Hey! are we below ipo price? 
yes 
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October 16, 2014, 06:21:54 AM
October 16, 2014, 06:17:48 AM
After two days of happy forging my node got out of sync and could not recover by itself 
It's a pity devs again failed to deliver a stable client.
Blockchain loading after restart still is very very slow - more than hour
Hey! are we below ipo price?
It's a pity devs again failed to deliver a stable client.
Blockchain loading after restart still is very very slow - more than hour
Hey! are we below ipo price?
October 16, 2014, 06:13:21 AM
Is forging working?
October 16, 2014, 05:41:18 AM
Thank you whoever dumped it to an all time low last night 
Now my bag is almost 2 million XCR. I still have full faith in the project!
Lucky guy Now my bag is almost 2 million XCR. I still have full faith in the project!
October 16, 2014, 05:31:41 AM
Thank you whoever dumped it to an all time low last night
https://i.imgur.com/tTxuWKD.png
Now my bag is almost 2 million XCR. I still have full faith in the project!
https://i.imgur.com/tTxuWKD.png
Now my bag is almost 2 million XCR. I still have full faith in the project!
October 16, 2014, 03:57:24 AM
Don't worry, everything is good. lf u believe in Crypti, then u should be happy. We don't need dumpers and manipulators in community. Let them dump and leave this project. We should clean community from that kind of people, and after we will have strongest community ever. 
October 16, 2014, 03:41:44 AM
crypti in 500 satosher what dev think? do design next 4 weeks lol wtfer drunk?
seroous? ok frend, i onl have 11000 xcr but am out projict,focus wrong thing,600 satosher and what we are hope for invester ? nice logo safe us !
yor damn selfes not even want buy xcr !
no invester regard, for get me or new invester monies worth.
sad guys ,i can put order 1 sat for desperate invester ,when guys tired of waiting imba logo 1 month as save ! shame on you dev !
am invester for ipo ,now am better for playing pamper dumper and sell fast since no care yar invester ! prize lowers than ipo.
no winner here cept developer monies , tell how any invester happy , and now they will wait for imba logo ?
only volume is dumpsters ,leave happy invester sad ! you see only volume dumpster , think peoples piss they pants for logo ??
omg !
seroous? ok frend, i onl have 11000 xcr but am out projict,focus wrong thing,600 satosher and what we are hope for invester ? nice logo safe us !
yor damn selfes not even want buy xcr !
no invester regard, for get me or new invester monies worth.
sad guys ,i can put order 1 sat for desperate invester ,when guys tired of waiting imba logo 1 month as save ! shame on you dev !
am invester for ipo ,now am better for playing pamper dumper and sell fast since no care yar invester ! prize lowers than ipo.
no winner here cept developer monies , tell how any invester happy , and now they will wait for imba logo ?
only volume is dumpsters ,leave happy invester sad ! you see only volume dumpster , think peoples piss they pants for logo ??
omg !
Reading your post hurts my brain.
Anyway XCR will get to its full glory it just takes some time.
October 16, 2014, 03:27:05 AM
If it is not the dev dump, I think it is fine,just some one control the price because of the low volume.
October 16, 2014, 02:52:44 AM
Not much buy orders until 620 sats. perhaps that guy put a buy order of 1btc at 620sats and he tried to make ppl see the "crash" of the market. Selling all the way from 900sats to 620sats so that he can buy cheap
I hear the same thing with every dump on any coin..
Just put some buy orders at 200-500 satoshi and relax.
October 16, 2014, 12:44:52 AM
Not much buy orders until 620 sats. perhaps that guy put a buy order of 1btc at 620sats and he tried to make ppl see the "crash" of the market. Selling all the way from 900sats to 620sats so that he can buy cheap
Who can tell me WHY?
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October 15, 2014, 09:35:54 PM
I see we can't transfer our XCR from Cryptsy at the moment:
"Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."
~informer
"Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."
~informer
It has been like that for several weeks. I sent 1200CXCR from there early September to my win wallet........ its still not there.
I have been sending in support tickets to Cryptsy on this every other day. Sooner or later they will get tired of it and either fix it or lock me out.
Is this the link you've been using to create a support ticket:
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/tickets/new
~informer
October 15, 2014, 09:34:38 PM
Status Update
We haven't had any major updates the last few days, and we could do periodic smaller development updates, but they would be really boring. It would be like apple updating every tweak they make to the iPhone. It would become nauseating at some point.
