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If I'm not mistaken, I think all the big online casinos prohibit the use of VPN (correct me if I'm generalizing too much).
The big problem with the VPN is when players need to make a withdrawal, because at that moment the casino will ask you for KYC verification and among them, probably a proof of address.

My advice is not to use VPN, but this is not feasible, I would say that you should bet at this casino the minimum necessary to place some bets aimed only at fun and not profit, you must bear in mind that at any time the casino can block your funds, then the money you put there should always be considered as "lost".

I think the main issue is that as far as I understand it, it is illegal for the casino to provide gambling services to people from certain countries.

The main way they have to detect the country where the gambler is from is basically using IP address geo check, and if they are using a VPN they could be from anywhere really.

I think the casinos will try to get better at detecting VPNs as they might be liable for this.
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Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?
Well, no casino will have the chance or will I give them the privilege of blocking my account and confiscating my funds, simply because I won't be using VPN when I clearly know it's not smiled at by the casino, I don't have too much money at the moment, so I don't see why I should indulge myself in activities that puts my account and funds on the account at risk of losing it, I would rather loose my money in gambling than have the casino confiscate it for going against their terms and conditions..

Since I started gambling online, I've never used a VPN to access any casino, even though I know some of the site allow VPN usage, I still dont use it because I understand the implications of mistakenly using it on a casino where it's not supported.
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I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

If I'm not mistaken, I think all the big online casinos prohibit the use of VPN (correct me if I'm generalizing too much).
The big problem with the VPN is when players need to make a withdrawal, because at that moment the casino will ask you for KYC verification and among them, probably a proof of address.

My advice is not to use VPN, but this is not feasible, I would say that you should bet at this casino the minimum necessary to place some bets aimed only at fun and not profit, you must bear in mind that at any time the casino can block your funds, then the money you put there should always be considered as "lost".
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When a gambler knowingly takes the risk and knows that his account may be blocked, then the gambler has to rely entirely on luck. Many gamblers are actually forced to use a VPN because gambling websites are illegal in their country, which leaves the gambler with no other options and starts gambling out of fear of losing their account. And then some gambling websites capitalize on this weakness of the gamblers and make various excuses to freeze the winning funds of those gamblers.

For that, if the said gambling site really prohibits the use of VPN to access their platform, we can't call it as excuse anymore as why they freeze users account. I don't know the situation of those users who reside in a country where online gambling is illegal but I can't imagine they really putting themselves at risks since it's not just the policy and terms of the gambling site they are violating but also the law of their country. They will faced charges if caught.

We need someone here on these countries where online gambling is illegal to tell us how they deal with online gambling.

I become curious.
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When a gambler knowingly takes the risk and knows that his account may be blocked, then the gambler has to rely entirely on luck. Many gamblers are actually forced to use a VPN because gambling websites are illegal in their country, which leaves the gambler with no other options and starts gambling out of fear of losing their account. And then some gambling websites capitalize on this weakness of the gamblers and make various excuses to freeze the winning funds of those gamblers.
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I really like the point of view from @madnessteat .
If car is speeding over the limit chances are he will get a fine for it and in some cases he might get away with it.
If a person is using a VPN, in most cases he will get his account frozen for it but in some cases he might get away with it.
It all depends on how lucky we are and our willingness to do it despite knowing the circumstances.

True, but the fact that winning big in the casino is already very unlikely. Adding another layer there seems too risky to me, because it would suck to win and then not being able to get the money because of the usage of a VPN.

And they would be in their right to refuse payment unfortunately.

