[WTS] 18x S9's and 16x L3+'s w/ Power Supplies

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Quote from: Mark Baum on March 12, 2018, 11:54:26 AM

You're either one of the dumbest, stunned twits around or you're a tenacious scammer. Tell us which one. NO ONE IS SENDING YOU 30K $ UPFRONT WITH NO IDENTITY OR ESCROW. Beat it. Stop wasting people's time.

I'm not wasting anyone's time, and I'm not forcing people to click on my thread. I also said I would use escrow initially, so really I'm not asking anyone to send that much money upfront without escrow or without any confidence.

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You're either one of the dumbest, stunned twits around or you're a tenacious scammer. Tell us which one. NO ONE IS SENDING YOU 30K $ UPFRONT WITH NO IDENTITY OR ESCROW. Beat it. Stop wasting people's time.

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Quote from: crazydane on March 10, 2018, 12:48:17 PM

But if you would rather sell them than host them, why buy them in the first place only to sell at a loss?

I friend I trust has offered me a S9 with PSU he just got from Bitmain this week, for 0.16 BTC, which is $1,504 right now. My existing S9's are struggling to make $10 right now before power, and if difficulty continues at the current trajectory and BTC price remains around $9,400, it's game over by October, at which point I will have only earned back about $750. So the future is looking pretty bleak right now unless BTC starting picking up again, AND difficulty stays in check.

Unfortunately I didn't have the ability to look into the future months down the road and see how little they would be going for now.

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But if you would rather sell them than host them, why buy them in the first place only to sell at a loss?

I friend I trust has offered me a S9 with PSU he just got from Bitmain this week, for 0.16 BTC, which is $1,504 right now. My existing S9's are struggling to make $10 right now before power, and if difficulty continues at the current trajectory and BTC price remains around $9,400, it's game over by October, at which point I will have only earned back about $750. So the future is looking pretty bleak right now unless BTC starting picking up again, AND difficulty stays in check.

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Quote from: janismm88 on March 10, 2018, 03:55:45 AM

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 10, 2018, 12:11:28 AM

Quote from: BenRickert on March 10, 2018, 12:06:21 AM

After much back and forth with this individual or individuals, based on some inconsistencies in dialogue, it is my strong gut feel that this is a scam. Make your own decisions but I wouldn't touch this situation. Likely a couple of "resellers" that bought a bunch of miners for $2700 plus PSU's from Bitmain and now they're screwed and can't get rid of them. So they cooked up this plan to escrow 1 or 2 machines and then try and get a chunk of money for the rest and run. Rinse and repeat. Beware.

Inconsistencies such as?

You can draw any conclusion you want, doesn't make any of it factual. I'm not a reseller, I don't have a partner, and I'm not screwed if I can't sell them. I would prefer to get rid of them, but if I can't make a deal then it's not the end of the world.

Yes this is clever scam more advanced
1) price is more or less real
2) He even have stock pics look real
3) offer couple units escrow
4) Gain little bit trust take big chunk and run away Cheesy

@ OP you didn't answer why you sell in first place why order from bitmain and then sell immediately at loss? You didn't think about hosting solution before order

I'm selling them because I would rather sell them then host them. Of course I thought about hosting. I said here on this thread yesterday that if I didn't sell them I would just host them, no big deal, I would just rather sell them is all.

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simply put:

if you cannot confirm the identity of the person and have some assurances then never deal without escrow.
even if you manage to get some assurances, then never deal with a new user, as they have nothing to lose if their account is compromised.
as others have said before me, this thread seems fishy...

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Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 10, 2018, 12:11:28 AM

Quote from: BenRickert on March 10, 2018, 12:06:21 AM

After much back and forth with this individual or individuals, based on some inconsistencies in dialogue, it is my strong gut feel that this is a scam. Make your own decisions but I wouldn't touch this situation. Likely a couple of "resellers" that bought a bunch of miners for $2700 plus PSU's from Bitmain and now they're screwed and can't get rid of them. So they cooked up this plan to escrow 1 or 2 machines and then try and get a chunk of money for the rest and run. Rinse and repeat. Beware.

Inconsistencies such as?

You can draw any conclusion you want, doesn't make any of it factual. I'm not a reseller, I don't have a partner, and I'm not screwed if I can't sell them. I would prefer to get rid of them, but if I can't make a deal then it's not the end of the world.

Yes this is clever scam more advanced
1) price is more or less real
2) He even have stock pics look real
3) offer couple units escrow
4) Gain little bit trust take big chunk and run away Cheesy

@ OP you didn't answer why you sell in first place why order from bitmain and then sell immediately at loss? You didn't think about hosting solution before order

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Quote from: EricJH801 on March 09, 2018, 06:00:13 PM

I don't think he's trying to scam, I just don't think he's comfortable with 30k+ in the hands of an escrow. These are probably best sold locally when it comes down to it and just meet at the police station or somewhere super public.

