My units aren't worth $1,080 unless I decide to sell them at $1,080. I would sell them at that price if I thought the price of bitcoin/litecoin was never going to recover, but I don't. I'll wait a few days and maybe they'll continue to depreciate, or maybe they'll start to appreciate, you don't know whats going to happen any more or less than I do. The only way I would ever sell them for $1,080 a piece is if you would be willing to send me the payment upfront, that's the only way I would EVER go that low. I'm not inexperienced in this arena, I'm just not going to sell them at that price unless you make it a good deal for me too. I'm not even playing the "stubborn seller game" either! I said originally that I would be a little flexible with my prices! What I won't be flexible with is how I want to do the deal itself, not the prices. Let me know if you change your mind about escrow if you want to get these units for a steal at $1,080 per unit before the price of bitcoin/litecoin goes back up and these go for twice that. Like I said I'll escrow the first couple of them to show you I have what I have and I'm not messing around.
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Why not just escrow them all and specify the buyer pays escrow? Problem solved. No one is going to pay you upfront even if you do sell a few of them through escrow first, it's just not a smart move on the buyers part.
Best of luck to you. Goodbye.
My units aren't worth $1,080 unless I decide to sell them at $1,080. I would sell them at that price if I thought the price of bitcoin/litecoin was never going to recover, but I don't. I'll wait a few days and maybe they'll continue to depreciate, or maybe they'll start to appreciate, you don't know whats going to happen any more or less than I do. The only way I would ever sell them for $1,080 a piece is if you would be willing to send me the payment upfront, that's the only way I would EVER go that low. I'm not inexperienced in this arena, I'm just not going to sell them at that price unless you make it a good deal for me too. I'm not even playing the "stubborn seller game" either! I said originally that I would be a little flexible with my prices! What I won't be flexible with is how I want to do the deal itself, not the prices. Let me know if you change your mind about escrow if you want to get these units for a steal at $1,080 per unit before the price of bitcoin/litecoin goes back up and these go for twice that. Like I said I'll escrow the first couple of them to show you I have what I have and I'm not messing around.
Here's the deal. BTC/S9 profitability is $6.00 after electricity. Not so coincidentally, LTC/L3+ is also right at $6.00 per day. I've never bought an ASIC unit that took over 6 months to pay back investment through daily profits. It's just a good rule to live by in this volatile world. Add to that, the Beast Bitmain has flooded the market with stock of the ASIC units. In addition, there is most certainly new technology looming just around the corner. YOU may not be pricing your sales on "market swings" but any halfway astute buyer is. In the 4 days you've been playing this stubborn seller game, you have lost REAL money. By my metric, 3 days ago your units were worth $1,800.00 per. Today that number is $1,080.00. If you want to sell the whole lot, I'll pay you $1,080.00 per set and I will ABSOLUTELY need escrow from a trusted forum member. You're clearly inexperienced in this arena and that does NOT instill confidence.
Or....you can wait a few more days and watch your investment depreciate again, on "short term market swings". I always say, "you cannot impose value on the market, the market imposes value on you." Feel free to use that.
Or....you can wait a few more days and watch your investment depreciate again, on "short term market swings". I always say, "you cannot impose value on the market, the market imposes value on you." Feel free to use that.
I am seriously tempted by this block of miners but not at those prices and NOT a chance without Escrow. That's how we've done deals in here over and over. Never a problem. Honestly, if you don't like that you should just delete the thread and move on. You're being beyond reasonable. Well beyond...
I'd be happy to work with you and wiggle a little bit on my prices, but I'm not reflecting the prices of my machines based on short term market swings. I'd be willing to negotiate the price if it meant getting them all sold though of course. Also like I said I'm new to this forum, I don't know if deals have been done with "never a problem", you could tell me one thing just as much as someone else could tell me another thing, it doesn't mean I'm being beyond reasonable, it's just how I do business. And like I said before, I'd be willing to escrow the first couple of machines to prove to you that I of course am in possession of what I claim I'm in possession of, and that I'm of course selling what I claim to be selling, but beyond that I'm not sending all my machines to the buyer without the buyer sending me the payment. No hard feelings either way, but I don't feel that just because I want to do business different I should have to delete my thread and move on. I'm willing to be as reasonable as I can be.
I am seriously tempted by this block of miners but not at those prices and NOT a chance without Escrow. That's how we've done deals in here over and over. Never a problem. Honestly, if you don't like that you should just delete the thread and move on. You're being beyond reasonable. Well beyond...
Your thread is littered with red flags. You are not comfortable with everything! You don’t want to meet up, claiming you wouldn’t be comfortable meeting someone in person? Are you serious? If you want to scam, scam properly. You want coins sent upfront and if buyers are not comfortable with that, they shouldn’t bother messaging you?
