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Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:37:46 PM

Yeah, post a buy order for XCR at 1 satoshi just to satisfy subHUMAN

For you and alikes I am Master of The Universe. You are morons who came to cryptoland from gold, silver and other rigged markets and think you know enough to give out advices.
The truth is you have no experience with free markets. Most stuff you posted on this thread do not work with cryptos. Expensive lessions awaits you here, enjoy.

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:45:43 PM

BTW, NXT is dropping in price. I wonder where the BTC is being spent?

Certainly not in vapourware like XCR.

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Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:47:00 PM

On a side note .. Anyone know why BTC network is so slow right now?

If you mean slow to confirm transactions, it may be because of the big miners. Transactions are supposed to be confirmed by the miners, but the amount earned from that was far less than using the hash power to mine. Most of the big miners are filtering out the confirm requests in order to goose their success rate on mining.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

Sound like someone what there low buy orders fulfiled.... Look I have Invested what I'm willing to lose... with that said there is nothing to show its a loss... Look if your selling your XCR right now for BTC with the mined set that XCR will never happen... then YOU are no better then the "hack" who wants something for nothing... So your telling ppl to sell what you believe in nothing for BTC? That my friend is stealing!! Now if you are selling XCR right now bc your happy with the profits you have made so far... and feel like you can't wait for the investment to go higher bc you think it has lengthened the term of investment vs. profit... Then these are reasons to sell... but telling ppl to sell bc its worth nothing just shows your true colors and motives... sorry to have to call you out like this...

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Put differently, if you are holding XCR but do not have buy orders even down at 1 Satoshi you are a proof XCR is not worth
even 1 Satoshi - so why the hell you are still holding it

Bizarre conversation...

Investors, traders, gamblers... whatever you wish to call them, may only take on so much risk -- It's risk/reward. Many may not feel comfortable increasing their risk any further by putting more btc onto bter. So hence less buy orders than one would see under normal circumstances (such as the exchange not being hacked).

It doesn't mean they should just dump their xcr at rock bottom prices. It just means their risk threshold has been met, and they will just wait it out. Its like asking why buy any crypti at ico prices at all, if you don't go all in at 15 btc?

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On a side note .. Anyone know why BTC network is so slow right now?

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You are not listening. There are 100M XCR right there at Bter but people are buying less than 10M, maybe even less than 5M. Unless there is at least 100M in buy orders it means
a massive dump which would fill all existing buy orders - it can happen - would leave many with XCR which they can not sell, at all. It also means that those same people missed a
chance to buy a shitload of XCR for as low as 1 Satoshi. Put differently, if you are holding XCR but do not have buy orders down at 1 Satoshi you are a proof XCR is not worth even
1 Satoshi - so why the hell you are still holding it?

Oh, I am listening, But your logic is flawed. You say that there has to be enough BUY orders to buy all XCR if it was offered for sale. Not true.

There can be no massive dump because:

1 ) no one owns that much XCR. Pre-sale had a limit of 15BTC

2 ) The value of XCR is still much greater than the price at 2000 satoshi. The price has yet to go below 1000 sats becuz investors know a bargain when they see one, and buy more at that price.

BTW, NXT is dropping in price. I wonder where the BTC is being spent?

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Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:37:46 PM

Quote from: 4Ykw on August 15, 2014, 07:32:50 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

there are buy orders all the way down to a 500,000 order at 200 satoshi.

yeah.. sure.. I can pump that if you want... just for fun! =)

Yeah, post a buy order for XCR at 1 satoshi just to satisfy subHUMAN

done lol

=) thank all I had left. Just LOL 23.77M XCR =)

If all give up.. I would be holding 23% of all XCR! LOL

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:36:21 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

there are buy orders all the way down to a 500,000 order at 200 satoshi.

You are not listening. There are 100M XCR right there at Bter but people are buying less than 10M, maybe even less than 5M. Unless there is at least 100M in buy orders it means
a massive dump which would fill all existing buy orders - it can happen - would leave many with XCR which they can not sell, at all. It also means that those same people missed a
chance to buy a shitload of XCR for as low as 1 Satoshi. Put differently, if you are holding XCR but do not have buy orders even down at 1 Satoshi you are a proof XCR is not worth
even 1 Satoshi - so why the hell you are still holding it?

One is proving they do not wish to take on any more risk and or do not have any more disposable BTC.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:29:48 PM

Quote from: 4Ykw on August 15, 2014, 07:23:18 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:20:01 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 06:52:15 PM

3. Gamblers just hold. If you do not have any more BTC to put up buy orders that means you are gambler, period.

I disagree. If you do not have any more BTC to put up to buy orders that means you are FULLY INVESTED.

Investors hold for the long term, Gamblers buy and sell as the price goes up and down.

subSTRADA was talking about traders... not investors. They are different!

Problem is that you noobs think investor is someone who buys and holds no matter what which is not true.

Noone was ever arguing that. We were arguing the pricing of XCR and the lack of buy support.

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Quote from: 4Ykw on August 15, 2014, 07:32:50 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

there are buy orders all the way down to a 500,000 order at 200 satoshi.

yeah.. sure.. I can pump that if you want... just for fun! =)

Yeah, post a buy order for XCR at 1 satoshi just to satisfy subHUMAN

samsmith16

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hahaha gambler ?!? No way... but if that makes you feel better to say....