In light of that, I will still try to fill you in on what we have been up to.
Boris has been testing a change to LevelDB as well as moving to Node.JS 0.11 which should help us with optimization. He also has been working to improve the syncing process due to the few problems we saw when we launched the current version. One of his major points of focus right now is optimizing resource use and trying to get the client more lean and mean.
SyRenity and some of the other Board members will be holding a meeting tomorrow with a possible candidate to come on as a consultant to help us determine the solution long term for the PoT issue. We don't have a specific announcement about this yet but hope to soon.
Eric and Sebastian continue to test all of the changes Boris is making and ensure that they work out all of the bugs.
I have been working to finalize the agreement and guidelines for our new design package. We now have a designer and will be working on a progressive timeline to get this accomplished. We will be working with Christine Isslander (https://dribbble.com/christineissland) who did the design for Snapcard.io among many other really great projects. I will be highly focused on this area of the project for the next 3-4 weeks and working to get our sites and properties on par with the competition. I also took over duties for the main twitter feed.
Max and Litoshi have been consulting on many issues within our private boards as well as being available here to answer questions. Litoshi is also transitioning to picking up our bookkeeping / financial records management to ensure we are being as cost effective as possible. Max will also be leading the efforts to get some discussions going over at CryptiTalk.
Max, Litoshi, and I will also be working on getting a community group together to help us get the word out, test new versions, and just in general to get some of you guys more involved and interact more wherever possible. We would also like to setup some community chats or Q & A sessions in the near future to try to be more active. Max will be leading up a lot of these initiatives for us.
A.M. is working to secure a workspace and additional developers for Boris team and we are hoping to finalize this within the next 2 weeks as well.
All in all, we have a lot going on and everyone has been swamped with their respective areas. We are working on coming up with a format and manner in which to do more regular updates and what we might be able to report on a daily basis just to keep you guys a little more tuned in to our process.
As always, we will keep you up to date on important news and how things are going. Thanks for being a Cryptinaut (haha we are testing new names to see if any stick).
thanks for the update We haven't had any major updates the last few days, and we could do periodic smaller development updates, but they would be really boring. It would be like apple updating every tweak they make to the iPhone. It would become nauseating at some point.
In light of that, I will still try to fill you in on what we have been up to.
Boris has been testing a change to LevelDB as well as moving to Node.JS 0.11 which should help us with optimization. He also has been working to improve the syncing process due to the few problems we saw when we launched the current version. One of his major points of focus right now is optimizing resource use and trying to get the client more lean and mean.
SyRenity and some of the other Board members will be holding a meeting tomorrow with a possible candidate to come on as a consultant to help us determine the solution long term for the PoT issue. We don't have a specific announcement about this yet but hope to soon.
Eric and Sebastian continue to test all of the changes Boris is making and ensure that they work out all of the bugs.
I have been working to finalize the agreement and guidelines for our new design package. We now have a designer and will be working on a progressive timeline to get this accomplished. We will be working with Christine Isslander (https://dribbble.com/christineissland) who did the design for Snapcard.io among many other really great projects. I will be highly focused on this area of the project for the next 3-4 weeks and working to get our sites and properties on par with the competition. I also took over duties for the main twitter feed.
Max and Litoshi have been consulting on many issues within our private boards as well as being available here to answer questions. Litoshi is also transitioning to picking up our bookkeeping / financial records management to ensure we are being as cost effective as possible. Max will also be leading the efforts to get some discussions going over at CryptiTalk.
Max, Litoshi, and I will also be working on getting a community group together to help us get the word out, test new versions, and just in general to get some of you guys more involved and interact more wherever possible. We would also like to setup some community chats or Q & A sessions in the near future to try to be more active. Max will be leading up a lot of these initiatives for us.
A.M. is working to secure a workspace and additional developers for Boris team and we are hoping to finalize this within the next 2 weeks as well.
All in all, we have a lot going on and everyone has been swamped with their respective areas. We are working on coming up with a format and manner in which to do more regular updates and what we might be able to report on a daily basis just to keep you guys a little more tuned in to our process.
As always, we will keep you up to date on important news and how things are going. Thanks for being a Cryptinaut (haha we are testing new names to see if any stick).
October 15, 2014, 09:15:18 PM
I see we can't transfer our XCR from Cryptsy at the moment:
"Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."
~informer
"Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."
