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legendary
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For those who still haven't get on board now, i recommend youto buy now, at least to get your hands wet. The coins are cheap now, and I am buying in more at 200 k sat.
Don't need ask people to buy XC, if they don't wanna get money.
If always advertising, people might think someone wanna dump his coins. LOL

that's true.

time will reward the people who choose believe.
legendary
Activity: 1148
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

My question is why there so much criticism of XC not being fully developed when DRK is not fully developed?

It's because the moment XC started to rise, DRK started to fall.  So, people with thousands invested in DRK will criticize XC with extreme bias and often blatant lies in order to protect their DRK investments.

But XC's anon tech validity and Dan Metcalf's credibility and qualifications have been repeatedly proven.  FUD can only damage an image so much.  Expect a rebound

It is amazing how all of that died once they watched the video was posted.  

XC decentralized anon proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

For any who missed it

thanks for that, maybe should put this on XC twitter?
full member
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XC
For those who still haven't get on board now, i recommend youto buy now, at least to get your hands wet. The coins are cheap now, and I am buying in more at 200 k sat.
Don't need ask people to buy XC, if they don't wanna get money.
If always advertising, people might think someone wanna dump his coins. LOL
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

My question is why there so much criticism of XC not being fully developed when DRK is not fully developed?

It's because the moment XC started to rise, DRK started to fall.  So, people with thousands invested in DRK will criticize XC with extreme bias and often blatant lies in order to protect their DRK investments.

But XC's anon tech validity and Dan Metcalf's credibility and qualifications have been repeatedly proven.  FUD can only damage an image so much.  Expect a rebound

It is amazing how all of that died once they watched the video was posted.  

XC decentralized anon proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

For any who missed it
sr. member
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So much for "Community"
So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

My question is why there so much criticism of XC not being fully developed when DRK is not fully developed?

It's because the moment XC started to rise, DRK started to fall.  So, people with thousands invested in DRK will criticize XC with extreme bias and often blatant lies in order to protect their DRK investments.

But XC's anon tech validity and Dan Metcalf's credibility and qualifications have been repeatedly proven.  FUD can only damage an image so much.  Expect a rebound

It is amazing how all of that died once they watched the video was posted. 
hero member
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Merit: 500
So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

My question is why there so much criticism of XC not being fully developed when DRK is not fully developed?

It's because the moment XC started to rise, DRK started to fall.  So, people with thousands invested in DRK will criticize XC with extreme bias and often blatant lies in order to protect their DRK investments.

But XC's anon tech validity and Dan Metcalf's credibility and qualifications have been repeatedly proven.  FUD can only damage an image so much.  Expect a rebound
sr. member
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My question is why there so much criticism of XC not being fully developed when DRK is not fully developed?
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who cares- lets just not mention Drk on this thread anymore...the better technology will prevail... as with most things.
legendary
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So I have a general question regarding Alt prices for you more experienced members. Does the price for Alts rise with the price of BTC? IOW, if we have another BTC bubble will the Alts follow suit since their price is tied to bitcoin?
Yep, definitely, otherwise people who wanna buy coins later after BTC spikes, they will be paying more so there will be rush to buy alts if there is a BTC bubble Smiley so in that case you ll see alts value goes up, also market cap in the same time.  Wink

Very nice  Grin
legendary
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Question 1: Supposing there is time lag, if, say, you can shutdown your pc or disconnect your internet connection at the exact point when you, as a node/mixer, receive the money (but these hadn't the opportunity to be forwarded further), don't you get to keep the money even if you can't hack the encryption? If the money from someone else arrive at my address it's over if I am not "forced" to re-forward them.

Question 2: If the transfer is instantaneous then what prevents a timing analysis of the blockchain in which address A was reduced by 10.423 XCs and address B had a sum of +10.423 one or two blocks later.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
So much for "Community"
So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

My question is why there so much criticism of XC not being fully developed when DRK is not fully developed?
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1000
So I have a general question regarding Alt prices for you more experienced members. Does the price for Alts rise with the price of BTC? IOW, if we have another BTC bubble will the Alts follow suit since their price is tied to bitcoin?
Yep, definitely, otherwise people who wanna buy coins later after BTC spikes, they will be paying more so there will be rush to buy alts if there is a BTC bubble Smiley so in that case you ll see alts value goes up, also market cap in the same time.  Wink
sr. member
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Merit: 255
xnodes , supernodes, masternodes, a frogs like a toad, dump truck load, price about to explode, mac n cheese on the stove, devs got the code, going down the right road, send XC to my QR code - Eminem
sr. member
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So much for "Community"
After sitting on this quite a bit last night, I really began to see exactly what the Developer has in mind so I will try to explain it the simplest and best that I know so others may begin to understand more.  
ATC, please comment whether this is on the right track or not as I am trying to clear some things up.

