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BTC Spend   Percent   Crypti Received   Over Cap   Status
1                 0.00000%      0.00000000            1    Total cap

Overcap?
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Great work. Please open the pre-trade ASAP.
legendary
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Even though you say there was 30BTC more some of my deposit was already "released".

1    0.1065215    0.01388%    11796.85988741    16/07/2014 02:33:20    25%

This is why i am pissed of. Any more refunds and mine would get filled.
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Boris, Crypti Lead Developer, Lisk Advisor
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BTC Spend    Percent    Crypti Received    Over Cap    Status
2.6328    0.34747%    295351.28133335    0    -
BTC Spend    Over Cap    Percent    Crypti Received    Date & time    Bonus
0.612    0.612    0.08101%    68861.14847864    14/07/2014 14:26:40    27%
1.02    1.02    0.13502%    114768.58079774    14/07/2014 14:26:40    27%
1.0008    1.0008    0.13144%    111721.55205697    15/07/2014 05:10:00    26%

I don't need to worry about these red Over Cap, right?

Where this numbers? I can't find it.
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BTC Spend    Percent    Crypti Received    Over Cap    Status
2.6328    0.34747%    295351.28133335    0    -
BTC Spend    Over Cap    Percent    Crypti Received    Date & time    Bonus
0.612    0.612    0.08101%    68861.14847864    14/07/2014 14:26:40    27%
1.02    1.02    0.13502%    114768.58079774    14/07/2014 14:26:40    27%
1.0008    1.0008    0.13144%    111721.55205697    15/07/2014 05:10:00    26%

I don't need to worry about these red Over Cap, right?
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I wonder if the devs would consider a compromise. Forget the presale stuff, just release the coin properly one week early, which would put it on the market 6 days from now. At least it'd be a normal release then.

We scheduled the release on August 10th, in order to give us an adequate time for testing.
Releasing it earlier was considered as well, however then we would risk rushing and releasing with issues in the mainnet.

If you need the extra time to make sure everything works properly, then yeah, just stick to the 10th.

I think the issues that some have with the presale, and I'll include myself in that bunch, is it sort of reneges on the promise of a possibility for those on the wait list to still receive coins based on people asking for refunds. I realize it is likely that most won't get coins on the wait list, but some will, and have... so doing an early sale sort of differs from what most people assumed were the rules.

That brings up issues of devs living up to what they say they will, as well as running a poll, where honestly, the results were really known before the poll even started. Any ipo that sells out and offers a poll on a presale will get votes to sell coins early ... as there were people who don't have any coins at all as they missed the ipo, and still want in. They will simply vote 'yes' in order to buy up the coins they missed earlier.

I don't mean this to sound like it's the end of the world, or a huge, huge deal... just that it's sort of a bad way to start off distribution. I also expect many on the wait list will have a rather sour taste about this whole thing.

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SyRenity is a developer, would be nice to know who you are instead of just a username. Maybe I missed it somewhere in the introduction or the forum.
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You guys miss the point, If you can't trust a team to keep their before release word how can you trust them not to scam you after release?

Please indicate any major decision that was taken without thoroughly consulting with the community first.

This on How can you with a straight face actually say 62 random votes is a majority?Huh??

If your going to piss on us don't tell us it's raining.

62 votes against 31 votes.....62 votes in this context would mean a majority. welcome to math

W0w, you must be the genius of your family.

wow, you must be the fucktard of your family

and yet That doesn't take away from the fact that if you wish to behave like a baby who has been refused his mothers tit. then expect replies that are of a similar nature.

Acting like an over emotional retard who wants everyone to pay attention to him, results in people treating you like that retard

welcome to psychology
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legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
You guys miss the point, If you can't trust a team to keep their before release word how can you trust them not to scam you after release?

Please indicate any major decision that was taken without thoroughly consulting with the community first.

This on How can you with a straight face actually say 62 random votes is a majority?Huh??

If your going to piss on us don't tell us it's raining.

62 votes against 31 votes.....62 votes in this context would mean a majority. welcome to math

W0w, you must be the genius of your family.
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Dev post - edition 1

The first edition of the dev post has been published:
http://blog.crypti.me/devblog-1-nodes-payments-charter-more/

Top notch organization. I think the team is capable of great things in the future.
hero member
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I wonder if the devs would consider a compromise. Forget the presale stuff, just release the coin properly one week early, which would put it on the market 6 days from now. At least it'd be a normal release then.