More than likely the OP is going to be keeping them because no one is going to touch the concept he's trying to use to purchase them all.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 05:47:16 PM

You're not saying anything that others haven't already said, so I'm not going to bother to try and rationalize my every decision to you. If you're not interested, move on. Your English needs some work too.

no no he will not meet me in public even with one miner because I will put gun to his head and come to his house to steel remaining miners Lol
Even in biggest central police station he will not meet I'm sure Cheesy

because police may be corrupt and they will also put gun to his head Cheesy

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Quote from: BenRickert on March 10, 2018, 12:06:21 AM

After much back and forth with this individual or individuals, based on some inconsistencies in dialogue, it is my strong gut feel that this is a scam. Make your own decisions but I wouldn't touch this situation. Likely a couple of "resellers" that bought a bunch of miners for $2700 plus PSU's from Bitmain and now they're screwed and can't get rid of them. So they cooked up this plan to escrow 1 or 2 machines and then try and get a chunk of money for the rest and run. Rinse and repeat. Beware.

Inconsistencies such as?

You can draw any conclusion you want, doesn't make any of it factual. I'm not a reseller, I don't have a partner, and I'm not screwed if I can't sell them. I would prefer to get rid of them, but if I can't make a deal then it's not the end of the world.

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After much back and forth with this individual or individuals, based on some inconsistencies in dialogue, it is my strong gut feel that this is a scam. Make your own decisions but I wouldn't touch this situation. Likely a couple of "resellers" that bought a bunch of miners for $2700 plus PSU's from Bitmain and now they're screwed and can't get rid of them. So they cooked up this plan to escrow 1 or 2 machines and then try and get a chunk of money for the rest and run. Rinse and repeat. Beware.

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Quote from: EricJH801 on March 09, 2018, 06:00:13 PM

I don't think he's trying to scam, I just don't think he's comfortable with 30k+ in the hands of an escrow. These are probably best sold locally when it comes down to it and just meet at the police station or somewhere super public.

More than likely the OP is going to be keeping them because no one is going to touch the concept he's trying to use to purchase them all.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 05:47:16 PM

You're not saying anything that others haven't already said, so I'm not going to bother to try and rationalize my every decision to you. If you're not interested, move on. Your English needs some work too.

I offered that. To no avail. If lump sum in escrow is not comfortable, why not do separate tranches. Smaller lots. 10 10 10 or 5 5 5 5 5 5 etc? Id really like to do this deal but it's just not an acceptable risk by his terms. The risk there is all mine.

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I don't think he's trying to scam, I just don't think he's comfortable with 30k+ in the hands of an escrow. These are probably best sold locally when it comes down to it and just meet at the police station or somewhere super public.

More than likely the OP is going to be keeping them because no one is going to touch the concept he's trying to use to purchase them all.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 05:47:16 PM

You're not saying anything that others haven't already said, so I'm not going to bother to try and rationalize my every decision to you. If you're not interested, move on. Your English needs some work too.

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You're not saying anything that others haven't already said, so I'm not going to bother to try and rationalize my every decision to you. If you're not interested, move on. Your English needs some work too.

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OP why you order miners if you don't have a place to host them???
BTW of course in USA are plenty datacenters who host miners mentioned in this forum
What is your problem? Why you ordered in first place? To sell for less price??
Doesn't make sense at all...
Thread full of warnings

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I think OP try to pull out a scam Grin

Tactic is little bit advanced and sneaky but if you put puzzle together it's much more likely a scam ...
Even if he have all stock so WHAT!!!! He can just take coins and never ship it.... if he push to make payment for everything without escrow. He deny local pickup ok I understand it can be somehow tricky... but I offered to split it up meet in public place with few miners it's not a big deal... then how cars are sold Huh

Nobody ask payment before see car and nobody is afraid to show. BS this not comfortable. Difficult to put in car 1 or 2 miners and come to meet in my place or your chosen??? Total BS!!!
other people offer to meet up for 5000 miners???!!! Why they are comfortable??? Well it's real deal with real price...

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I sent you a PM. Maybe do this in tranches through escrow, to your comfort level? 10, 10, and 14 or 17 and 17? Just a thought. I made other suggestions in the PM.

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Quote from: EricJH801 on March 09, 2018, 01:02:56 PM

I highly doubt you are going to find anyone here who is going to pay you up front with crypto without escrow even if you sell them a few through escrow first. Selling someone a few units through escrow proves you have a few units, doesn't prove you are going to send them the rest if they pay you up front. Trust isn't built after doing escrow for a few units. What's to stop you from keeping the money and running after you go through the escrow for the first few? You would be better off just selling a few at a time on here using escrow and not trying to sell them all at once.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 12:57:19 PM

Quote from: EricJH801 on March 09, 2018, 12:31:40 PM

Why not just escrow them all and specify the buyer pays escrow? Problem solved. No one is going to pay you upfront even if you do sell a few of them through escrow first, it's just not a smart move on the buyers part.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 10:15:23 AM

My units aren't worth $1,080 unless I decide to sell them at $1,080. I would sell them at that price if I thought the price of bitcoin/litecoin was never going to recover, but I don't. I'll wait a few days and maybe they'll continue to depreciate, or maybe they'll start to appreciate, you don't know whats going to happen any more or less than I do. The only way I would ever sell them for $1,080 a piece is if you would be willing to send me the payment upfront, that's the only way I would EVER go that low. I'm not inexperienced in this arena, I'm just not going to sell them at that price unless you make it a good deal for me too. I'm not even playing the "stubborn seller game" either! I said originally that I would be a little flexible with my prices! What I won't be flexible with is how I want to do the deal itself, not the prices. Let me know if you change your mind about escrow if you want to get these units for a steal at $1,080 per unit before the price of bitcoin/litecoin goes back up and these go for twice that. Like I said I'll escrow the first couple of them to show you I have what I have and I'm not messing around.

