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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on March 09, 2023, 05:29:02 PM

Most of us would know a scripted match, mostly if we get to learn this development has come in play.
I don't think the pleasure from gambling would differ as same heightened scenario of emotions would surge still. The bet would be same but I doubt it would have good odds and outcome.
The WWE is even more real right now even if we know some scenes are acted, but people hardly bet there but boxing. I stand to be corrected.
I don't mind betting just for the fun or taste of how fun it would be, but for good continuous betting, I doubt, unless the outcome and bonuses is good pay.

Well right, and it has raised several ethical concerns, particularly if it involves betting with real money. Even if the outcome of the match is not leaked to the public, it is still unfair and potentially exploitative for the betting company to profit from a predetermined outcome. I think WWE already damaged its reputation because even I don't wanna like to see their match seems scripted to me --it could potentially damage its reputation and credibility as a legitimate sports entertainment company. Fans who are aware that matches are scripted may feel that their trust has been betrayed, and the company's credibility may suffer because, for me, betting should be based on fair and unbiased competition, and not on predetermined outcomes.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 09, 2023, 11:08:34 AM

Everything about WWE is scripted since I know about them, the matches look fake to me at times and it is not what I can go for. I will prefer to for boxing instead which is real. I can never bet on wresting like WWE.

For the real life matches in sport, we have so many options that we can just go for instead of the wrestling that is only meant for entertainment, not for betting for me when I have real life ones that can even take away my whole day if I want it to be like that.

If they allow this they will allow and legalize game-fixing because it's scripted only in WWE wrestling where a midget and an old man can win against muscular and big wrestlers and the obvious is not guaranteed to win, you cannot accuse them of game fixing because it really is game fixing.
WWE promotes itself as an entertainment portal because you cannot see cuts, blood, and broken bones here because the fighters are not really hurting themselves and only act like they are hurt, not something you will put your money in.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

I'm a big fan of Dwayn Johnson, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, Roman reigns and Triple-H, because despite the fact that WWE is said to be scripted, these are the only guys whose fight I always enjoy, as they have always got this energy they put into each fight quite different from others. So in regards to the question on ground, I will say it will be unfair to integrate a scripted game on a casino, as you never can tell when such can be manipulated in favour of there stake.
So in general, if I'm opportune to see a casino who offers such services, then the best option should be the stake an amount you can always afford to lose.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/wwe-wants-to-launch-gambling-on-scripted-fights-in-colorado-michigan/

There are risks involved because even if the stronger has an edge over his opponents you can't be sure of the outcome because WWE is an entertainment portal its not the outcome but the storyline that viewers will enjoy, defending on the odds they may have two storylines to play to make sure the house wins, so not I don't support it because the obvious result will not materialize, this is not different to game fixing and they can get away with it.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on March 09, 2023, 05:29:02 PM

The bet would be same

I don't that betting on a scripted script would be the same feeling to betting on a real outcome based on real performance. I think it would be difficult to have a real wrestling match on a bet and the only way to get to that assumption is the scripted form so it won't have same appeal.

Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on March 09, 2023, 05:29:02 PM

but I doubt it would have good odds and outcome.

On the contrary, I think it will have good odds to spice people up in betting on what is not real, that high odds will cause more fans is not to be argued because gamblers seem to glue to high odds game.

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It is inevitable that results might be leaked especially those that are working for them. They can't just guarantee that even if there will be FEDs involve, they just can't help if money is involved with it.

The fact that it is scripted and promising that they won't leak the result is already vague. That's an odd promise to be said as there's something that would be pursued once it's allowed.

It's easy money for them and the management will surely take advantage of it. Well, they might just go to Vegas and do the fights there. Tongue

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Quote from: uneng on March 09, 2023, 12:06:35 PM

It's funny they say the fight is scripted, but the results are kept in secret, what isn't true at all, since results aren't a secret for the person who scripted the fight and can leak the informations to anyone he wants, besides the actors involved and so on. Wink

For me it looks a money making method for insiders of the industry and not gambling at all. The probabilities of cheating by the people on the top of the pyramid is just too high.

I definitely agree with you. To be honest, I find it crazy that people tend to gamble on a platform which is known for being scripted in the first place. With this in mind, personally, I find it more difficult to bet on this kind of platform since the result may be more-or-less be unpredictable.

If that were the case, I would try to bet on a fight that is scripted but I will never wager an amount that is considerably high. I might try my luck just to see if the information that got leaked is genuine, but more than that, I would just try it to experience it.