I will be honest I have move more BTC through out the day to buy Crypti "on sale" while may of you slept or was not even paying attention I watched this whole thing happen... As soon as I saw BCT get disabled I started my plan to buy more Crypti at a discount... Then when I saw what was really going on... I said "well looks like I can move my buy walls down a little lower..." Like I have said I have faith in the Crypti team nothing more is needed at this point... This hack didn't surprise me... I was mentally prepare for this for weeks now... If you didn't have a plan for this very thing happening then I'm sry but Crypto just may not be your game...

Ok moving on to the upcoming launch... I have put the whole "hack" behind me...

I had many account passphrase that correlate to account numbers... some are easy to remember and I also have a launch day spreadsheet set up... So no big deal but will these accounts on the demo still work?
Like will the same passphrase hash the same account number?

subSTRATA

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Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

there are buy orders all the way down to a 500,000 order at 200 satoshi.

You are not listening. There are 100M XCR right there at Bter but people are buying less than 10M, maybe even less than 5M. Unless there is at least 100M in buy orders it means
a massive dump which would fill all existing buy orders - it can happen - would leave many with XCR which they can not sell, at all. It also means that those same people missed a
chance to buy a shitload of XCR for as low as 1 Satoshi. Put differently, if you are holding XCR but do not have buy orders even down at 1 Satoshi you are a proof XCR is not worth
even 1 Satoshi - so why the hell you are still holding it?

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:29:48 PM

Quote from: 4Ykw on August 15, 2014, 07:23:18 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:20:01 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 06:52:15 PM

3. Gamblers just hold. If you do not have any more BTC to put up buy orders that means you are gambler, period.

I disagree. If you do not have any more BTC to put up to buy orders that means you are FULLY INVESTED.

Investors hold for the long term, Gamblers buy and sell as the price goes up and down.

subSTRADA was talking about traders... not investors. They are different!

Problem is that you noobs think investor is someone who buys and holds no matter what which is not true.

You are confusing PRICE and VALUE. Investors know the difference.

PRICE is what you pay.
VALUE is what you get.

As long as the value is greater than the price, investors BUY. When the Price exceeds the value, investors SELL.

Thats why, as the price goes down, investors hold, because the value is still there.

Investors dont sell physical silver or physical gold, irregardless of the price manipulation at the COMEX. We recognize value, and take advantage of the low price.

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Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:31:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

there are buy orders all the way down to a 500,000 order at 200 satoshi.

yeah.. sure.. I can pump that if you want... just for fun! =)

4Ykw

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:29:48 PM

Quote from: 4Ykw on August 15, 2014, 07:23:18 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:20:01 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 06:52:15 PM

3. Gamblers just hold. If you do not have any more BTC to put up buy orders that means you are gambler, period.

I disagree. If you do not have any more BTC to put up to buy orders that means you are FULLY INVESTED.

Investors hold for the long term, Gamblers buy and sell as the price goes up and down.

subSTRADA was talking about traders... not investors. They are different!

Problem is that you noobs think investor is someone who buys and holds no matter what which is not true.

precisely =) I am out of words. Thanks.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

there are buy orders all the way down to a 500,000 order at 200 satoshi.

subSTRATA

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Quote from: 4Ykw on August 15, 2014, 07:23:18 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:20:01 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 06:52:15 PM

3. Gamblers just hold. If you do not have any more BTC to put up buy orders that means you are gambler, period.

I disagree. If you do not have any more BTC to put up to buy orders that means you are FULLY INVESTED.

Investors hold for the long term, Gamblers buy and sell as the price goes up and down.

subSTRADA was talking about traders... not investors. They are different!

Problem is that you noobs think investor is someone who buys and holds no matter what which is not true.

4Ykw

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The point is simple. By blocking XCR @ BTER (withdraws and deposits) the community will drive fear above all trading. Traders know what to do in these situations. =)

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Quote from: formula1 on August 15, 2014, 07:19:21 PM

Quote from: Litoshi on August 15, 2014, 07:13:28 PM

Hey subSTRATA.....

Why is it that those with the least to lose are the biggest complainers:

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 03, 2014, 07:28:04 AM

I have exchanged my 0.2 BTC worth of XCR from maxmint escrow (bonus was 29 or 30%) to Bter and received 22846.2409 XCR - can someone confirm it is correct amount?

0.2BTC ?

Apparently he sold everything.

Checking his posts, I found that he throws flame bait in over 12 topics, several in Croatian. I was unable to find any post by him that gave helpful information or unique insite. Just flaming. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 PM

Quote from: megashira1 on August 15, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

The point is some people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun. Others are holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably.

My point is that it makes no sense to "holding because they do not want to risk selling and not being able to get back in if things turn out favorably" in the situation when "some
people are underselling there XCR in exchange for BTC thinking that BTER may pull a bankrun" and not have buy orders placed as low as 1 Satoshi. If you think XCR is not worth
buying at 1 Satoshi or 10 Satoshi - which is what you prove by not having buy orders at those prices right now - you should sell all XCR you have.

Some do not want to take on any more risk and or do not have any more disposable BTC.

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