Exactly and that is the point why VPNs are frowned upon using on gambling sites.
Why would anyone use a VPN on sites it is restricted on when they know that their winnings will be blocked eventually.
So this basically depends on the site if they allow using VPNs then users can use it and otherwise not.
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maybe someone who wants to gamble without using a VPN but looking for a site that accepts their country without any restrictions really has to be careful and on the forum there are also lots of gambling sites that have been reviewed by several people on this forum and it's free to see which site is suitable and has good reputation.

but when you get a gambling site that can be accessed without a VPN but the site is still new, it's better to keep using a small budget so you don't get disappointed when problems get too heavy.
Yes, they can search this forum and will find it by having lots of reviews from us. And as long as they can find a trusted casino and accept them without using a VPN, they can gamble in peace and have nothing to worry about.

Don't expect much from new casino sites because they must prove their good service to us. If they can provide good service and always give their best to their members, their site will get a good reputation.
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I really like the point of view from @madnessteat .
If car is speeding over the limit chances are he will get a fine for it and in some cases he might get away with it.
If a person is using a VPN, in most cases he will get his account frozen for it but in some cases he might get away with it.
It all depends on how lucky we are and our willingness to do it despite knowing the circumstances.

True, but the fact that winning big in the casino is already very unlikely. Adding another layer there seems too risky to me, because it would suck to win and then not being able to get the money because of the usage of a VPN.

And they would be in their right to refuse payment unfortunately.
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To understand why people play on gambling sites that forbid them to do so just remember how you drive a car. I am sure that most of us exceed the speed limit, knowing full well that you can get a fine for it. So why do we do it? - Because we like it. The same can be said about gambling in casinos, which prohibit the registration of citizens of certain countries. Each of us can do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't violate anyone's rights and freedoms.

Someone may not agree with me, but it is his personal right.
If the analogy is like that then I have to conclude that the consequences you get are in accordance with what that person did, because in general we already know the risks and impacts we will receive from blocking accounts that do not allow VPN use. But instead people ignore the restrictions given by the site and try to get around it in any way they think is possible.

Even though we can also see other sites that allow access to VPNs and in the end it's up to each individual how to use gambling sites and for me playing safe is far better than risking risk account blocking.

I really like the point of view from @madnessteat .
If car is speeding over the limit chances are he will get a fine for it and in some cases he might get away with it.
If a person is using a VPN, in most cases he will get his account frozen for it but in some cases he might get away with it.
It all depends on how lucky we are and our willingness to do it despite knowing the circumstances.
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One simply shouldn't use a casino that they are not comfortable with, after all, you pay to use their services and if they are not what you are looking for, you can always change your choice. Trusted and reputable exchanges don't do that, if they make a change, they inform their users most of the time, and even if they miss an update, they eventually do let them know about it later on.

I personally don't prefer using new casinos because you can barely trust them in the first place, you should only use a new casino if it has already earned the trust of the community in some way, otherwise, it is simply not worth the money that you spend with them.
That is why they must be able to find a casino that can make them comfortable while playing gambling and avoid problems that can arise. This depends on their wishes because they can find casinos or exchanges from this forum where they will find some casinos or exchanges that can satisfy them. Those who use a new casino to find out the services have to really limit their money before they get the truth because it runs the risk of losing money in the new casino. After all, they already have a casino on their roster so they don't need to try their hand at gambling at the new casino.
maybe someone who wants to gamble without using a VPN but looking for a site that accepts their country without any restrictions really has to be careful and on the forum there are also lots of gambling sites that have been reviewed by several people on this forum and it's free to see which site is suitable and has good reputation.

but when you get a gambling site that can be accessed without a VPN but the site is still new, it's better to keep using a small budget so you don't get disappointed when problems get too heavy.
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One simply shouldn't use a casino that they are not comfortable with, after all, you pay to use their services and if they are not what you are looking for, you can always change your choice. Trusted and reputable exchanges don't do that, if they make a change, they inform their users most of the time, and even if they miss an update, they eventually do let them know about it later on.

