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Topic: Would you play an 8 Pool game with BTC as game credit/betting? - page 3. (Read 2572 times)

hero member
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I would surely play if such game exist (for PC users), as long as it will be fair and user vs user only, so skills are required and also a place in which few could bet base on each users win ratio, base on a leading board with different odds.

That is Awesome! a playing on player to player and a betting at the same time it is like an RPG base and gambling base game in one, OP needs to finish this in time and I thing it will be a great success in both pool and bitcoin lovers out there!   
legendary
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I would surely play if such game exist (for PC users), as long as it will be fair and user vs user only, so skills are required and also a place in which few could bet base on each users win ratio, base on a leading board with different odds.
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it is a very nice idea, skill based game for btc would be awesome, maybe even tick tack toe, but bots would be a huge problem on game like 8 ball pool, would be really unfair to play against them because they would win
hero member
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It will be a great idea of playing 8 Poll game that too with Bitcoin this will make more progress for Bitcoin as their are some players who are not playing gambling but are very interested in like this games, 8 Pool game , Chess and so more.

Yup and it is new for other people and I think skill base game is great other than pure luck base in this way many people will hook up in this kind of game a little betting part for two player could make the game more interesting and it will be a gambling too but more on a skill related kind of gambling.
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I was thinking why a game where you can play based on skills doesn't exist yet, similar to 8 Ball Pool but with BTC (currently available at iTunes and Play stores). What do you guys think? Would you play a game of skill and bet on it? I'm not sure why games didn't catch up with BTC, many could become pro gamers, just as there are pro poker players.

This is a great idea Player VS Player game with BTC Wagered. so your site will server as an escrow to the pot and
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It will be a great idea of playing 8 Poll game that too with Bitcoin this will make more progress for Bitcoin as their are some players who are not playing gambling but are very interested in like this games, 8 Pool game , Chess and so more.
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Yes I think so. I like 8 ball pool game. So why not. It is fun to do I think and maybe more people will use Bitcoin and than more people will play 8 ball too.
That will be also good if you can use it for 8 ball pool. I will play it if it is going to happen, but you never know.
hero member
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this is would be great idea if any games such 8 Ball Pool adopt bitcoin but i so doubt this is would occur because these games less popular than regular games on gambling site such dice, blackjack, or poker

Yup! it is a great Idea but I think that pool isn't a necessarily fit or will do a profit like other bitcoin gambling sites, I don't see any gambling strategy that can be use using 8 ball pool! so It will not be that popular. 
legendary
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I'm not reducing it to just a pool game, it can be any video game or similar. Perhaps with a strong registration you can open an account and be responsible if you get caught up cheating?

I dont like the strong registration idea its too costly and old world style we have to think smarter than that.  I do like the idea of any game you want to play you can have the ability to bet, there are a few options as regards cheating like 1 would be an ebay feedback style profile.  So as a player you can set it so you only play vs people of a certain feedback score just like on ebay where you can set it to only sell to a person with certain scores.  All this needs some centralization unfortunately but its a start.
legendary
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this is would be great idea if any games such 8 Ball Pool adopt bitcoin but i so doubt this is would occur because these games less popular than regular games on gambling site such dice, blackjack, or poker
hero member
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I was thinking why a game where you can play based on skills doesn't exist yet, similar to 8 Ball Pool but with BTC (currently available at iTunes and Play stores). What do you guys think? Would you play a game of skill and bet on it? I'm not sure why games didn't catch up with BTC, many could become pro gamers, just as there are pro poker players.

Maybe that is a great Idea, but that really isn't gambling but actually like a tournament kind of game and of you involve bitcoin in it many might play it once they get a hold on some experience and know a little tricks in pool.
legendary
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Would you play an 8 Pool game with BTC as game credit/betting?

As others have said in previous posts - there are too many ways for people to cheat. 8 Ball Pool has some scum bags with millions of coins & ridiculous win percentages, that to me screams cheating. A simple search on youtube shows people how to cheat in all kinds of different ways.

So no I wouldn't play 8 Ball Pool as game credit/betting especially when it's real money/bitcoin involved.
legendary
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I was thinking why a game where you can play based on skills doesn't exist yet, similar to 8 Ball Pool but with BTC (currently available at iTunes and Play stores). What do you guys think? Would you play a game of skill and bet on it? I'm not sure why games didn't catch up with BTC, many could become pro gamers, just as there are pro poker players.

It seems like a great ideia. The only problem I see right now, and probably the reason why we don't see a boon in these type of games, is the bot problem. How hard it would be to create a bot that would always perform optimal play, and win vs a human?
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I see, is there not a way to combat the bots then? Why Poker can get away then? I know it's not exclusively based on skill since there's plenty of luck involved, but still.

Maybe if the game is played in a fixed location, but that would likely reduce its potential (it would only be possible in countries/cities where Bitcoin is already established, with a good user-base at the same time interested in gaming -and, in that specific game-). The other option (IMO) would be running bots on the server and check if the movements of one player look suspicious, but besides the possible false positives, you could easily interrupt your bot every then and now to perform a "non-perfect" move.

What about some sort of captcha system at every turn? I'm just brainstorming here, I know if a script/bot is developed it can bypass any sort of security but maybe there's still a way to avoid it.

There are ways to avoid captchas, according to one of the Rollin mods captcha typer's work is used by evil bots to abuse faucets. Either way, you can program the bot to prompt for input every time a captcha needs to be solved, or manually run the bot once you solve the captcha (specially if you are scamming a good amount of money, and it becomes your job).