~informer
It has been like that for several weeks. I sent 1200CXCR from there early September to my win wallet........ its still not there.
I have been sending in support tickets to Cryptsy on this every other day. Sooner or later they will get tired of it and either fix it or lock me out.
October 15, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
I see we can't transfer our XCR from Cryptsy at the moment:
"Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."
~informer
"Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."
~informer
It has been like that for several weeks. I sent 1200CXCR from there early September to my win wallet........ its still not there.
October 15, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
Status Update
We haven't had any major updates the last few days, and we could do periodic smaller development updates, but they would be really boring. It would be like apple updating every tweak they make to the iPhone. It would become nauseating at some point.
In light of that, I will still try to fill you in on what we have been up to.
Boris has been testing a change to LevelDB as well as moving to Node.JS 0.11 which should help us with optimization. He also has been working to improve the syncing process due to the few problems we saw when we launched the current version. One of his major points of focus right now is optimizing resource use and trying to get the client more lean and mean.
SyRenity and some of the other Board members will be holding a meeting tomorrow with a possible candidate to come on as a consultant to help us determine the solution long term for the PoT issue. We don't have a specific announcement about this yet but hope to soon.
Eric and Sebastian continue to test all of the changes Boris is making and ensure that they work out all of the bugs.
I have been working to finalize the agreement and guidelines for our new design package. We now have a designer and will be working on a progressive timeline to get this accomplished. We will be working with Christine Isslander (https://dribbble.com/christineissland) who did the design for Snapcard.io among many other really great projects. I will be highly focused on this area of the project for the next 3-4 weeks and working to get our sites and properties on par with the competition. I also took over duties for the main twitter feed.
Max and Litoshi have been consulting on many issues within our private boards as well as being available here to answer questions. Litoshi is also transitioning to picking up our bookkeeping / financial records management to ensure we are being as cost effective as possible. Max will also be leading the efforts to get some discussions going over at CryptiTalk.
Max, Litoshi, and I will also be working on getting a community group together to help us get the word out, test new versions, and just in general to get some of you guys more involved and interact more wherever possible. We would also like to setup some community chats or Q & A sessions in the near future to try to be more active. Max will be leading up a lot of these initiatives for us.
A.M. is working to secure a workspace and additional developers for Boris team and we are hoping to finalize this within the next 2 weeks as well.
All in all, we have a lot going on and everyone has been swamped with their respective areas. We are working on coming up with a format and manner in which to do more regular updates and what we might be able to report on a daily basis just to keep you guys a little more tuned in to our process.
As always, we will keep you up to date on important news and how things are going. Thanks for being a Cryptinaut (haha we are testing new names to see if any stick).
thanks for the update, and the market action need more confidence from the dev. We haven't had any major updates the last few days, and we could do periodic smaller development updates, but they would be really boring. It would be like apple updating every tweak they make to the iPhone. It would become nauseating at some point.
In light of that, I will still try to fill you in on what we have been up to.
Boris has been testing a change to LevelDB as well as moving to Node.JS 0.11 which should help us with optimization. He also has been working to improve the syncing process due to the few problems we saw when we launched the current version. One of his major points of focus right now is optimizing resource use and trying to get the client more lean and mean.
SyRenity and some of the other Board members will be holding a meeting tomorrow with a possible candidate to come on as a consultant to help us determine the solution long term for the PoT issue. We don't have a specific announcement about this yet but hope to soon.
Eric and Sebastian continue to test all of the changes Boris is making and ensure that they work out all of the bugs.
I have been working to finalize the agreement and guidelines for our new design package. We now have a designer and will be working on a progressive timeline to get this accomplished. We will be working with Christine Isslander (https://dribbble.com/christineissland) who did the design for Snapcard.io among many other really great projects. I will be highly focused on this area of the project for the next 3-4 weeks and working to get our sites and properties on par with the competition. I also took over duties for the main twitter feed.
Max and Litoshi have been consulting on many issues within our private boards as well as being available here to answer questions. Litoshi is also transitioning to picking up our bookkeeping / financial records management to ensure we are being as cost effective as possible. Max will also be leading the efforts to get some discussions going over at CryptiTalk.
Max, Litoshi, and I will also be working on getting a community group together to help us get the word out, test new versions, and just in general to get some of you guys more involved and interact more wherever possible. We would also like to setup some community chats or Q & A sessions in the near future to try to be more active. Max will be leading up a lot of these initiatives for us.