I personally don't prefer using new casinos because you can barely trust them in the first place, you should only use a new casino if it has already earned the trust of the community in some way, otherwise, it is simply not worth the money that you spend with them.
That is why they must be able to find a casino that can make them comfortable while playing gambling and avoid problems that can arise. This depends on their wishes because they can find casinos or exchanges from this forum where they will find some casinos or exchanges that can satisfy them. Those who use a new casino to find out the services have to really limit their money before they get the truth because it runs the risk of losing money in the new casino. After all, they already have a casino on their roster so they don't need to try their hand at gambling at the new casino.
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The smaller casinos might advertise that they are "VPN Friendly" in the beginning, but as soon as they grow large enough, they suddenly come under the radar of the regulators and they remove that feature from their site.  Roll Eyes
What we don't like is that the casino can change the rules at will without giving notice to all its members so that later some gamblers are not aware of the new rules and accidentally break them. And when they find out that the rules have changed, they complain to the support service but the support service also doesn't provide any help because it's written in the rules. This is what makes many gamblers, especially crypto gamblers, disappointed with changes in regulations that were not notified to them. And those crypto gamblers eventually moved to other, more comfortable casinos.
One simply shouldn't use a casino that they are not comfortable with, after all, you pay to use their services and if they are not what you are looking for, you can always change your choice. Trusted and reputable exchanges don't do that, if they make a change, they inform their users most of the time, and even if they miss an update, they eventually do let them know about it later on.

I personally don't prefer using new casinos because you can barely trust them in the first place, you should only use a new casino if it has already earned the trust of the community in some way, otherwise, it is simply not worth the money that you spend with them.
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To understand why people play on gambling sites that forbid them to do so just remember how you drive a car. I am sure that most of us exceed the speed limit, knowing full well that you can get a fine for it. So why do we do it? - Because we like it. The same can be said about gambling in casinos, which prohibit the registration of citizens of certain countries. Each of us can do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't violate anyone's rights and freedoms.

Someone may not agree with me, but it is his personal right.
If the analogy is like that then I have to conclude that the consequences you get are in accordance with what that person did, because in general we already know the risks and impacts we will receive from blocking accounts that do not allow VPN use. But instead people ignore the restrictions given by the site and try to get around it in any way they think is possible.

Even though we can also see other sites that allow access to VPNs and in the end it's up to each individual how to use gambling sites and for me playing safe is far better than risking risk account blocking.
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The smaller casinos might advertise that they are "VPN Friendly" in the beginning, but as soon as they grow large enough, they suddenly come under the radar of the regulators and they remove that feature from their site.  Roll Eyes
Agreed and that kind of thing happens a lot more in new casinos.
However, actually using a VPN is also very risky if it is not allowed by the casino because if you never get a big win, maybe you can safely and easily use a VPN, but when you get a big win, the thing to fear is that the win cannot be withdrawn because they are a having problems using a VPN.
I used to use a VPN but only in casinos allowed it and after I thought it was better to change DNS than having to use a VPN.
When a casino doesn't allow players from a country where you reside, it is obviously not a good option to use a VPN only to play at that casino because even if you can play using a VPN, you won't be able to make a withdrawal since if they ask for KYC, you won't be able to complete that because they won't accept documents from your country, so you will be left with no options.