I'm not reducing it to just a pool game, it can be any video game or similar. Perhaps with a strong registration you can open an account and be responsible if you get caught up cheating?

Like verifying your identity? That would scare many people away, specially Bitcoin users. Anyway, how would that help? Master-p's identity is (supposed to be) known, yet he easily vanished. Unless we are talking about thousands of Dollars, it would not be worth suing (it would also depend on the views your country has on Bitcoin). How would you control identity theft?, you can (somewhat) easily impersonate someone else (a copy of your ID is required for many things; a lot of people have access to your ID, unless you had lived completely isolated for years).

So, regarding the question on the topic: No, I would not bet in such a game.
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Very true. It is a very serious problem and most of all in the game-based skills. I am also very unhappy and doesn't like if the players use cheat or bot in game-based skills. And I hope that if this can be played in BTC hope there's a great feature to prevent the occurrence of fraud.
hero member
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I see, is there not a way to combat the bots then? Why Poker can get away then? I know it's not exclusively based on skill since there's plenty of luck involved, but still.

Sadly there is no way of fighting bots and Poker is not entirely skilled based, there's an element of luck involved and there's also something which humans seem to do better than computer programs, which is called bluffing, this is why Poker bots mostly lose in front of human players.

Pool/Chess/video-games on the other other hand are completely skilled based, no luck/bluffing required, which is why they're not good for gambling because even the best of the players have trouble defeating engines.
legendary
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A few years ago I played the 8 ball pool game on yahoo I believe it was. After some time getiing up a bit in the ranks I started noticing players making a lot of insane shots, no everyone but about 1 in 10 players were insane. I got to looking around and found some videos of a cheat they were using that showed the exact angle and velocity to hit a certain shot, which was the reason for all the crazy shots. The way no money on the line and there were still people cheating. I don't think a game like this would work very well, I think cheaters would take over and just kill the whole game.

That's a good story, well for me it's clear now why a game like this doesn't exists but I only named it as an example, is there any other game based on skills that can be used? Perhaps even a more complex one like FPS, racing games, etc. I guess there's no way to bypass a script or bot doing its thing.
hero member
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I was thinking why a game where you can play based on skills doesn't exist yet, similar to 8 Ball Pool but with BTC (currently available at iTunes and Play stores). What do you guys think? Would you play a game of skill and bet on it? I'm not sure why games didn't catch up with BTC, many could become pro gamers, just as there are pro poker players.
Probably would be a great idea since it is very simple to play a (online) pool game. It is easier than said because it's like a pain in the ass to make bot-proof skill-based game.

I guess as it doesn't exists it can't be done. But if you take my example of an exact replica of 8 Pool Game with BTC and a similar amount of players it will be a gold mine! The app or site could charge a fee for entering the tournaments or per game depending on the option selected. There would still be store items as in app purchases but all done via BTC.
I never said that it can't be done. An exact replica of 8 Ball Pool is probably the worst idea, IMO. There is like shit ton of cheat/hack for that game. (ex. unlimited guideline hack) I saw a friend of mine use this cheat/hack, lol.

A few years ago I played the 8 ball pool game on yahoo I believe it was. After some time getiing up a bit in the ranks I started noticing players making a lot of insane shots, no everyone but about 1 in 10 players were insane. I got to looking around and found some videos of a cheat they were using that showed the exact angle and velocity to hit a certain shot, which was the reason for all the crazy shots. The way no money on the line and there were still people cheating. I don't think a game like this would work very well, I think cheaters would take over and just kill the whole game.
legendary
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I was thinking why a game where you can play based on skills doesn't exist yet, similar to 8 Ball Pool but with BTC (currently available at iTunes and Play stores). What do you guys think? Would you play a game of skill and bet on it? I'm not sure why games didn't catch up with BTC, many could become pro gamers, just as there are pro poker players.
Probably would be a great idea since it is very simple to play a (online) pool game. It is easier than said because it's like a pain in the ass to make bot-proof skill-based game.

I guess as it doesn't exists it can't be done. But if you take my example of an exact replica of 8 Pool Game with BTC and a similar amount of players it will be a gold mine! The app or site could charge a fee for entering the tournaments or per game depending on the option selected. There would still be store items as in app purchases but all done via BTC.
I never said that it can't be done. An exact replica of 8 Ball Pool is probably the worst idea, IMO. There is like shit ton of cheat/hack for that game. (ex. unlimited guideline hack) I saw a friend of mine use this cheat/hack, lol.

Alright it was just an example since I've used to play that game, do you have any other ideas in mind that may work? It could be anything basically since many games are based on pure skill. But now I can see how security can be a problem. It will never happer soon but I was envisioning a Twitch like platform where all gamers can bet against each other on different games.
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I was thinking why a game where you can play based on skills doesn't exist yet, similar to 8 Ball Pool but with BTC (currently available at iTunes and Play stores). What do you guys think? Would you play a game of skill and bet on it? I'm not sure why games didn't catch up with BTC, many could become pro gamers, just as there are pro poker players.
Probably would be a great idea since it is very simple to play a (online) pool game. It is easier than said because it's like a pain in the ass to make bot-proof skill-based game.

I guess as it doesn't exists it can't be done. But if you take my example of an exact replica of 8 Pool Game with BTC and a similar amount of players it will be a gold mine! The app or site could charge a fee for entering the tournaments or per game depending on the option selected. There would still be store items as in app purchases but all done via BTC.
I never said that it can't be done. An exact replica of 8 Ball Pool is probably the worst idea, IMO. There is like shit ton of cheat/hack for that game. (ex. unlimited guideline hack) I saw a friend of mine use this cheat/hack, lol.
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