A.M. is working to secure a workspace and additional developers for Boris team and we are hoping to finalize this within the next 2 weeks as well.
All in all, we have a lot going on and everyone has been swamped with their respective areas. We are working on coming up with a format and manner in which to do more regular updates and what we might be able to report on a daily basis just to keep you guys a little more tuned in to our process.
As always, we will keep you up to date on important news and how things are going. Thanks for being a Cryptinaut (haha we are testing new names to see if any stick).
October 15, 2014, 08:43:40 PM
Status Update
We haven't had any major updates the last few days, and we could do periodic smaller development updates, but they would be really boring. It would be like apple updating every tweak they make to the iPhone. It would become nauseating at some point.
In light of that, I will still try to fill you in on what we have been up to.
Boris has been testing a change to LevelDB as well as moving to Node.JS 0.11 which should help us with optimization. He also has been working to improve the syncing process due to the few problems we saw when we launched the current version. One of his major points of focus right now is optimizing resource use and trying to get the client more lean and mean.
SyRenity and some of the other Board members will be holding a meeting tomorrow with a possible candidate to come on as a consultant to help us determine the solution long term for the PoT issue. We don't have a specific announcement about this yet but hope to soon.
Eric and Sebastian continue to test all of the changes Boris is making and ensure that they work out all of the bugs.
I have been working to finalize the agreement and guidelines for our new design package. We now have a designer and will be working on a progressive timeline to get this accomplished. We will be working with Christine Isslander (https://dribbble.com/christineissland) who did the design for Snapcard.io among many other really great projects. I will be highly focused on this area of the project for the next 3-4 weeks and working to get our sites and properties on par with the competition. I also took over duties for the main twitter feed.
Max and Litoshi have been consulting on many issues within our private boards as well as being available here to answer questions. Litoshi is also transitioning to picking up our bookkeeping / financial records management to ensure we are being as cost effective as possible. Max will also be leading the efforts to get some discussions going over at CryptiTalk.
Max, Litoshi, and I will also be working on getting a community group together to help us get the word out, test new versions, and just in general to get some of you guys more involved and interact more wherever possible. We would also like to setup some community chats or Q & A sessions in the near future to try to be more active. Max will be leading up a lot of these initiatives for us.
A.M. is working to secure a workspace and additional developers for Boris team and we are hoping to finalize this within the next 2 weeks as well.
All in all, we have a lot going on and everyone has been swamped with their respective areas. We are working on coming up with a format and manner in which to do more regular updates and what we might be able to report on a daily basis just to keep you guys a little more tuned in to our process.
As always, we will keep you up to date on important news and how things are going. Thanks for being a Cryptinaut (haha we are testing new names to see if any stick).
We haven't had any major updates the last few days, and we could do periodic smaller development updates, but they would be really boring. It would be like apple updating every tweak they make to the iPhone. It would become nauseating at some point.
In light of that, I will still try to fill you in on what we have been up to.
Boris has been testing a change to LevelDB as well as moving to Node.JS 0.11 which should help us with optimization. He also has been working to improve the syncing process due to the few problems we saw when we launched the current version. One of his major points of focus right now is optimizing resource use and trying to get the client more lean and mean.
SyRenity and some of the other Board members will be holding a meeting tomorrow with a possible candidate to come on as a consultant to help us determine the solution long term for the PoT issue. We don't have a specific announcement about this yet but hope to soon.
Eric and Sebastian continue to test all of the changes Boris is making and ensure that they work out all of the bugs.
I have been working to finalize the agreement and guidelines for our new design package. We now have a designer and will be working on a progressive timeline to get this accomplished. We will be working with Christine Isslander (https://dribbble.com/christineissland) who did the design for Snapcard.io among many other really great projects. I will be highly focused on this area of the project for the next 3-4 weeks and working to get our sites and properties on par with the competition. I also took over duties for the main twitter feed.
Max and Litoshi have been consulting on many issues within our private boards as well as being available here to answer questions. Litoshi is also transitioning to picking up our bookkeeping / financial records management to ensure we are being as cost effective as possible. Max will also be leading the efforts to get some discussions going over at CryptiTalk.
Max, Litoshi, and I will also be working on getting a community group together to help us get the word out, test new versions, and just in general to get some of you guys more involved and interact more wherever possible. We would also like to setup some community chats or Q & A sessions in the near future to try to be more active. Max will be leading up a lot of these initiatives for us.
