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jr. member
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In XBY we trust
April 25, 2019, 06:16:37 AM

* KYC for STATIC nodes. This is of course an attack surface and causes the project to be even more centralized. And isn't it ironic that we all must respect the founders' right to anonymity, while they themselves impose KYC on others.
* A flat 10% fee for setting up a STATIC node. The company in other words hang on like a leech to the blockchain, siphoning funds.
* Various fees for building dapps, on trademark usage, and on patents and patent technologies. What developer teams would like to pay all this? None. They will build on other platforms like ETH.
* TRUST scores for STATIC nodes. This will be gameable. The more parameters included to calculate a trust score, the higher the probability of someone gaming the system which again makes the chain more centralized.
* Issuance of XIP tokens means even more money to founders/team members. Issuing XFUEL from thin air was not enough, the greed doesnt stop. Investors, look out for a fourth token for even more value dilution.

Even with the best mobile wallet in the world, the project can't run away from these bad fundamentals.


This is all not final as I understand. As you can see there are notices under sensitive plans

Example https://blog.xtrabytes.global/xtrabytes/xby-technology/statics-and-more/

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What is the estimated rewards percentage?
The founders have designed a system that provides exceptional flexibility and maximum payouts to the STATIC owners. As such, it utilizes a rewards system that initially pays 100% of all fees to the STATIC network.

Internally, the XTRABYTES corporations will earn money through licensing fees. By doing so, we will not have to adjust payout percentages for STATIC owners.

Every Dapp, protected element, and the tech itself will have licensing fees attached to it. For example:

Use of patents or patent pending technologies will require a base fee of 10-25% of the fees received by your STATIC node.
Each Dapp you host will result in a fee of 5-15% of the fees generated by the Dapp.
Trademark usage will be covered by a 2-7% fee charged against all fees received by your STATIC node.
Corporate and legal expenses will be covered by an additional 1-3% fee based on all activity and fees generated by your STATIC node.
Please note that the statements above are subject to change as they’re simply examples. While we believe they’re realistic, they will not be finalized until further review.

As you can see "Please note that the statements above are subject to change as they’re simply examples. While we believe they’re realistic, they will not be finalized until further review.", that means they want to hear a community feedback, and make an ajustments based on community opinion and node holders.

Same here https://blog.xtrabytes.global/xtrabytes/xby-community/governance-model-introduction/

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Proposed Governance Model:

Do I have to explain you what "Proposed" word means?

KYC for example is something I personally don't like as well. But I can live with that.


 

Good post sir!

Sabih is an obvious aggressive fudster and manipulator, and he's pretending to be stupid when he wants, and usually spreading misinformation and nothing else, and repeting the same trash over and over again. Don't waste your time.
newbie
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March 09, 2019, 06:47:08 PM
CCRevolution: No updates at this time Jabber. Nothing gets forgotten about and swept under the rug. MasterA, we are patenting the technology to prevent stealing the technogy that Borzalom is bringing to the crypto world. So, the short answer is; no we will not release the source code.

I hope you enjoy your MLM pyramid scam coin @ XBY hodlers.
jr. member
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April 25, 2019, 06:10:41 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoTechnology/comments/8e5xm7/xtrabytes_posign_code_150_lines_of_c_for_review/

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It's mostly a copy of the Bitcoin code as you noted, a few mentions of "PoSign" were added but I didn't manage to find any complete definition of the functions. There are actually some comments like //FIXME or functions that don't seem to do anything. It feels like the Bitcoin code with PoW disabled basically.

https://www.reddit.com/r/XtraBYtes/comments/a8k85g/moderators_of_xby_how_many_of_you_have_seen_the/

Hm, there is no confirmation that anyone had access to the code. It was said that Allen and Ashley got access, but both have no professional portfolio of anything related to programming to approve something. I can not find anything related to these so called 12 developers having access to the revolutionary blockchain technology.

This leads me back to my basic question, what exactly are you defending. It it hard to believe you are not involved but defending this. Without any facts given, you are part of the scam. Any reasonable investor would prefer the truth being revealed instead of defending an empty project.

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The XCITE client can be easily switched to the new blockchain, read about SSS https://github.com/XTRABYTES/SSS

Impossible to approve this rumour. Since there is no technology released this is just empty words you need to believe, and this is going for more than 2 years now.
newbie
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April 25, 2019, 06:01:54 AM
Correct me if I am wrong. The current blockchain is a bitcoin fork with proof of work removed or like you say, the old Bitmox scam blockchain. After two years, now, you accomplished releasing a client for this old blockchain technology, while claiming for two years, your only one developer, who is anonymous but known to be a web developer in his former life, has invented a revolutionary blockchain technology. But instead of releasing this technology you prefer to patent it which did not happen for the last two years. No one ever had access to that code or can even verify it to exist.