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
You say you're in the US but the timezone in your profile doesn't match up with the current time in America.
It is exactly the same timezone as these accounts, all of which are involved in scam exchanges/autobuy links and buying and selling antminers:
djeezer12 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/djeezer12-1137488
acaua https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/acaua-1187489
jmScripting https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jmscripting-1497572
$@to$h! https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/toh-1183184
mts9miner https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mts9miner-1909479
Don't know what to say, it's the timezone that my account was given by default, haven't gone in and set it to be accurate. I'm sure I could just as easily come up with a list of scammers whos timezones are in the US.
Your thread is littered with red flags. You are not comfortable with everything! You don’t want to meet up, claiming you wouldn’t be comfortable meeting someone in person? Are you serious? If you want to scam, scam properly. You want coins sent upfront and if buyers are not comfortable with that, they shouldn’t bother messaging you?
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
You say you're in the US but the timezone in your profile doesn't match up with the current time in America.
It is exactly the same timezone as these accounts, all of which are involved in scam exchanges/autobuy links and buying and selling antminers:
djeezer12 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/djeezer12-1137488
acaua https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/acaua-1187489
jmScripting https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jmscripting-1497572
$@to$h! https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/toh-1183184
mts9miner https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mts9miner-1909479
Sell me an L3+ with a power supply. I am in New Jersey.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
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Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
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Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I would be happy to sell you one directly without escrow to try and help prove myself and that I just want to get these sold, I really appreciate the opportunity, but 1.5 btc is still a lot for me. It may take me longer to sell them this way but at least then I won't have to trust a third party or pay a bunch of fees.
Message me with your price and details then once we get the deal finalized I'll ask that you keep my post here updated to show any potential buyers that you sent me the payment upfront and I shipped the miner the very same day. If I can do a couple smaller deals like that hopefully it will give buyers enough confidence to buy the rest all at once and I can get these sold.
It is okay I ordered 1 from bitmain.
Also you don’t have to use me or anyone else for escrow. I understand you for not trusting me.
Maybe someone will just send the btc upfront and trust you.
I am out of this as an escrow.
He's not offering to send you payment up front. He is one of the trusted escrows, he's offering to send you payment after he receives the L3+ from you just like if anyone else bought from you with escrow, they would send him the money first and you'd get it after they received their item.
I would be happy to sell you one directly without escrow to try and help prove myself and that I just want to get these sold, I really appreciate the opportunity, but 1.5 btc is still a lot for me. It may take me longer to sell them this way but at least then I won't have to trust a third party or pay a bunch of fees.
Message me with your price and details then once we get the deal finalized I'll ask that you keep my post here updated to show any potential buyers that you sent me the payment upfront and I shipped the miner the very same day. If I can do a couple smaller deals like that hopefully it will give buyers enough confidence to buy the rest all at once and I can get these sold.
Sell me an L3+ with a power supply. I am in New Jersey.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I would be happy to sell you one directly without escrow to try and help prove myself and that I just want to get these sold, I really appreciate the opportunity, but 1.5 btc is still a lot for me. It may take me longer to sell them this way but at least then I won't have to trust a third party or pay a bunch of fees.
Message me with your price and details then once we get the deal finalized I'll ask that you keep my post here updated to show any potential buyers that you sent me the payment upfront and I shipped the miner the very same day. If I can do a couple smaller deals like that hopefully it will give buyers enough confidence to buy the rest all at once and I can get these sold.
Oh ok. Yeah I would be willing to do that too since it's just one unit.
He's not offering to send you payment up front. He is one of the trusted escrows, he's offering to send you payment after he receives the L3+ from you just like if anyone else bought from you with escrow, they would send him the money first and you'd get it after they received their item.
I would be happy to sell you one directly without escrow to try and help prove myself and that I just want to get these sold, I really appreciate the opportunity, but 1.5 btc is still a lot for me. It may take me longer to sell them this way but at least then I won't have to trust a third party or pay a bunch of fees.
Message me with your price and details then once we get the deal finalized I'll ask that you keep my post here updated to show any potential buyers that you sent me the payment upfront and I shipped the miner the very same day. If I can do a couple smaller deals like that hopefully it will give buyers enough confidence to buy the rest all at once and I can get these sold.
Sell me an L3+ with a power supply. I am in New Jersey.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I would be happy to sell you one directly without escrow to try and help prove myself and that I just want to get these sold, I really appreciate the opportunity, but 1.5 btc is still a lot for me. It may take me longer to sell them this way but at least then I won't have to trust a third party or pay a bunch of fees.
Message me with your price and details then once we get the deal finalized I'll ask that you keep my post here updated to show any potential buyers that you sent me the payment upfront and I shipped the miner the very same day. If I can do a couple smaller deals like that hopefully it will give buyers enough confidence to buy the rest all at once and I can get these sold.