Because I don't want my miners not in my hands and all that money not in my hands either. Like I said I'm willing to escrow the first couple of miners because the monetary value wouldn't be excessive, and to prove that I have these machines and I want to sell them, but beyond that I wouldn't feel good about it. I'm willing to give a good price to anyone willing to work with me here, so it's not like I'm asking this of the buyer without them getting a good deal out of it too. It is what it is, I'm sure I'll eventually be able to find someone willing to work with me here...

That's fine, if I don't find a buyer in the next couple of days I'll be finding somewhere to run them instead of selling them, so if anyone wants an extremely good price on hardware while crypto is on the decline, here is your chance.

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I highly doubt you are going to find anyone here who is going to pay you up front with crypto without escrow even if you sell them a few through escrow first. Selling someone a few units through escrow proves you have a few units, doesn't prove you are going to send them the rest if they pay you up front. Trust isn't built after doing escrow for a few units. What's to stop you from keeping the money and running after you go through the escrow for the first few? You would be better off just selling a few at a time on here using escrow and not trying to sell them all at once.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 12:57:19 PM

Quote from: EricJH801 on March 09, 2018, 12:31:40 PM

Why not just escrow them all and specify the buyer pays escrow? Problem solved. No one is going to pay you upfront even if you do sell a few of them through escrow first, it's just not a smart move on the buyers part.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 10:15:23 AM

My units aren't worth $1,080 unless I decide to sell them at $1,080. I would sell them at that price if I thought the price of bitcoin/litecoin was never going to recover, but I don't. I'll wait a few days and maybe they'll continue to depreciate, or maybe they'll start to appreciate, you don't know whats going to happen any more or less than I do. The only way I would ever sell them for $1,080 a piece is if you would be willing to send me the payment upfront, that's the only way I would EVER go that low. I'm not inexperienced in this arena, I'm just not going to sell them at that price unless you make it a good deal for me too. I'm not even playing the "stubborn seller game" either! I said originally that I would be a little flexible with my prices! What I won't be flexible with is how I want to do the deal itself, not the prices. Let me know if you change your mind about escrow if you want to get these units for a steal at $1,080 per unit before the price of bitcoin/litecoin goes back up and these go for twice that. Like I said I'll escrow the first couple of them to show you I have what I have and I'm not messing around.

Because I don't want my miners not in my hands and all that money not in my hands either. Like I said I'm willing to escrow the first couple of miners because the monetary value wouldn't be excessive, and to prove that I have these machines and I want to sell them, but beyond that I wouldn't feel good about it. I'm willing to give a good price to anyone willing to work with me here, so it's not like I'm asking this of the buyer without them getting a good deal out of it too. It is what it is, I'm sure I'll eventually be able to find someone willing to work with me here...

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Quote from: EricJH801 on March 09, 2018, 12:31:40 PM

Why not just escrow them all and specify the buyer pays escrow? Problem solved. No one is going to pay you upfront even if you do sell a few of them through escrow first, it's just not a smart move on the buyers part.

Quote from: cryptoenthusiast3 on March 09, 2018, 10:15:23 AM

My units aren't worth $1,080 unless I decide to sell them at $1,080. I would sell them at that price if I thought the price of bitcoin/litecoin was never going to recover, but I don't. I'll wait a few days and maybe they'll continue to depreciate, or maybe they'll start to appreciate, you don't know whats going to happen any more or less than I do. The only way I would ever sell them for $1,080 a piece is if you would be willing to send me the payment upfront, that's the only way I would EVER go that low. I'm not inexperienced in this arena, I'm just not going to sell them at that price unless you make it a good deal for me too. I'm not even playing the "stubborn seller game" either! I said originally that I would be a little flexible with my prices! What I won't be flexible with is how I want to do the deal itself, not the prices. Let me know if you change your mind about escrow if you want to get these units for a steal at $1,080 per unit before the price of bitcoin/litecoin goes back up and these go for twice that. Like I said I'll escrow the first couple of them to show you I have what I have and I'm not messing around.

Because I don't want my miners not in my hands and all that money not in my hands either. Like I said I'm willing to escrow the first couple of miners because the monetary value wouldn't be excessive, and to prove that I have these machines and I want to sell them, but beyond that I wouldn't feel good about it. I'm willing to give a good price to anyone willing to work with me here, so it's not like I'm asking this of the buyer without them getting a good deal out of it too. It is what it is, I'm sure I'll eventually be able to find someone willing to work with me here...

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