Topic: [XBY] XtraBYtes Speculation - page 16. (Read 32665 times)
Wow, your Jesus improved his english and sounds exactly like CCR now. Good work. I thought this was about his account here. Why he does not participate in this conversation instead of posting a copy and paste of him from somewhere else?
borz left the project and deleted any mention of XBY in his profile, looks like the project is taking a dark turn
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borzalom-219999
He doesnt work on xtrabytes any longer
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borzalom-219999
He doesnt work on xtrabytes any longer
No, it's fud. Check XBY Discord https://discordapp.com/invite/YuNdGAy
Screenshot of his update https://imgur.com/a/O3dpmZ0
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10:24 Borzalom: Hi all,
this morning I was made aware of the fact that someone was spreading rumors that I was gone. To substantiate that claim this person said that I had changed my Bitcointalk profile in the past few days, changed the profile picture and removed any mentions of XTRABYTES. Well let me tell you that this could not be further from the truth. I am still actively developing in the background which is what I prefer. As to the bitcointalk profile, I changed the profile picture a long time ago when it was decided that all official communication would be handled by our communications team. I have no desire to use Bitcointalk to communicate, we have other channels for that. I haven't used this account in a very long time and forgot about the changes I made to the profile. But since this makes the people in our community insecure I have changed back my profile picture to the XTRABYTES logo to assure everyone that I am not going anywhere. I am still an active member of the XTRABYTES team. And although I have writen all the technical specifications the real driving force behind the project is our team. I will keep supporting the high level developments but the ultimate goal is to get an entire team of developers involved as soon as this is possible.
We have faced many obstacles already and we will probably face others in the future, but we have no intention to give up and we will overcome all these obstacle to bring something new to the world of blockchain and crypto.
Sincerely,
Borzalom
this morning I was made aware of the fact that someone was spreading rumors that I was gone. To substantiate that claim this person said that I had changed my Bitcointalk profile in the past few days, changed the profile picture and removed any mentions of XTRABYTES. Well let me tell you that this could not be further from the truth. I am still actively developing in the background which is what I prefer. As to the bitcointalk profile, I changed the profile picture a long time ago when it was decided that all official communication would be handled by our communications team. I have no desire to use Bitcointalk to communicate, we have other channels for that. I haven't used this account in a very long time and forgot about the changes I made to the profile. But since this makes the people in our community insecure I have changed back my profile picture to the XTRABYTES logo to assure everyone that I am not going anywhere. I am still an active member of the XTRABYTES team. And although I have writen all the technical specifications the real driving force behind the project is our team. I will keep supporting the high level developments but the ultimate goal is to get an entire team of developers involved as soon as this is possible.
We have faced many obstacles already and we will probably face others in the future, but we have no intention to give up and we will overcome all these obstacle to bring something new to the world of blockchain and crypto.
Sincerely,
Borzalom
borz left the project and deleted any mention of XBY in his profile, looks like the project is taking a dark turn
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borzalom-219999
He doesnt work on xtrabytes any longer
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borzalom-219999
He doesnt work on xtrabytes any longer
EPIC FUD from CCN (Disgruntled ex team member) - You fell for it shit for brains
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borzalom-219999
I still hold around 2000 XBV, hoping the market will improve soon, I hope devs. immediately aggressive by adding new exchanges such as Binance or Hitbtc to make world know XBV.
The volume clearly proves that no one is believing you and your scam, no matter how hard and desperately you are trying to defend it.
It seems coinexchange may delist XBY next
You've got that information from where exactly?
HaHaHa
You fudders need to get your stories straight - you are using 2 different pictures for Zoltan.
Here's the one you posted:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
And some of the other fudders are using this one:
https://imgur.com/a/aL1wF
You fudders need to get your stories straight - you are using 2 different pictures for Zoltan.
Here's the one you posted:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
And some of the other fudders are using this one:
https://imgur.com/a/aL1wF
There is no story to get straight. The 2nd picture was a fake LinkedIn made by either Borz or CCR and uses a stolen identity, considering the real person in that picture is Aron Novak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aronnovak/
And here is the fake one of ‘Zoltan Szabo’ that was set up by Xtrabytes: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/aL1wF
Unsurprisingly, when the team was called out on it, the fake LinkedIn magically disappeared. Imagine that.