We scheduled the release on August 10th, in order to give us an adequate time for testing.
Releasing it earlier was considered as well, however then we would risk rushing and releasing with issues in the mainnet.
hero member
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You guys miss the point, If you can't trust a team to keep their before release word how can you trust them not to scam you after release?

Please indicate any major decision that was taken without thoroughly consulting with the community first.

This on How can you with a straight face actually say 62 random votes is a majority?Huh??

If your going to piss on us don't tell us it's raining.

62 votes against 31 votes.....62 votes in this context would mean a majority. welcome to math
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
You guys miss the point, If you can't trust a team to keep their before release word how can you trust them not to scam you after release?

Please indicate any major decision that was taken without thoroughly consulting with the community first.

This on How can you with a straight face actually say 62 random votes is a majority?Huh??

If your going to piss on us don't tell us it's raining.
legendary
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Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
The fact they over sold something that should have been finite is the problem, now they go back on their word to wait till release and let people in if there were refunds.

Just for a general information, due to small amount of refunds, there are still over 780 BTC currently gathered on both Bter and Maxmint (and some of these will need to be refunded).

This also means that even if we had not agree to the early trading (against the wishes of the majority), it still would not be certain that these waiting for refunds could have made it in.

What kind of drugs are you doing and can I have some?

Please explain to me how 62 votes that could all be sockpuppets without 1 share is equal to "the wishes of the majority".
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Important update

Following the overwhelming majority of buyers voting positively to start an early trading, we have contacted Bter to provide us with the final data snapshot.
We are now updating the ledger with the final data, and will publish it soon. Once done, we will provide Bter with the final list of ID's, in order to perform the distribution and any remaining refunds.

Moreover, the official ticker XCR was chosen by the community, and reserved on Bter!


Please read more at the latest blogpost:

Pre-Trade Announcement & Ticker chosen!

This was a breach of contract, as people who were waiting to get on the list due to ongoing refunds now have no chance.

 

Well, since no one is asking for a refund, they have no choice anyway.  At least with the shares being tradeable they can still buy in before the launch of the coin.

Besides, there is no contract with the investors who invested AFTER the cap was reached.  No contract, no breach.

Good news that the presale is starting. People who were too late to invest can buy know at market price. They schould stop complaining

You guys miss the point, If you can't trust a team to keep their before release word how can you trust them not to scam you after release?

Humor me then:  What would be gained by waiting until Aug 10 to open the XCR market? 

I guess you just weren't raised to keep your word. How can I explain to you how important that is especially in a investor environment. If you don;t get it then I'm sorry for you.
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ALSO, how do you know those 62 votes are actual investors? Anyone can vote in that poll, even sockpuppets.
Either you devs have not thought this through or you had your mind decided before the poll.

Who is this majority? I see that term thrown about, but to be a majority, wouldn't the majority of coin owners need to vote?

The poll didn't even require people to own any crypti to vote. So those who missed the IPO who still wanted coins, would obviously vote for an early sale.

And yep, it's not a certainty that those waiting would have received coins. But the early sale turns uncertainty into no possibility. By the way, that dev blog has a typo --  with the majority voting positevly.


While it was certainly our concern, there was no better alternative as there is no currently way to prove that one holds Crypti (we will consider doing a voting app on top of the custom block-chain for such cases). Therefore, we also used the thread posts to evaluate the community feedback, and while the opinions ranged, there consensus was towards the positive.

Do note, that the link to the poll was (and still is) posted in CRSALE on Bter, giving everyone an opportunity to vote.

Thanks for the typo - fixed.
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You guys miss the point, If you can't trust a team to keep their before release word how can you trust them not to scam you after release?

Please indicate any major decision that was taken without thoroughly consulting with the community first.
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Member of the Crypti Foundation Board of Directors
A suggestion:  Have the trading posted to ALTCOINCALENDER.
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The fact they over sold something that should have been finite is the problem, now they go back on their word to wait till release and let people in if there were refunds.

Just for a general information, due to small amount of refunds, there are still over 780 BTC currently gathered on both Bter and Maxmint (and some of these will need to be refunded).

This also means that even if we had not agree to the early trading (against the wishes of the majority), it still would not be certain that these waiting for refunds could have made it in.

Who is this majority? I see that term thrown about, but to be a majority, wouldn't the majority of coin owners need to vote?

The poll didn't even require people to own any crypti to vote. So those who missed the IPO who still wanted coins, would obviously vote for an early sale.

And yep, it's not a certainty that those waiting would have received coins. But the early sale turns uncertainty into no possibility. By the way, that dev blog has a typo --  with the majority voting positevly.
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