Topic: [XCR] Crypti | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store | OPEN SOURCE | 100% own code | DPoS - page 19. (Read 804688 times)

Ok,

So be it. I will convert 90% of my stake to LISK. I won't however, support that project with any of my time or money. I think MAX and OLIVIER really messed up - morally, that is a shitty way to go about everything.

Thanks GreXX, for your time and effort.

In response to whether or not the Crypti Foundation team is transitioning to Lisk, I can only speak for myself. I will not be moving on in any form of official capacity. I will stop in from time to time as a community member to check up on the project, as I have invested a ton of myself into building the core network technology and overall concept, but I won't at any point be on the team for my own personal reasons.

Boris is the only one I know was officially approached and offered the opportunity to join in an official advisory like capacity that I am aware of. That's not to say they couldn't have PM'ed others and reached out, but I am unaware of it if they did.

For sure its not pretty but what can you do? Crypti foundation had a plan for the dapp fundraising. They had no idea Max/Olivier were going to do this.

I guess after going over their options its pretty obvious Crypti can't compete and if Lisk is offering a conversion for xcr and want to take over.

The foundation is like, ok you wanna do all the work from now on and think you can succeed? Go for it, we're tired.

If don't want to see Eth as the only platform, consider supporting Lisk better than we had Crypti.

For the record, Mike and I approached the Lisk team about an Airdrop and a possible way for how it would work. Max had already decided he wanted to go the manner outlined in their blog post instead. Fortunately, the 1300 Satoshi conversion is a favorable rate. We really wanted to avoid the dilution problem, but this is the best option they are going to offer as of right now. If you want to address the issue of the airdrop, you could head over to their chat or their BTT thread and bring it up and propose a possible solution. At the end of the day, what they are offering is a pretty good deal from my perspective.

The Crypti Foundation built what we set out to make and more. I wish we had continued funds and community support enough to market, build a stronger community, and commission some great dapps, but that simply isn't the case. With that being said, keep in mind that anyone can continue Crypti. The tech, website, and all materials will now be 100% open source and the network can easily be run forever if people are willing to run it. A project like this could never have existed without community support and development, and we simply didn't get the support and interest we had expected. Part of that is lack of marketing efforts, part of that is the immense machine that is Eth.

If we were able to go back, there are 100s of things we would probably do differently, but I am still happy with how far we have come and what we were able to accomplish on a fraction of the budget of other projects.

For fucks sake:

http://pastebin.com/y7y5g3mq

READ!

I suppose I'm still not sure what "support" will mean - if XCR team really does move on full time on to LISK, then it will be a real travesty to not airdrop to the legacy XCR crowd. Every investor would just prefer to have a diluted stake in LISK as opposed to holding the bag of a protocol with no devs working on it.

I'm sorry, but that IS just a name change and new ICO hoping to score more cash in a way that totally devastates all investors in XCR. It would be unconscionable.

Didn't you read what REALLY happened? A tool developing guy and a PR guy left Crypti and forked it. That's all. Crypti team has no problems with that, and why would they? It's an opensource project, anybody can fork it.

I didn't create the account yesterday. I rarely post obv. But is like something wrong with your reading comprehension?

All of this is in the chat. You said you read it? Maybe you have multiple personality and the other you read it.

Its all a little complicated so maybe I am not 100% accurate. But the bottom line is, Crypti foundation is no longer

continuing and is fully supporting Lisk. Most of the foundation members are moving on to other things.

And Max is waiting for Boris to decide what kind of role he might want to play in Lisk if any.

Its all in the public chat, geez.

What two teams? The XCR foundation are supporting Lisk. There won't be two groups after the ICO, it'll just be Lisk, really.

Whether that is a good or bad thing is up for debate. But there is no feasible way for XCR to survive after the ICO. It's a choice of either selling your XCR to others (who logically will trade them in for Lisk) or converting Lisk yourself. Just holding onto XCR past the ICO makes no sense at all.

As for no community, that really was the problem with XCR all along. If the ICO can get outside investors, then it has a chance. If not... there will be a lot of Lisk dumping post-ICO.

A newbie making statement about core team plans without any proof is very reliable.