More like you guys photoshopped it to FUD
Wouldn't be the first time you have faked things related to Xtrabytes eg. the lame attempt a couple of weeks ago to say the Xtrabytes site had been hacked
Nope, I show you some relevant stuff in this topic:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
Here is your god, maybe you know him, hopefully it is not the first time you see him, but i am pretty sure it is. Nevertheless he claims to have worked for web programmers team llc. Okay, let's take a deeper look into this. First interesting part is, it is said "programmer at WEB programmers team llc".
https://domainbigdata.com/nj/y7vSoceFh6NJwESFnxUy1l_aefLHmKrLkTguFT3C6pw
Now it is getting more interesting, if he was just working for that company, why is the xtrabytes.info domain registered by that company? Pretty safe to say that he did not work for that company but he was that company or at least owns it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140307195558/http://www.web-programmers-team.com/contact
The contact site of their website says Florida in 2014. I thought Borzalom lives in Hungary, at least it was said CCR met him there, though his company is registered in US?
Now we start to make this even funnier. Borzalom is a genius and a so called "Security specialist", right? Look at his website on oct, 16th 2016!
https://web.archive.org/web/20161008204714/http://web-programmers-team.com/
Are you kidding me? The website of this super security specialist was hacked? S E R I O U S L Y ?!?!
DO I HAVE TO GO ON OR IS IT ENOUGH?
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
Here is your god, maybe you know him, hopefully it is not the first time you see him, but i am pretty sure it is. Nevertheless he claims to have worked for web programmers team llc. Okay, let's take a deeper look into this. First interesting part is, it is said "programmer at WEB programmers team llc".
https://domainbigdata.com/nj/y7vSoceFh6NJwESFnxUy1l_aefLHmKrLkTguFT3C6pw
Now it is getting more interesting, if he was just working for that company, why is the xtrabytes.info domain registered by that company? Pretty safe to say that he did not work for that company but he was that company or at least owns it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140307195558/http://www.web-programmers-team.com/contact
The contact site of their website says Florida in 2014. I thought Borzalom lives in Hungary, at least it was said CCR met him there, though his company is registered in US?
Now we start to make this even funnier. Borzalom is a genius and a so called "Security specialist", right? Look at his website on oct, 16th 2016!
https://web.archive.org/web/20161008204714/http://web-programmers-team.com/
Are you kidding me? The website of this super security specialist was hacked? S E R I O U S L Y ?!?!
DO I HAVE TO GO ON OR IS IT ENOUGH?
It seems coinexchange may delist XBY next
HaHaHa
You fudders need to get your stories straight - you are using 2 different pictures for Zoltan.
Here's the one you posted:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
And some of the other fudders are using this one:
https://imgur.com/a/aL1wF
You fudders need to get your stories straight - you are using 2 different pictures for Zoltan.
Here's the one you posted:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
And some of the other fudders are using this one:
https://imgur.com/a/aL1wF
There is no story to get straight. The 2nd picture was a fake LinkedIn made by either Borz or CCR and uses a stolen identity, considering the real person in that picture is Aron Novak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aronnovak/
And here is the fake one of ‘Zoltan Szabo’ that was set up by Xtrabytes: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/aL1wF
Unsurprisingly, when the team was called out on it, the fake LinkedIn magically disappeared. Imagine that.
HaHaHa
You fudders need to get your stories straight - you are using 2 different pictures for Zoltan.
Here's the one you posted:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
And some of the other fudders are using this one:
https://imgur.com/a/aL1wF
You fudders need to get your stories straight - you are using 2 different pictures for Zoltan.
Here's the one you posted:
https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0024/99/1497829706493.png
And some of the other fudders are using this one:
https://imgur.com/a/aL1wF
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You know that is how most crypto projects start out - by forking and then developing before moving to their own chain. Including your beloved Cardano I believe.
No, you are wrong with Cardano, but does not matter. You are wrong with XtraBytes as well. Since there is no development done so far, sticking with a Bitcoin fork without the proof of work removed is no common practice.