Sell me an L3+ with a power supply. I am in New Jersey.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I would be happy to sell you one directly without escrow to try and help prove myself and that I just want to get these sold, I really appreciate the opportunity, but 1.5 btc is still a lot for me. It may take me longer to sell them this way but at least then I won't have to trust a third party or pay a bunch of fees.
Message me with your price and details then once we get the deal finalized I'll ask that you keep my post here updated to show any potential buyers that you sent me the payment upfront and I shipped the miner the very same day. If I can do a couple smaller deals like that hopefully it will give buyers enough confidence to buy the rest all at once and I can get these sold.
Sell me an L3+ with a power supply. I am in New Jersey.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
I know a very good escrow.
philipma1957 oh wait thats me.
Not trying to be silly about the escrow but If you want to sell one to me for 1300 with a psu I will buy one and self escrow.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
_______________________________________________________________________________ _____________________
Most people won't want to do what you ask.
Say 1 btc in escrow with someone like me and then 3.5 btc trusting you.
I would offer to do this sale in 3x 1.5btc shipments if some wants to buy it all.
Then you the op won't have to trust me for beyond 1.5 btc at anytime.
My escrow fee is 2% so 2% of 4.5 btc = 0.09btc plus tx fees of maybe 0.001 for the 3 part sale.
Still available.
I don't know if anyone messaged me and I didn't receive it because I hit my message limit, but I just purchased a Copper membership so it shouldn't happen anymore, and if I haven't responded to anyone's message please send it again.
Anyway, everything listed is still available. I can't imagine they'll go unsold for long at the price I'm offering... I really don't want them just sitting here collecting dust as you could all imagine.
Your thread is littered with red flags. You are not comfortable with everything! You don’t want to meet up, claiming you wouldn’t be comfortable meeting someone in person? Are you serious? If you want to scam, scam properly. You want coins sent upfront and if buyers are not comfortable with that, they shouldn’t bother messaging you?
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
I don't care what you think, and I don't want 4.5 BTC the "quick and easy way", I said I would use escrow to sell the first few machines so the buyer knows I'm not bullshitting and to put forth some trust, and I'll wait for that escrow deal to go through completely before handling the rest to instill some confidence in the buyer, but I just refuse to trust someone like that for that full amount of money. If you don't like it, too bad. I can't be the only one that feels this way.
Just as easily as I took that photo I could have taken a video proving without a doubt that I'm in possession of these machines. I'll get more photos tomorrow and post them here just to prove you wrong because I don't like when people like you come out and accuse people like that. And it's not about not wanting to reveal my identity, it's not wanting to meet with someone from the internet in real life for my own safety. I don't have to explain myself to you or why I don't want to meet with people in real life, I only did that way other people that are actually interested in buying these can hear what I have to say. What gives you the right to accuse me? Just because you don't like the way I want to do business doesn't mean my post is "littered with red flags", it just means you don't agree.
What are the speeds on those S9? 13TH? 14TH?
I should have included that too, sorry. The S9's are 13.5TH and the L3+'s have been kept stock at 504MH. I don't like overclocking my machines because it decrease their lifespan, generates more heat, more noise, etc.
So yeah, the average 24 hour speed of my L3+'s hovers right around 504 MH/s which is good, and the S9's are new so I haven't plugged them in, but they should be under warranty in case anything is wrong with any of them.
I am interested, need to figure out some numbers on my side. I will be in touch.
Sounds good! I can provide you with more photos or videos or whatever you want when you message me so just let me know.
Your thread is littered with red flags. You are not comfortable with everything! You don’t want to meet up, claiming you wouldn’t be comfortable meeting someone in person? Are you serious? If you want to scam, scam properly. You want coins sent upfront and if buyers are not comfortable with that, they shouldn’t bother messaging you?
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.
Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:
What are the speeds on those S9? 13TH? 14TH?
I should have included that too, sorry. The S9's are 13.5TH and the L3+'s have been kept stock at 504MH. I don't like overclocking my machines because it decrease their lifespan, generates more heat, more noise, etc.
So yeah, the average 24 hour speed of my L3+'s hovers right around 504 MH/s which is good, and the S9's are new so I haven't plugged them in, but they should be under warranty in case anything is wrong with any of them.
I am interested, need to figure out some numbers on my side. I will be in touch.
What are the speeds on those S9? 13TH? 14TH?
I should have included that too, sorry. The S9's are 13.5TH and the L3+'s have been kept stock at 504MH. I don't like overclocking my machines because it decrease their lifespan, generates more heat, more noise, etc.
So yeah, the average 24 hour speed of my L3+'s hovers right around 504 MH/s which is good, and the S9's are new so I haven't plugged them in, but they should be under warranty in case anything is wrong with any of them.
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