A VPN should only be used in a casino if you are a regular customer but for some reason, you are not able to access the platform, maybe because of relocation or something, and even in such cases, it is still better to first ask the support before going ahead with it because if they don't allow it, they can always ban your account for doing that.
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The smaller casinos might advertise that they are "VPN Friendly" in the beginning, but as soon as they grow large enough, they suddenly come under the radar of the regulators and they remove that feature from their site.  Roll Eyes
Agreed and that kind of thing happens a lot more in new casinos.
However, actually using a VPN is also very risky if it is not allowed by the casino because if you never get a big win, maybe you can safely and easily use a VPN, but when you get a big win, the thing to fear is that the win cannot be withdrawn because they are a having problems using a VPN.
I used to use a VPN but only in casinos allowed it and after I thought it was better to change DNS than having to use a VPN.
Maybe we should announce the names of the online casino or sports gambling site that does this now. I don't know any who have done that kind of trick but it is messed up if they are suddenly changing a part of the TOS for their own benefit.
It's not like they aren't already making money from their services and being the house but they have to get greedy and lock accounts that are using VPNs. Maybe they should also be punished once proven guilty of bending the rules.
It seems that there is no need to announce it because it will only bring debate.
I've never experienced anything like it myself but a few friends of mine have and lost some money in some of the smaller casinos.
Initially, with small wins there were no problems, but when I got a big enough win and wanted to withdraw it, the casino actually had problems using the VPN and refused the withdrawal that had been made.
This will be a lesson for us that using a VPN is actually risky and also using a small casino is a mistake for gamblers who often place large bets.
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There might be countries who totally ban all sorts of gambling including the offline ones but for those who still allow some, it would be better if you play on the casino where it is fully legal. There is no need to use a VPN. I don't like this actually because I think it makes my existing connection slower and also my gameplay because there are now more than one app running in the background.

If VPN is not allowed by a the terms and conditions of gambling site, the more I will not use it but there might be some who continue and are lucky to not get caught. If in case it gone wrong, well I guess they will accept the consequences easily and just move on. It only becomes hard if we accidentally win a really huge amount.
I will also do the same thing if I can't access casino sites that are prohibited by the government of my country, I will not try to use a VPN because obviously it is very unsafe also in many cases the account is banned by the casino and can be frozen, so I it's better to play casino that I can access using my internet wifi without having to use a VPN.

I know there are other reasons people use VPNs, namely wanting to hide their real IP, but actually it's also dangerous if the casino marks them as users who violate the rules, usually there are also rules not to use VPNs, you should also read the terms and conditions of the casino before using VPN at least contact their service support.
Without question, your apprehensions regarding the employment of VPNs ring true, especially when considering the possible hazards at play. Indeed, as you've highlighted, one might face complications such as decelerated net speeds or extraneous applications leeching off your computational capabilities. Nevertheless, I'd advocate that a high-level VPN service would only inflict an insignificant effect on both your Internet velocity and overall system output.

Moving to the sphere of legality and user agreements associated with virtual gambling platforms, I concur without reservation. It's utterly critical to remain in strict compliance with the stipulations imposed by these digital arenas and the relevant governmental bodies. While the rigidity of rule enforcement may fluctuate, and a select few might evade repercussions, I must stress that such a path is not wise nor recommendable.

Diving into the aspect of concealing one's actual Internet Protocol address, though a VPN does proffer a layer of anonymity, one must appreciate its double-edged nature. There's a clear and vital difference between remaining anonymous and intentionally bypassing regulations. Ergo, it is absolutely necessary to peruse the terms and conditions diligently and don't hesitate to contact customer support in case of ambiguities!
When we do trying out to compare in between free and premium VPN then we could really be able to tell about its differences on which we know that having that premium is much better but if you dont bother out
then using up those FREE would really be that enough specially when you do really like to hide up your IP address and chance up according on a certain location.The thing that i dont really like is on the time that
using up this connection is way too slow which it is understandable.I never ever experience out with that swift loadings when using up VPN which it is really that pretty common.

In the question whether you would use something that it is against a casinos terms and condition, is this something really be that needed to be answered? This one only needs up common sense for you to have
that kind of action that should be made. Why would really be doing something which its against their TOS? You would really do know that if you would be able to do so then you are really that putting yourself
at risks on getting blocked or locked up funds because you have violated something which it is really just that a common thing to happen on someone who do loves on opposing those rules.
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There might be countries who totally ban all sorts of gambling including the offline ones but for those who still allow some, it would be better if you play on the casino where it is fully legal. There is no need to use a VPN. I don't like this actually because I think it makes my existing connection slower and also my gameplay because there are now more than one app running in the background.