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Just 2 years of regular conversations with devs and other people working on the project.
Show me a conversation you had with this Borzalom guy. He is the only one with access to the code, so so he is the only developer that plays a role. Calling the programmers of the modules developers is misleading.
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There are multiple recordings of him online.
Again misleading. There are few some sound recordings of him speaking as a guy who has a stroke and no one understands what he is talking about. There is no name, no picture, no former work, nothing. You take this as an evidence to make a reasonable investment?
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You clearly made that one up.
Sure, down to 122 sats made you a lot of money probably. xD
Bitcointalk:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borzalom-219999
Latest post (from january 2018!):
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Here is the last valid richlist of top 3000:
http://borzalom.hu/richlist.html
The sum of first 3000 is 649,990,240 XBY
If you found mistake then please send me the detailed list of related transactions.
http://borzalom.hu/richlist.html
The sum of first 3000 is 649,990,240 XBY
If you found mistake then please send me the detailed list of related transactions.
Yep. I’ve been asking about this. Unsurprisingly, I have yet to receive any answer. It’s an html document. View the source. It’s just an html data table -
Ha-ha-ha! Stupiedest FUD, total trash
FUD posts like this shows incompetence of fudsters.Don't like this particular richlist, use this rich list https://xtrabytes.global/richlist transfer some XBY and check TX in block explorer to see how it's working. It's very easy.
Of course, you didn’t address the actual topic, as usual for the XBY team. My point still stands. I don’t care about what exists now. I care about what existed at the time. At the time that Borz posted that richlist, he claimed it was dynamic and updated automatically every 60 seconds, which is a complete lie. It’s an html document with a static table with no sources. It doesn’t pull from anything, thus cannot be dynamic.
What exists now is beside the point. This shows that Borz is a liar, and no liar lies just once. So, what else is a complete lie?
Ha-ha-ha! You have no idea how coding can be done and how data can be phrased. Read about SSI (Server Side Includes) for example.
This is only one of the methods, there are many others.
You’re right. There are. Sure, SSI if you’re stuck in the 90s. I can’t fathom why anyone would use SSI over PHP in 2019, especially considering the subject matter. Either way, it doesn’t much matter considering the initial rich list doesn’t use either of them, nor does it use any other language. It is solely html. So I don’t understand what your point is.
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It's called having patience
Patience is not the same as blind believe. Investing into Cardano is an investment that needs patience, investing into XtraBytes is blind belief.
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And let's not forget Borz is Hungarian not English, so his English is far from perfect.
Not forget? It is unknown if this guy exists and even if he exists, it is not proven if he is still working on XtraBytes since he did not posted by himself for many months! Everything said about this anonymous guy is hearsay of other anonymous guys. This is no basement for any investment. Especially if there is nothing released of his work for two years.
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What does it tell you about the people running XBY
They are running a Bitcoin fork with PoW removed for two years, that is what the project is. Not sure what this is proving so far.
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You are clearly very immature and have a lot to learn in life.
You bought all the way down for years without any release of substance so far and you are the one sticking now with heavy bags probably with a loss of like 80%. It seems to me that you are the one who needs to learn something.
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Patience is not the same as blind believe. Investing into Cardano is an investment that needs patience, investing into XtraBytes is blind belief.
No blind belief here. Just 2 years of regular conversations with devs and other people working on the project.
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Not forget? It is unknown if this guy exists and even if he exists
lol. Tin foil hat time. There are multiple recordings of him online. There are numerous people on the team interacting him on a daily/weekly basis. There is some of his code in a public GitHub.
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They are running a Bitcoin fork with PoW removed for two years, that is what the project is
You know that is how most crypto projects start out - by forking and then developing before moving to their own chain. Including your beloved Cardano I believe.
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You bought all the way down for years without any release of substance so far and you are the one sticking now with heavy bags probably with a loss of like 80%.
You clearly made that one up.
I know you will fire back at this with some nonsense and me replying is pointless. Replying to people like you is the same as trying to talk to flat earth's or anti-vaxers. COMPLETELY POINTLESS.
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It's called having patience
Patience is not the same as blind believe. Investing into Cardano is an investment that needs patience, investing into XtraBytes is blind belief.