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Hehe....is this supposed to be some kinda joke or what?? Could matches be bet by the masses even when they've been told that it's definitely conveyed upon a written script? Hmmm, well it depends on the informations they've got though; maybe if they've got someone in there that would possibly feed them with weekly predicted options. Bettors would definitely have a slimmer chances of winning without some good Nuggets.
I knew since a long time that matches under WWE are normally scripted and I'm not getting any surprised....with 'em fake punches, slides and stunts....it didn't even look real to me anyways.

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Most of us would know a scripted match, mostly if we get to learn this development has come in play.
I don't think the pleasure from gambling would differ as same heightened scenario of emotions would surge still. The bet would be same but I doubt it would have good odds and outcome.
The WWE is even more real right now even if we know some scenes are acted, but people hardly bet there but boxing. I stand to be corrected.
I don't mind betting just for the fun or taste of how fun it would be, but for good continuous betting, I doubt, unless the outcome and bonuses is good pay.

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Quote from: slapper on March 09, 2023, 02:47:42 PM

And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury?

I think this won't even be a big problem for the programmers to wrap their heads over because such injuries won't be severe or gory and life threatening. Such things as injuries do occur in nolly wood and other film making countries and the actors and actresses still come out of such injuries to carry on with the shooting. If WWE is to be scripted, it is just being made public because large number of people believe what happens there doesn't go beyond entertainment.

It should be no surprise that many of those fights are scripted and they always know the outcome before us and. For those gamblers that think they can easily make quick money from there, the problem is you can not beat the house. I would never bother myself betting on this kind of game because there is no assurance that the fight is not going to be leaked to some individuals that would take quick advantage of it and make money from us that are ignorant about the out of the bet. I will prefer betting on something else than the WWE.

With all of those videos flying around the net or streaming sites about those fake actions and scripted fight then it is no surprise that it is really that too obvious.There's no way for someone
who would really be interested on making out bets on something which we know that it is already that staged.Im not aware if there are really that bookies who do offer lines
for this or not, since im not really that looking into this corner ever since. For those who are really that a die hard fan then it is really that no surprising
that they would really be following.

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What will WWE offer as a betting option for those who want to bet on their entertaining scripted wrestling? Do they plan to include additional betting possibilities, such as disqualification and other outcomes, or is it just to predict a match's outcome(win or lose)? I'm not sure how they plan to manage everything. They should refrain from incorporating betting into their scripted wrestling since many viewers would find it amusing to bet on the WWE platform.

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If I qould be aware of who will be the winner, then that would be free money. The question is why? If I would be allowed to know who would be the winner, what is my assurance that others won't? 'coz if all bettors would know for sure no one would win, the gambling house won't allow that. Also, it is hard to trust hearsays so I guess it would still be better to just play the game. Those people who would be introducing fixed matchws has a tendency to sell you out, ofcourse they need a counterpart bettor in order for them to win. Unless there's this exclusivity with players to know the outcome and for some reason you are included on that group.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 09, 2023, 03:15:45 PM

Quote from: slapper on March 09, 2023, 02:47:42 PM

And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury?

I think this won't even be a big problem for the programmers to wrap their heads over because such injuries won't be severe or gory and life threatening. Such things as injuries do occur in nolly wood and other film making countries and the actors and actresses still come out of such injuries to carry on with the shooting. If WWE is to be scripted, it is just being made public because large number of people believe what happens there doesn't go beyond entertainment.

It should be no surprise that many of those fights are scripted and they always know the outcome before us and. For those gamblers that think they can easily make quick money from there, the problem is you can not beat the house. I would never bother myself betting on this kind of game because there is no assurance that the fight is not going to be leaked to some individuals that would take quick advantage of it and make money from us that are ignorant about the out of the bet. I will prefer betting on something else than the WWE.

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Quote from: blockman on March 09, 2023, 03:33:00 PM

I like WWE but I don't like to bet on its matches because they're all scripted. That's why it's made for entertainment and that's why even during my childhood it made me believe that everything there is real. But not until I become grown up and understand the meaning of WWE.
It is no sense to me to bet on matches that even if it is scripted, I still don't know who's going to win on it. And that's why you rarely see matches on bookies with it because even if it's a sport, it's also entertainment that's attached to it, it's not a competitive sport, unlike the others.