If VPN is not allowed by a the terms and conditions of gambling site, the more I will not use it but there might be some who continue and are lucky to not get caught. If in case it gone wrong, well I guess they will accept the consequences easily and just move on. It only becomes hard if we accidentally win a really huge amount.
I will also do the same thing if I can't access casino sites that are prohibited by the government of my country, I will not try to use a VPN because obviously it is very unsafe also in many cases the account is banned by the casino and can be frozen, so I it's better to play casino that I can access using my internet wifi without having to use a VPN.

I know there are other reasons people use VPNs, namely wanting to hide their real IP, but actually it's also dangerous if the casino marks them as users who violate the rules, usually there are also rules not to use VPNs, you should also read the terms and conditions of the casino before using VPN at least contact their service support.
Without question, your apprehensions regarding the employment of VPNs ring true, especially when considering the possible hazards at play. Indeed, as you've highlighted, one might face complications such as decelerated net speeds or extraneous applications leeching off your computational capabilities. Nevertheless, I'd advocate that a high-level VPN service would only inflict an insignificant effect on both your Internet velocity and overall system output.

Moving to the sphere of legality and user agreements associated with virtual gambling platforms, I concur without reservation. It's utterly critical to remain in strict compliance with the stipulations imposed by these digital arenas and the relevant governmental bodies. While the rigidity of rule enforcement may fluctuate, and a select few might evade repercussions, I must stress that such a path is not wise nor recommendable.

Diving into the aspect of concealing one's actual Internet Protocol address, though a VPN does proffer a layer of anonymity, one must appreciate its double-edged nature. There's a clear and vital difference between remaining anonymous and intentionally bypassing regulations. Ergo, it is absolutely necessary to peruse the terms and conditions diligently and don't hesitate to contact customer support in case of ambiguities!
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To understand why people play on gambling sites that forbid them to do so just remember how you drive a car. I am sure that most of us exceed the speed limit, knowing full well that you can get a fine for it. So why do we do it? - Because we like it. The same can be said about gambling in casinos, which prohibit the registration of citizens of certain countries. Each of us can do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't violate anyone's rights and freedoms.

Someone may not agree with me, but it is his personal right.
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I don't see why you can't hold your desire to gamble when you're traveling, traveling let you stay few days or a week in other country, it's not long. You seems not use all of your times to enjoy your travel and you don't have a good self control if you need to gamble everyday.

Since I have a good self control, I choose to not gamble and will gamble after I back or move to a country where gambling is legal.
That's just a small example that some people are trying to convey and actually the point of focus is only on VPN use when ToS prohibits it, so what steps to take when knowing this because the consequences are dire and will result in a permanent account ban. But on the other hand there may be some gambling sites that allow VPN users and this is worth a try rather than taking the risk on a site that doesn't allow VPNs.

At present the convenience of gambling will not limit people even though they are on a trip to another country, in fact everyone can take advantage of the convenience via a smartphone in gambling. So it doesn't limit anyone from gambling or maybe the person you are referring to is indeed active in gambling, so even when they are on their way they still gamble as usual.
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I don't see why you can't hold your desire to gamble when you're traveling, traveling let you stay few days or a week in other country, it's not long. You seems not use all of your times to enjoy your travel and you don't have a good self control if you need to gamble everyday.
Since I have a good self control, I choose to not gamble and will gamble after I back or move to a country where gambling is legal.
Right, When a person goes abroad, he must have a purpose.  Because no one goes abroad just by spending Hughes money. Some have the purpose of visiting the country and some go for business purposes, so that time is very important and valuable for everyone. So instead of wasting time by gambling at that time, the time should be put to good use. And if there is no gambling there is no need to use vpn.  Again if a site is banned in your country but you need to gamble on that site then you can use vpn but it must be premium vpn.  Otherwise, the account may be locked if there is a proxy problem. Considering all these aspects then one should decide to gamble using vpn
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