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And let's not forget Borz is Hungarian not English, so his English is far from perfect.
Not forget? It is unknown if this guy exists and even if he exists, it is not proven if he is still working on XtraBytes since he did not posted by himself for many months! Everything said about this anonymous guy is hearsay of other anonymous guys. This is no basement for any investment. Especially if there is nothing released of his work for two years.
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What does it tell you about the people running XBY
They are running a Bitcoin fork with PoW removed for two years, that is what the project is. Not sure what this is proving so far.
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You are clearly very immature and have a lot to learn in life.
You bought all the way down for years without any release of substance so far and you are the one sticking now with heavy bags probably with a loss of like 80%. It seems to me that you are the one who needs to learn something.
No one on the internet is trustworthy. This is known by everyone. But you defend someone who can not prove anything and who tries to stay anonymous. You even invest money I to this and though you agree with the fundamentals of the critics, you still defend this. That only leaves two results. Either you are a team member or you bags are so heavy that you got no chance left than hoping for a dumber guy buying your bags.
You are no investor in XtraBytes and therefore a patent in the hands of XtraBytes is no benefit for you. If you had shares I would agree but you have coins. Your coins do not reflect the value of the company in any way. There will be no company interested to invest into this blockchain that solves no problem. Beside the unrealistic claims, those claims do not solve a problem any company needs a solution for. Why should any company buy XtraBytes coins? This way of thinking is completely wrong and far from reality. As you can already see, no one cares about that super mega wallet. It does not matter if it is well made. Volume increased and price fell. People are selling, not buying, though you think your wallet would be a great release...
Be reasonable and do not llure more people into this. Take your loss and accept your own dumb decision buying into this. Anything else is totally wrong behaviour.
You are no investor in XtraBytes and therefore a patent in the hands of XtraBytes is no benefit for you. If you had shares I would agree but you have coins. Your coins do not reflect the value of the company in any way. There will be no company interested to invest into this blockchain that solves no problem. Beside the unrealistic claims, those claims do not solve a problem any company needs a solution for. Why should any company buy XtraBytes coins? This way of thinking is completely wrong and far from reality. As you can already see, no one cares about that super mega wallet. It does not matter if it is well made. Volume increased and price fell. People are selling, not buying, though you think your wallet would be a great release...
Be reasonable and do not llure more people into this. Take your loss and accept your own dumb decision buying into this. Anything else is totally wrong behaviour.
It's called having patience Sabih and not listening to people like you. You are clearly very immature and have a lot to learn in life.
If you actually looked at the patent I posted(which was posted by Ashley who wrote the XBY patents) you can see the complexity and the work required to complete them. And let's not forget Borz is Hungarian not English, so his English is far from perfect. There are also more than one. Yes deadlines have been missed and they should not have given timelines but impatient people were constantly asking for dates. I think they have learned this lesson.
What does it tell you about the people running XBY that, despite all the FUD they have been getting from people like you, and the continual slide in price they have continued along the same path to protect what they feel is very good tech?
No one on the internet is trustworthy. This is known by everyone. But you defend someone who can not prove anything and who tries to stay anonymous. You even invest money I to this and though you agree with the fundamentals of the critics, you still defend this. That only leaves two results. Either you are a team member or you bags are so heavy that you got no chance left than hoping for a dumber guy buying your bags.
You are no investor in XtraBytes and therefore a patent in the hands of XtraBytes is no benefit for you. If you had shares I would agree but you have coins. Your coins do not reflect the value of the company in any way. There will be no company interested to invest into this blockchain that solves no problem. Beside the unrealistic claims, those claims do not solve a problem any company needs a solution for. Why should any company buy XtraBytes coins? This way of thinking is completely wrong and far from reality. As you can already see, no one cares about that super mega wallet. It does not matter if it is well made. Volume increased and price fell. People are selling, not buying, though you think your wallet would be a great release...
Be reasonable and do not llure more people into this. Take your loss and accept your own dumb decision buying into this. Anything else is totally wrong behaviour.