So your client, you have released or are about to release is still based on that old Bitmox scam blockchain or better said Bitcoin fork with PoW removed, because those developers have no access to your new revolutionay technology, if it even exists.

Tell me, if this sounds reasonable for you and explain it in detail. If I am wrong, correct me with verifiable proofs, not just empty words.


lol yeah he is a web dev but managed to alter the bitcoin code to remove the pow element and replace it with a non mining algo. I would say that makes his skill level a bit above a web dev.
newbie
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March 04, 2019, 12:13:48 PM
blame dave, he himself pumped and dumped this coin, delivered nothing in 2 years and now wants to pump it again with patent pending (and nothing to show for it) and dump on you guys again. Only if you're mentally challenged (or whatever the pc word for it is) will you fall for this scam again
newbie
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April 25, 2019, 05:55:54 AM
1 developer? They have 12 developers https://xtrabytes.global/team

The XCITE client can be easily switched to the new blockchain, read about SSS https://github.com/XTRABYTES/SSS

Old patched Bitmox blockchain code is just like ERC20 token, before mainnet launch. Why you don't understand it?
jr. member
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April 25, 2019, 05:36:22 AM
Correct me if I am wrong. The current blockchain is a bitcoin fork with proof of work removed or like you say, the old Bitmox scam blockchain. After two years, now, you accomplished releasing a client for this old blockchain technology, while claiming for two years, your only one developer, who is anonymous but known to be a web developer in his former life, has invented a revolutionary blockchain technology. But instead of releasing this technology you prefer to patent it which did not happen for the last two years. No one ever had access to that code or can even verify it to exist.

So your client, you have released or are about to release is still based on that old Bitmox scam blockchain or better said Bitcoin fork with PoW removed, because those developers have no access to your new revolutionay technology, if it even exists.

Tell me, if this sounds reasonable for you and explain it in detail. If I am wrong, correct me with verifiable proofs, not just empty words.
newbie
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March 03, 2019, 12:39:44 PM
this project will remain a scam until dave is gone...you do realize that Dave just wants patent pending so he can dump his bags on you all right?
newbie
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April 25, 2019, 05:26:13 AM
Who cares about that mobile wallet, honestly?

Who needs a blockchain platform without usable client? Imagine XTRABYTES will launch mainnet now, and now what? How it will be usable without a client? How people will interact with a blockchain?

You have no idea what XCITE is, you have no clear understanding of the goals of XTRABYTES.

It's a mobile wallet. I have been in crypto for years without ever using one. Most people use desktop- or web wallets.

XCITE is a cross-paltform client. I'm currently helping to beta test mobile version of the client (it's cool by the way). Read about XCITE to understand it's purpose https://github.com/XTRABYTES/XCITE 

Just to store xby they have a paper wallet, and it's available ages ago https://paperwallet.xtrabytes.global
newbie
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April 25, 2019, 05:16:29 AM

* KYC for STATIC nodes. This is of course an attack surface and causes the project to be even more centralized. And isn't it ironic that we all must respect the founders' right to anonymity, while they themselves impose KYC on others.
* A flat 10% fee for setting up a STATIC node. The company in other words hang on like a leech to the blockchain, siphoning funds.
* Various fees for building dapps, on trademark usage, and on patents and patent technologies. What developer teams would like to pay all this? None. They will build on other platforms like ETH.
* TRUST scores for STATIC nodes. This will be gameable. The more parameters included to calculate a trust score, the higher the probability of someone gaming the system which again makes the chain more centralized.
* Issuance of XIP tokens means even more money to founders/team members. Issuing XFUEL from thin air was not enough, the greed doesnt stop. Investors, look out for a fourth token for even more value dilution.

Even with the best mobile wallet in the world, the project can't run away from these bad fundamentals.


This is all not final as I understand. As you can see there are notices under sensitive plans

Example https://blog.xtrabytes.global/xtrabytes/xby-technology/statics-and-more/

Quote
What is the estimated rewards percentage?
The founders have designed a system that provides exceptional flexibility and maximum payouts to the STATIC owners. As such, it utilizes a rewards system that initially pays 100% of all fees to the STATIC network.

Internally, the XTRABYTES corporations will earn money through licensing fees. By doing so, we will not have to adjust payout percentages for STATIC owners.

