Would you use a VPN on a casino, even if it is not allowed in their ToS? - page 12.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

If ToS is clearly not allowed, then it's better to comply with choosing another casino that allows VPN use because now there are many online casinos to choose from, just be careful enough not to choose a bad casino, some casinos still allow its use, or look for an alternative casino that has a mirror site so I don't need a VPN at all to access it.
Once I experienced something unpleasant due to using a VPN, the casino asked me to do KYC to prove there was no multi-account and was lucky to get through it because the money held up was a value that I couldn't afford to lose so I had no other choice but to do what the casino ordered.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

I wouldn't, because I care for my account and the money I have deposited there. It would be a dumb idea to use VPN knowing it's against the rules of the platform, since it will end in account freezed and funds confiscated without any chances of recovering it, since it was stated on their terms and I, as an user, agreed with them when signing up on the website.

When travelling to a country where your favorite platform isn't allowed, you should go for an alternative one, or wait until coming back home to play again there. And in case you live in a country where you can't access a casino you think it's amazing, I fear there is no other alternative, besides finding something else which is allows your region to join in. With so many virtual casinos nowadays, I think it's not a big issue...

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

The only risk is when a casino does not allow it but you should be careful cause casinos terms can change from allowing the use of VPN to prohibiting their users from using it

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Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

All concerns about the use of VPN when traveling should be on record with support if you failed to do this, you have no defense to present when they disable your account.

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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Definitely not, I have seen a huge amount of money coming from players and they cannot withdraw it because of a violation of the use of a VPN, if they do not allow it, refrain from using a VPN, and control yourself so you can protect your account.

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Quote from: demonica on June 02, 2023, 08:28:44 AM

No. First, the use of online casino isn't illegal here in my country so I don't need to use VPN just to play. But if I'm in a situation you mentioned where I travel in a country that doesn't allow online gambling, then I won't gamble for the mean time while I'm in that country. I would be only there in that country for a short period of time so I can wait till I can go back home. Also my biggest worry is, it would be hard as a foreigner or someone in a different country to disobey their law just for your own entertainment when it can wait. I don't wanna risk my safety getting arrested just to gamble online. Getting your account blocked or losing your balance is probably bearable.

It may be different for other people, especially if they are brave enough to violate the site's tos and the law.

I think there’s a confusion on this topic about the restriction of VPN on casino. Casino usually don’t allowed the use of VPN if it’s being use as way to bypass the country restrictions. On this particular case which the player originally live on country that online gambling is legal, I think the use of VPN is fair since he is not a resident of that particular country. He can always do a KYC with his ID that addressed on his original country also he can use an IP of his original country to play like there’s nothing change on the IP history of his account.

I sometimes claim free spin from slot provider that restricted my country and I support allows this since I’m just using VPN temporarily to claim the rewards. This means sometimes casino overlook the restrictions if the player notify the casino about the specific situation he was on.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site.

You will not have a problem if you told the representative you would travel to a country where it's illegal, you just need to submit your KYC and the representative will know you're not lying. This is why you need to communicate with the representative first before you taking an action that would make you in trouble.

As for me I'm not using a VPN because I never travel on a country where it's illegal.

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No. First, the use of online casino isn't illegal here in my country so I don't need to use VPN just to play. But if I'm in a situation you mentioned where I travel in a country that doesn't allow online gambling, then I won't gamble for the mean time while I'm in that country. I would be only there in that country for a short period of time so I can wait till I can go back home. Also my biggest worry is, it would be hard as a foreigner or someone in a different country to disobey their law just for your own entertainment when it can wait. I don't wanna risk my safety getting arrested just to gamble online. Getting your account blocked or losing your balance is probably bearable.

It may be different for other people, especially if they are brave enough to violate the site's tos and the law.

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Well, I posted this based on a some people trying to use excuses to get out of account bans for using VPNs... knowing that it was illegal in their country and also knowing that it was against the ToS of the site.

Based on the replies to this thread, most people will not risk losing their account balance or their whole account for breaking the rules that are stated in the ToS.

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Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

I definitely do not prefer to use a VPN if the country I am in has blocked access to such a website. The reason for this is both not having a problem with the legal process that may occur and the possibility of my account being blocked on the pretext of an access ban in my location. In addition, in the case of using free VPN services unfortunately different problems may arise regarding the IP address selected from the IP pool. For this reason, I am generally against the use of VPN. Regarding access to gambling services for the reasons I stated at the beginning of my message it is among my preferences not to use VPN.
I also think that if the account is blocked as a result of using VPN, there is no refund in any way. In such a case both legal problems may occur and the money transferred here can be blocked without being used in any way.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 01, 2023, 06:50:26 PM

As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

I will also alarm it to everyone involved notnto try thebuse of VPN onna casino of their platform kicked against such, it's one of the means people can adopt to attack them by manipulating the IP address and other shady acts using technology development softwares, the casinos also have a security network that deals with this kind of attempts to their website and once they discover the use of such, they mark your account and restrict some functions, these are part of the reasons you see many abusers reporting casinos on scam accusation board after they were the ones at fault.

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I think if they are not allowing you to use VPN so you should avoid to use VPN because if you will not follow their terms and conditions so they can ban your account or they will not allow you to use their services. So it will better you should not use the VPN. And if you want to use VPN so you can use the VPN at your own risk. And I will not use VPN if it is mentioned in terms and conditions.