The Xnode
1. Every wallet on the network is capable of being an "Xnode" depending on the amount of coins that are held in that wallet - current suggested is 1000 minimum, but that may change.  
2. The "Xnode" is essentially a decentralized mixer that passes the transactions through to the next "Xnode" until it is received by the intended target.
3. Keeping your wallet open without the "Xnode" option will pay the 3.33%/yr POS.
4. Keeping your wallet open with the "Xnode" option engaged will pay additional transaction fees on top of the POS.
5. Acting as an "Xnode" will incentive users to keep wallets open and active strengthening network security.

A concern that was raised yesterday was that the pass through transactions are visible to users, and that a wallet modification would be able to intercept and steal the coins.  This is where the muli path paradigm comes into play, along with the additional network layer or "XC Alpha".

1. According to the OSI Model - http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/OSI+model - There are 7 Layers to the Network stack.  The currently titled "XC Alpha" will add an 8th layer that will essentially come in between layer 2 and 3. The initial request and encryption is initiated on this layer putting the transaction in motion.
2. Once the transaction is initiated, an on demand  "Xtunnel" will be created connecting the requester to the Xnode pool. It is within this tunnel that transactions are transactions are submitted to the pool network where the coin mixing is processed and deliverd to the receiver.

At the current time, The additional layer is not in place and that is why users can see transaction processed through their wallets, and they are currently unencrypted??  Once the "XC Alpha" has been fully integrated, users will not see the transaction as they currently do, but they will see it in a similar way that they see the current POS transaction.  These transactions will be fully encrypted and the possibility of stealing the transaction as mentioned would be nullified.  
The transactions should be represented in the users wallet not as "mined" but as something simply like "X" (just a suggestion).  In this manner, they will be able to see that the XNODE is actually working and paying out as promised.

I hope I am on track here, and I hope this helps to understand more.  once again, if ATC would care to comment, edit, or tell me I am full of shit, feel free.



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Can we get Mintpal to change the coin name from X11 coin to XCoin? Or just XC?
sr. member
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

Payment of masternodes is what underpins the entire future of the DRK system though.

Absolutely, if it is not resolved in, say, a couple months' time, Dark is in trouble. I just wanted to remind the facts
sr. member
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I suspect xc prices will start to rise this afternoon into the evening and spike sunday
full member
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Dark's anonymous transactions are working now. Same for master nodes. What isn't is the payment of the master nodes.
XC's anon is not working yet, it is apparently working on tesnet, but not released so far (as planned by the dev, not an issue).
Just get your facts straight.

Payment of masternodes is what underpins the entire future of the DRK system though.
member
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Long Term Investor with Short Term Memory Loss
Can someone offer some sound advice to a fellow XC brethren?

Should I buy a gpu that hashes around 4 MHS X11 or an asic 1.5 Mhs scrypt miner? Both are about the same price.

Thank you for any input on this

i guess the Advantage of an asic is the less power consumption (even less than running your gpu with x11 algo) right? you Need to create an excelfile to calculate the power consumption, helps to decide.
on the other Hand your gpu has a warranty and can be replaced quite fast (when gridseed showed up there were only couple months warranty and replacing them means shipping them worldwide) and a gpu has a value even if the whole cryptocoin Thing dies tomorrow.
hope that helps. i would buy the gpu.

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full member
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For those who still haven't get on board now, i recommend youto buy now, at least to get your hands wet. The coins are cheap now, and I am buying in more at 200 k sat.

u are serious? on board now?


Yes i am serious. Believe me or not, this is a kind suggestion.
member
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For those who still haven't get on board now, i recommend youto buy now, at least to get your hands wet. The coins are cheap now, and I am buying in more at 200 k sat.

u are serious? on board now?
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