You are no investor in XtraBytes and therefore a patent in the hands of XtraBytes is no benefit for you. If you had shares I would agree but you have coins. Your coins do not reflect the value of the company in any way. There will be no company interested to invest into this blockchain that solves no problem. Beside the unrealistic claims, those claims do not solve a problem any company needs a solution for. Why should any company buy XtraBytes coins? This way of thinking is completely wrong and far from reality. As you can already see, no one cares about that super mega wallet. It does not matter if it is well made. Volume increased and price fell. People are selling, not buying, though you think your wallet would be a great release...
Be reasonable and do not llure more people into this. Take your loss and accept your own dumb decision buying into this. Anything else is totally wrong behaviour.
Some interesting "facts" there.
Patent was promised in Jan 2018 to be done - It was never promised in Jan 2018 to be completed
CCR hoped it would be by April 2018 - This is true
It's may 2019 and no patent - This is true
XCite is in Alpha / Beta - This is true
Execs joined and left - This is true
CCR owns 1/7th of the XBY supply - Not sure how you would know that or anyone for that matter.
Cryptopia closed down with 150m XBY missing - Its 130 million but close.
CCR tries to hype without substance - Well he hypes because he knows what they have.
Most of the team are in the dark AFAIK about the patents - This is mostly true
CCR isn't trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
Borz Isn't trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
JamesH is okay - A bit subjective not really a fact.
Supremegoose isnt trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
reclusiarh isnt trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
fishfishfish313 is a liar -
?
there were no patents when the patent process was started in late 2017 - True. Strange fact.
CCR was an MLM scammer - There is no evidence he has scammed anyone. I have searched and cannot find anyone on the internet who is complaining about being scammed by him.
Borz has 2 other failed projects - He hasn't hid these - he even has the code in his public Github
Patent pending typically takes around 7 months to 1 year at most to obtain (it requires a simple submission) - lol simple submission. See below from Ashley who wrote the patents that are being filed:
For those who are not familiar with patents take a look at one I have attached the link to, notice that the legal team have referenced over 200 other patents. Multiply this example by eight, add a complexity factor of 500% and you have a good idea why patents are fluid and unpredictable.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/38/c5/14/9af84afe318fb9/US9569771.pdf
Maybe the dialogue may want to shift to what will make the XTRABYTES platform sustainable, considering how people and companies with significant investments in other technology will react. As an investor, I am more interested in how XTRABTYES plan to protect their technology, other than patents?
Patent was promised in Jan 2018 to be done - It was never promised in Jan 2018 to be completed
CCR hoped it would be by April 2018 - This is true
It's may 2019 and no patent - This is true
XCite is in Alpha / Beta - This is true
Execs joined and left - This is true
CCR owns 1/7th of the XBY supply - Not sure how you would know that or anyone for that matter.
Cryptopia closed down with 150m XBY missing - Its 130 million but close.
CCR tries to hype without substance - Well he hypes because he knows what they have.
Most of the team are in the dark AFAIK about the patents - This is mostly true
CCR isn't trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
Borz Isn't trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
JamesH is okay - A bit subjective not really a fact.
Supremegoose isnt trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
reclusiarh isnt trustworthy - A bit subjective not really a fact.
fishfishfish313 is a liar -
?there were no patents when the patent process was started in late 2017 - True. Strange fact.
CCR was an MLM scammer - There is no evidence he has scammed anyone. I have searched and cannot find anyone on the internet who is complaining about being scammed by him.
Borz has 2 other failed projects - He hasn't hid these - he even has the code in his public Github
Patent pending typically takes around 7 months to 1 year at most to obtain (it requires a simple submission) - lol simple submission. See below from Ashley who wrote the patents that are being filed:
For those who are not familiar with patents take a look at one I have attached the link to, notice that the legal team have referenced over 200 other patents. Multiply this example by eight, add a complexity factor of 500% and you have a good idea why patents are fluid and unpredictable.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/38/c5/14/9af84afe318fb9/US9569771.pdf
Maybe the dialogue may want to shift to what will make the XTRABYTES platform sustainable, considering how people and companies with significant investments in other technology will react. As an investor, I am more interested in how XTRABTYES plan to protect their technology, other than patents?
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