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Straight up, no chaser: Playing fast and loose with a VPN is like juggling with dynamite, even if the suits seem to be turning a Nelson's eye. ToS aren't just corporate jargon, they're a safety net for both the corporation and us, the users. Brush them off, and you could land yourself in a whole heap of trouble.

Suppose you're heading to a spot on the globe where online gambling is a no-fly zone, your VPN might spring the lock, but remember, it's pretty much like crashing a party - yeah, you might dance to the tunes, but there's always a chance you could get found out. If the big cheeses catch you in the act, you're toast!

What goes down if they slam the brakes on your account and commandeer your bankroll? Well, you're practically stranded. You've already disregarded their ToS, so it's their ballgame, their rules. Be smart, stick to the straight and narrow, and keep your winnings under wraps.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Probably not if against the TOS. I'd just wait to be back home where it's legal than risking the balance in my account. I am curious though for those who will change their permanent address to another country where it's not allowed. They would probably need to tell customer support for special treatment because of his sudden case as long as there is proof of the relocation or the other option is to withdraw all the amount from the old gambling site and look for something new that is allowed in the new place that they will live in.
Yeah, I'd pick those options that risk the money being locked and cannot get it back again. We have a lot of online gambling sites now so I think there will always be that one site that is not restricted to gambling in one country. That will be better than being inclined with a VPN.

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I've done it before, but I wouldn't do it again when my account is on the line. If it's blocked on my end, then i'll switch to another casino because I have no problem using a different casino when I have accounts in other casinos. If I somehow break the rules by using VPN the only amount that casinos confiscate is usually the winnings while the deposited amount will be returned or at least the account will be allowed to withdraw the remaining amount.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Uhm no? Why would I force myself to play when there's other possible options I can play on? If there wasn't, well as much as I say gambling is for enjoyment it does involve money so nah, I'm fine with not playing. If it were for free though, like what I do to access some specific beta test of some games, then hell yea I'd do it.

Imo it isn't really controversial, it's just kind ass how some casinos change their ToS to suddenly rejecting VPN, or somehow flagging you for multi accounting, which can happen due to how VPN works afaik when in the first place THEY should know how VPN works. Well that is if VPN is allowed in the first place. If it wasn't, then yea I really don't think I would or even risk it.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Whatever will make you violate the terms of service of any casino should be avoided. We all know that VPN helps to improve privacy but ToS is an agreement between you and the casino, violating it may attract severe consequences. Most of these casinos are mandated by regulators to prohibit the use of VPNs because they want to check fraud and money laundering within their territory. Your funds can be frozen or your account closed if they suspect that you are using VPN. Even if you report to relevant authorities about your problem they will do nothing about it because you have violated the terms of service. Litigation against the casino will also be fruitless. The best advice is that if you are not comfortable with casinos that don't permit the use of VPNs, you can search for others that accept it and carry out your gambling there. There are many trusted crypto casinos that you can use that don't prohibit the use of a VPN.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 01, 2023, 06:50:26 PM

As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

if the player wants a headache, then use VPN even if they state it clearly on their ToS about not using it. just follow their terms or suffer their consequences, plain and simple.
some players are hardheaded and when it is time to collect their funds, and the site got a hold of it, they will accuse the site of being a scam. sometimes, i don't understand people with such kind of mentality.

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As everything is clearly mentioned in their ToS, violating the same gonna be problematic someday. Maybe for the moment we doesn't get about it. We itself know that we have violated the ToS using VPN. In such situation how can we request help on the blocking of our account.

It is a must for everyone to read the ToS, and I'm sure no one does it. Simply everyone go on the flow clicking agree. Understanding and not doing it seems to be fair, so that doesn't get into unwanted issues and enjoy gambling.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

If it's allowed, then used it.

If it's not allowed, then why use it?

Why consider doing the thing that is prohibited by the Terms and Services of the site? If we violated those, the site has a valid reason to block our account. If we are traveling to a country where online gambling is illegal, why even consider gambling in that place and we really have even that time for that as we have a reason obviously why we travel to that country?

Not just we are risking our account on that said gambling platform but what if there's a way to track users' activity online in that country where online gambling is illegal? We are violation not just the site's Terms and Conditions but also breaking the country's law about online gambling.

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Like w know that many regions are restricted from playing bets especially on some gambling platforms so the only way they can explore and get what they want us to use VPN and make bet. This is a risky adventure and if found m, the person can lose the account and will not able to withdraw the funds inside. There are different VPN app but in this case, we need to use VPN that are more safer and will not make us to get caught by the casino we are using. It is also good for us to always remove our funds from the casino whenever we make winnings.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 01, 2023, 10:45:26 AM

I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Always read the terms and conditions of any casino or online sportbooks before making use of them. If the terms rejects the use of VPN to access their platforms then don't violate their rules and expect them to pay you when you win big gambling.

We have many casinos to use in betting or sportsbooks to use in booking your sport games therefore you don't have to default. Make use of the better alternative and make sure you obey their rules as well. Make sure you're not guilty so don't get denied your winnings.

Gambling is banned in some countries and when the authorities find out a casino or sportsbooks were allowing people from those country that don't support gambling are using VPN to access their platforms, it becomes an issue and might make the casino to close.

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