Every Dapp, protected element, and the tech itself will have licensing fees attached to it. For example:

Use of patents or patent pending technologies will require a base fee of 10-25% of the fees received by your STATIC node.
Each Dapp you host will result in a fee of 5-15% of the fees generated by the Dapp.
Trademark usage will be covered by a 2-7% fee charged against all fees received by your STATIC node.
Corporate and legal expenses will be covered by an additional 1-3% fee based on all activity and fees generated by your STATIC node.
Please note that the statements above are subject to change as they’re simply examples. While we believe they’re realistic, they will not be finalized until further review.

As you can see "Please note that the statements above are subject to change as they’re simply examples. While we believe they’re realistic, they will not be finalized until further review.", that means they want to hear a community feedback, and make an ajustments based on community opinion and node holders.

Same here https://blog.xtrabytes.global/xtrabytes/xby-community/governance-model-introduction/

Quote
Proposed Governance Model:

Do I have to explain you what "Proposed" word means?

KYC for example is something I personally don't like as well. But I can live with that.


 
jr. member
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April 25, 2019, 05:03:46 AM
Who cares about that mobile wallet, honestly?

Who needs a blockchain platform without usable client? Imagine XTRABYTES will launch mainnet now, and now what? How it will be usable without a client? How people will interact with a blockchain?

You have no idea what XCITE is, you have no clear understanding of the goals of XTRABYTES.

It's a mobile wallet. I have been in crypto for years without ever using one. Most people use desktop- or web wallets.
newbie
Activity: 115
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April 25, 2019, 04:48:23 AM
Who cares about that mobile wallet, honestly?

Who needs a blockchain platform without usable client? Imagine XTRABYTES will launch mainnet now, and now what? How it will be usable without a client? How people will interact with a blockchain?

You have no idea what XCITE is, you have no clear understanding of the goals of XTRABYTES.
hero member
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April 25, 2019, 04:26:21 AM
The biggest scam in crypto, is people who call non-scam projects a scam.
Some easily judge without knowing the project, they just simply check the price and the volume, if it does not pass on their standard, they call it shitcoins or scam coins. That's normal I guess, we just have to do it based on our own decision and don't listen to other people's judgement.
jr. member
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April 25, 2019, 03:45:25 AM
Who cares about that mobile wallet, honestly? All the scam accusations aside, Xtrabytes is now going forward with:


* KYC for STATIC nodes. This is of course an attack surface and causes the project to be even more centralized. And isn't it ironic that we all must respect the founders' right to anonymity, while they themselves impose KYC on others.
* A flat 10% fee for setting up a STATIC node. The company in other words hang on like a leech to the blockchain, siphoning funds.
* Various fees for building dapps, on trademark usage, and on patents and patent technologies. What developer teams would like to pay all this? None. They will build on other platforms like ETH.
* TRUST scores for STATIC nodes. This will be gameable. The more parameters included to calculate a trust score, the higher the probability of someone gaming the system which again makes the chain more centralized.
* Issuance of XIP tokens means even more money to founders/team members. Issuing XFUEL from thin air was not enough, the greed doesnt stop. Investors, look out for a fourth token for even more value dilution.

Even with the best mobile wallet in the world, the project can't run away from these bad fundamentals.
newbie
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April 25, 2019, 03:07:47 AM
BDRatings Sabih fapnnap

Go help to beta test XCITE, it's cool! https://twitter.com/XTRABYTES/status/1121153803976347648

BDRatings Sabih this update may change your opinion https://blog.xtrabytes.global/xtrabytes/xby-modules/the-latest-news-at-xtrabytes/
jr. member
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In XBY we trust
April 25, 2019, 02:23:36 AM
The biggest scam in crypto, is people who call non-scam projects a scam.
jr. member
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April 24, 2019, 04:51:18 PM
Defending a project that has no significantly release ever made is far from any reasonable behaviour and is obviously anything related to a scam. It just makes no sense being emotionally involvement that much without anything existing so far to defend it that hard and ignoring all facts so far. This alone is the biggest red flag. And XtraBytes has a suspicious high number of fanboys with nothing released in the same time. What are you defending?
jr. member
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April 24, 2019, 01:37:52 PM
4chan is not the source, that's just where some links were posted a while back. Wayback Machine, the Internet Archive's web archive, holds all the evidence you need. In other words, you don't have to trust me, or anyone else for that matter - that is what _evidence_ means.

I really don't get why you are so agitated. Getting all the facts out to the public is a good thing.
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January 03, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
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April 24, 2019, 10:40:40 AM
Ha-ha! Made my day! This so called bdratings, managed by anonymous induvidual, with 4chain as a main source for research is amazing! Very serious source, accurate ratings, strong analytics! Who needs CT when we have BDSRatings now Cheesy
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