A.M. is working to secure a workspace and additional developers for Boris team and we are hoping to finalize this within the next 2 weeks as well.
All in all, we have a lot going on and everyone has been swamped with their respective areas. We are working on coming up with a format and manner in which to do more regular updates and what we might be able to report on a daily basis just to keep you guys a little more tuned in to our process.
As always, we will keep you up to date on important news and how things are going. Thanks for being a Cryptinaut (haha we are testing new names to see if any stick).
October 15, 2014, 02:42:30 PM
Become a member.
October 15, 2014, 02:36:44 PM
@Devs
Any status update now on Custom Blockchains and the progress on the permanent PoT solution (assuming that the temporary solution doesn't become the permanent solution)?
+1Any status update now on Custom Blockchains and the progress on the permanent PoT solution (assuming that the temporary solution doesn't become the permanent solution)?
I think they are tweaking the code to work. Note: Think.
I think developers and the team are working too much behind the curtains I know they are working hard to make stuff happend.
But really, where are the updates? I recall passion_ltc was going to do daily updates.
I feel we've gone down this road before where the community effort "Will get better." and it does, for a day, then it's gone.
Passion comes back one day gives an update that we know of, namely that XCR team is working their asses off and making good stuff, but we need to hear it, others need to hear it, etc. Then market confidence goes up, everything goes up, and we can discuss topics brought here.
The lack of answering questions, community effort are really putting the innovations made to shame because of the sheer frustration community feels.
PR/Community manager isn't doing what he's supposed to.
They should not be offended by my comment and take it personal, they should take it to heart and start doing their job.
I don't want to hear "I understand that you guys are frustrated" or "things will get better with keeping community in loop"
I want you to actually do it. I want you to do your job. And if you can't do it part ways with Crypti and let someone else do it.
I got passion for this project, because what it aims to do, but currently where Crypti falls shorts is with community.
If you can't give a 15 minute brief a day to people who follow your project then I don't know why anyone wants to make an effort here.
Improve.
Hey,
yes sure. I was going to give daily updates. Here I am. I'm deeply sorry, but I was terribly ill the last days. I will try to update you in the future, if something like this occurs and I can't post these updates. The last days Litoshi and GreXX posted several times. Not explicit updates, but at least they said something. So I felt quite relaxed and tried to get healthy ASAP.
There are quite a few points on the workspace, which will be resolved soon. GreXX will give you all an update like Litoshi already mentioned. I will try to enhance the news situation somehow.
Whoa now I feel bad for my comments, didn't know that. Glad you're feeling better tho.
I also like Grexx, but things is he's a community manager/pr and he's away most of time of the day where he can't bring electronic devices.
That's very inefficient in terms of handling the community as all things seems to go through him.
I'd like you to work around it instead of into it, since activity is low when he's not around.
Per say, a suggestion would be he'll give you or Litoshi daily points in what to speak on/update, and let you speak freely in these points.
Then he can post his full update whenever ready.
You don't have to take my suggestion to heart I thought of it just now, but seeing as we're on this subject again, I can only imagine the core 'problem' of it isn't solved, and can't be since there is no reason for him to quit his job, since you can work around it to make things better.
Also, there are questions I see unanswered here and there, I posted a few too, that I want elaboration on.
Thing is, I feel you guys could do a lot better in this section, and answer questions of out best ability, and if you're wrong you can get corrected at later times by others in team, not much worse than that
You don't need to feel bad. It was just a about half a week and now everything is (almost) good again.
I will talk to GreXX and see if we can maybe give general updates about what we as members of the Crypti Foundation Board of Directors achieved/did for you.
Ok sounds good, in hindsight I realize I might've sounded a bit harsh in my phrasing, but I only aim to achieve more efficiency and better community involvement in XCR, aswell as try give suggestions to improvement, but sometimes I get a little carried away, even with intentions good.
October 15, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
5000, we are always here for technical issues. Passion and I will always respond to a problem with the software or network. In fact, we rely on our community to find the bugs that we missed.
Also if there is an important issue just shoot me a PM. If you want you can add me on skype as well. Just write me a PM with your name and I will add you.
October 15, 2014, 02:25:22 PM
5000, we are always here for technical issues. Passion and I will always respond to a problem with the software or network. In fact, we rely on our community to find the bugs that we missed.
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