I think MAX and OLIVIER really put the XCR team in a tough spot. I'm just not comfortable with where either project is headed at this stage. I'm just bothered that you have bag holders (who likely have a share smaller than mine, btw) trying to PUMP this as a good thing. LOL. That is laughable. I'd prefer LISK and XCR to integrate and airdrop 25% to legacy XCR holders or SOMETHING. Having two groups now moving forward with something that has this little community support is just a waste of everyone's time (I can afford the losses and the time wasted, but can the devs?)  

Yes, I can convert my XCR to LISK, but, that still leaves two teams fighting over almost no community and support. The project(s) just look desperate now.

Are you also stupid? What relaunch are you talking about? Lisk is a fork of Crypti. If you call any fork a relaunch then Bitcoin has been relaucnhed hundreds of times by now.

dzarmush, you're not getting it. Crypti is now Lisk. The Crypti founders including Boris who "was" Crypti, agreed they can't continue. Their only hope

is to put all their support to Max and Olivier for the original Crypti dream to continue. Naturally they will convert their xcr to Lisk so all their work

will be rewarded should Lisk succeed. After Lisk launches, Crypti will be supported for like 6 months? Anybody is free to continue Crypti as its open source but why?

Lisk will be the new Crypti for better or worse.

Guys if you think we still have an Eth killer or at the very least a chance to take a big slice of Eth pie, don't sell any xcr for less than 1200 sats.

I just hope the ico can raise enough btc.

I have to agree with rtrtcrypto. You can't relaunch what is essentially the same project with a new ICO and expect people to have more confidence that you'll achieve what you set out to do this time around. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

If you're so sure that both projects are doomed why wouldn't you just dump all coins you have at any price possible. It's better than lose everything. Just don't forget to take a look at both coins price in a few months from now. It would be a good life lesson to you.

You win. You must be an outright troll. Welcome to my ignore list.
As a last comment to you - yes, this all is GREAT news for investors and XCR! MUCH WOW!   Can't wait for more of this great news to rain down on us.

You can't read? Then ask someone to read you my post.

I buy on Polo. There are always weak hands that dump at low prices. You are eager to sell, so I most likely will be able to buy at 600-700 satoshi from you on Polo. And then invest it in Lisk at 1300 satoshi.

I think that this whole thing will only bring good for everybody: both coins teams and their investors. Success of Crypti would bring more attention to its forks. Success of its forks would bring more attention to the original coin - Crypti. And now when Crypti team has a competitor I hope they'll start marketing in addition to amazing development work which is obvoiusly not enough for success. Crypti is better than Ethereum at this point but way cheaper because lack of marketing.

What is "more mention"? I'm really confused, you might be the stupidest person I've seen yet on this forum - please, try to comprehend the things you are reading. Since you believe in the project so much, go ahead and buy my stake in it. I am one of the largest holders.

Will be glad to escrow through someone and we can both be happy - show your support of XCR with more than empty words.

Otherwise, get out of the way so grown-ups can have a meaningful space to work out the problems that MAX and OLIVIER have caused the community in the last 3-4 days.

Your attempt to have more attention by using more space in your posts and answering on top of other post instead of regular forum rules is hilarious.





None of your words prove anything by the way. "They took a roadmap!!! OMG!!! They took damn roadmap.". Now Crypti is ruined.

It is not about "relaunch", it's about the fact that the XCR is going to fully support (even help) the LISK team. What are you not getting about this? I don't care what they call it, MAX and Olivier decided to fork XCR with a roadmap that was/is similar to XCR - now XCR has no chance of funds and has their roadmap taken by a fork with up to date code.
The XCR team decided they won't survive on their own and will support the fork strategically. I'm not sure why even continue on two fronts then, just follow the team over to LISK.
If LISK takes off, XCR is an out-of-date fork. If LISK fails, XCR is still insolvent as a foundation (or whatever, they can afford 6 months of helping keep DPOS going).

Max and Olivier pretty much torpedoed the project - period.

You don't want to call it a relaunch, no problem, I won't/wouldn't call it that either... it's much worse than that. LISK now has the XCR devs working/helping them FOR FREE. Who will develop XCR further? Well, according to devs, their work is almost DONE. So, XCR is what it is more or less. What "that" that is amounts to a DPOS system that could not even muster up enough interest to secure the chain.

Shall I continue?