do things withou brute force (no matter how western media demonize him), but it is clear, that he wants to be invincible.

he is strongly against NWO, he even say it often, that there are people - he called them global elites, that want to have unipolar world, with one government, and he thinks, that it is not right. he always says, that there have to be two parties, to control themselves.

he is something like super hero for conspiracy theorists

Fray

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Quote from: u9y42 on August 15, 2014, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: Fray on August 15, 2014, 01:19:19 AM

Quote from: u9y42 on August 14, 2014, 09:11:42 PM

Well, it only needs to happen once... Tongue

But yes, this seems more like saber rattling, than anything else - it's always useful to have a scary "enemy" you can point to, after all.

I would argue that nuclear weapons/bombs have actually decreased instances of war. With nuclear bombs, countries are not going to want to go to war with other countries that have nuclear weapons as they are afraid that that the nukes would be used on them.

See how that since WW2 no two countries that both have nuclear weapons have gone to war with each other.

That might be how it turned out, but I'd say that not only are we not out of the woods yet, but also that there were several times in which it was sheer luck a nuclear war didn't start - the Cuban missile crisis comes to mind.

But there is something else you have to consider: even if not directly, these nations didn't stop fighting amongst themselves - they instead turned to proxy wars and other indirect means (though arguably no less significant for those caught up in them).

You are correct to say that we have had several close calls of nuclear war breaking out, however I doubt that either country likely has the balls to be the first to attack the other because of the probably consequences. I think most countries would be willing to get all the way to the brink of war, but would likely not want to cross the threshold of attacking another country with nukes.

Proxy wars are generally not as damaging to society and the world as a whole when compared to larger conflicts. Fighting is generally much more localized and done in places that are much less developed.

u9y42

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Quote from: Fray on August 15, 2014, 01:19:19 AM

Quote from: u9y42 on August 14, 2014, 09:11:42 PM

Well, it only needs to happen once... Tongue

But yes, this seems more like saber rattling, than anything else - it's always useful to have a scary "enemy" you can point to, after all.

I would argue that nuclear weapons/bombs have actually decreased instances of war. With nuclear bombs, countries are not going to want to go to war with other countries that have nuclear weapons as they are afraid that that the nukes would be used on them.

See how that since WW2 no two countries that both have nuclear weapons have gone to war with each other.

That might be how it turned out, but I'd say that not only are we not out of the woods yet, but also that there were several times in which it was sheer luck a nuclear war didn't start - the Cuban missile crisis comes to mind.

But there is something else you have to consider: even if not directly, these nations didn't stop fighting amongst themselves - they instead turned to proxy wars and other indirect means (though arguably no less significant for those caught up in them).

pajrinn

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I hope this news is hoax Sad

world peace

like katrina africa indonesia, and now palestine they need us

kuusj98

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I <3 VW Beetles

Lel, Mr. Putin thinks he can handle every-fucking-situation he can imagine would happen.
Fact is, is that Russia is very big, and has very much material left from USSR era, we have not that much material, but we have much more modern stuff tho.

I don't know.

egghead123

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They really should hug it all out.Might I suggest a bear hug for Mr Putin?Can we not all just be friends??We dont need to sing Kumbaya though

Fray

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Quote from: u9y42 on August 14, 2014, 09:11:42 PM

Quote from: Matze on August 14, 2014, 06:25:40 PM

Theres always a talk about the end of the world and use of nuclear weapons but it never happens.

Well, it only needs to happen once... Tongue

But yes, this seems more like saber rattling, than anything else - it's always useful to have a scary "enemy" you can point to, after all.

I would argue that nuclear weapons/bombs have actually decreased instances of war. With nuclear bombs, countries are not going to want to go to war with other countries that have nuclear weapons as they are afraid that that the nukes would be used on them.

See how that since WW2 no two countries that both have nuclear weapons have gone to war with each other.

hodap

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Only the smaller nations will suffer on the suppose grand chess game.

There won't be direct confrontation as both sides know the cost will be high.

u9y42

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Quote from: Matze on August 14, 2014, 06:25:40 PM

Theres always a talk about the end of the world and use of nuclear weapons but it never happens.

Well, it only needs to happen once... Tongue

But yes, this seems more like saber rattling, than anything else - it's always useful to have a scary "enemy" you can point to, after all.

Matze

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I am not pro Russian but you would think people on this forum would consider both sides and not be so biased.

TaunSew

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Minutes ago there have been updates on twitter that 20 Russian IFVs are in Ukraine and are heading towards the conflict zone, according to business insider.

Not enough for an invasion - probably just some Cuban-styled standoff to see if the Ukrainians will shoot.

Matze

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Theres always a talk about the end of the world and use of nuclear weapons but it never happens.

Pagan

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The Telegraph - Russian armoured vehicles and military trucks cross border into Ukraine

A column of armoured vehicles and military trucks crossed the border from Russia into Ukraine on Thursday night, in the first confirmed sighting of such an incident by Western journalists.

[...] The convoy, which included at least 23 vehicles, appeared to be waiting until sunset near a refugee camp just outside Donetsk, before moving towards the crossing without turning off headlights or making any other attempt to conceal itself.

[...] While the force did not seem to be a substantial invasion force, it confirms that military supplies are moving across the border. While the APCs carried no visible markings the fuel tankers and soft-skinned trucks in the convoy bore black Russian military number plates.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11035401/Russian-armoured-vehicles-and-military-trucks-cross-border-into-Ukraine.html

Pagan

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Putin hinted about new developments in the field of nuclear deterrent

http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/32127941/putin-v-krymu-budut-otdelnye-vooruzhennye-sily

Pagan

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Food import ban means Russia is fully at war with the West

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/masha-gessen-food-import-ban-means-russia-is-at-war-with-the-west/2014/08/12/7209d230-209e-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

State Duma deputy asked the head of Ministry of Emergency Situations urgent check all bomb shelter in Russia and bring them on high alert

http://echo.msk.ru/news/1379166-echo.html

Pagan

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Next level of stupidity: Russia now claims "near-abroad" countries have been printed false voting bulletins for the September 14 governor and municipal elections. As the bulletin's "found" are in the St. Petersburg and Pskov areas, it is clear the blame will be put on the Baltic states.
We are in for the next round.

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/744780

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