Many thought WWE is a real one not until we saw a lot of news about it being a scripted movie just for the purpose of entertainment. Well, its hard to tell if you have the right source so its risky to bet and honestly, WWE didn’t entertain me anymore since the exit of my childhood star like The Undertaker. If you are going to bet on this, make sure that you are ready for the risk.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 09, 2023, 11:01:04 AM

Would you bet on a fight that is scripted even with the promise that the outcome will not be leaked to the public before the match ends? What is the ethical consideration is this case? Well this is the new information regarding the WWE about to explore this new type of betting option. You can read a part of the news quoted below and make your comments.

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WWE Keen to Explore Betting on Scripted Fights as an Option
But if the states were to clear this type of betting, that would only raise integrity concerns observers believe, as the outcomes of fights would be known and the possibility of a leak – high. WWE is reportedly working with Ernst & Young, an accountancy firm, to prove that the results of such fights would not be known to the public beforehand nor that they would leak out of the organizaiton.

Ernst & Young has previously advocated for the legalization of Academy Awards betting, and worked to keep the results a secret, proving that it’s possible to know an outcome beforehand and still have a fair betting market on the activity. WWE is of a similar mind, as the Oscars are already supported as betting markets in some places in the country, so why would sportsbooks hesitate to offer WWE fights, which are a form of entertainment for the most part rather than a pure athletic contest?

No official comment has been made by WWE officials to further elaborate on the situation, but Colorado has already denied the rumors. The Colorado Division of Gaming spoke to CNBC and briefly said that it had no intention of allowing betting on WWE matches as of right now. Legalizing WWE fights as viable betting events is not a stretch, however.

It is a bit of a strange concept, it's essentially betting on a rigged match and I don't understand how any regulator would allow it. Not only that, I don't know of any betting service that would be interested in listing these types of bets either, because they can so easily be abused by the WWE. The only people who stand to benefit from this are the organizers of the WWE and it's a captive market, frankly it's a disgrace to the word "sport" if it's allowed. I imagine that they are looking to keep everything "in-house" so you'll only be allowed to bet within the confines of a WWE platform, which makes a perverse incentive for the company to sway the match depending on what bet is looking more profitable at the outset of the fight.

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WWE is a branch or a part of Hollywood, at I didn't believe that WWE is scripted like Hollywood movies until I came to this forum and saw the discussion. Concerning betting on the scripted game like WWE, Even drama which the imitation of human action s paid by people or audience to watch and likewise WWE. That means people that do not know that WWE is scripted still make a bet on it. Mostly the third world countries, people bet on WWE. I have done it before but I have known it so I will not do it again.

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I like WWE but I don't like to bet on its matches because they're all scripted. That's why it's made for entertainment and that's why even during my childhood it made me believe that everything there is real. But not until I become grown up and understand the meaning of WWE.
It is no sense to me to bet on matches that even if it is scripted, I still don't know who's going to win on it. And that's why you rarely see matches on bookies with it because even if it's a sport, it's also entertainment that's attached to it, it's not a competitive sport, unlike the others.

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For hardcore fans of WWE, then maybe they will have to think about betting in this so called "fights" even if it is scripted. But for pure fans of any combat sports, I don't know, maybe majority of them are not going to bet on it as we all know that this is just like for entertainment and I don't think we can call it sports because of that.

So for me, I wouldn't put my money on the line, whatever they are going to said about the outcome being not leak by some body.

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A fight scripted such as one in WWE doesn't necessarily mean a fixed match. You have to remember that as a viewer, you have no idea who's gonna win after the match despite fuilly-knowing that the whole fight was staged and every move they made in the match were choreographed. In a case like that I could see myself betting because even though the whole fight was fabricated, the match isn't really as predictable as a fixed match per se so the edge of winning a game you have no expectations of who's winning is still there. WWE, local luchador matches, I've made bets on these sports back then, some just friendly bets like a 6-pack beer or a pack of cigs but sometimes a little on the baller side.

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Quote from: slapper on March 09, 2023, 02:47:42 PM

And then what? Who will be the first wrestler to fake an injury?

I think this won't even be a big problem for the programmers to wrap their heads over because such injuries won't be severe or gory and life threatening. Such things as injuries do occur in nolly wood and other film making countries and the actors and actresses still come out of such injuries to carry on with the shooting. If WWE is to be scripted, it is just being made public because large number of people believe what happens there doesn't go beyond entertainment.

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