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legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
P.S. The XC DeFUD Fund's address is XN77DGRr2ZhEeojQkft9eJXJMq4HxoJTCD

It has 20XC now.

My guess is that as the tally goes up there'll be more of an incentive for someone to do the following:


- clearly describe each FUD point in XC's history (handy place to start: http://uk.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2a64ue/xcurrency_changing_the_way_the_world_views/cismmnb)
- link it to the original poster(s) of this FUD (involves trawling the original XC thread)
- provide the refutation (more trawling)
- link it to the place in a forum where it was first refuted



Whoever does this first (and properly) and sends it to [email protected] gets the cash. Maybe several people could split it. It'll quite a task to amass all that FUD.

sr. member
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So hello friends - what has been happening here?  I have been busy following URO - its fucing crazy that thread.  Anyway, any new news here from anyone ?

Happy FRIDAY!

Happy Friday indeed.  No big news but we've been trying to be productive and have been talking about how we can improve as a community and be as professional and badass as the XC team is.

Here is some cut and paste from earlier, we've also discussed putting a team together to work on the XC Anti FUD campaign where we will put together a list of all the nonsense FUD and refute everything with facts.  We'll be organizing it in the XC forum soon if you're interested in helping!



Yes, this would be valuable.


How about this?


1. Be good to each other
2. Be gracious to "enemies"
3. Completely ignore spam, FUD, and abusive comments
4. If you respond to anything with the above in it, erase the offending remarks from your reply before posting, because leaving it in will allow it to incite further offense. (Also Teka might delete your post.)
5. Don't ever spread FUD elsewhere. Respect other projects. XC doesn't need to compete with them; it's strong enough on its own.
6. Be patient with newbies. There'll be a lot of them arriving as XC grows.
7. The way you treat people makes up 95% of what's relevant in a post; the information supplied is 5%.
8. The way XC appears to the world depends on the way you are to other people.
9. Be aware of the difference between what you perceive and what you infer from your perceptions (e.g. statements vs. the intentions suggested by statements).
10. You devalue yourself by being aggressive/insulting/etc.
11. If we don't treat opponents well, then we just take on their mode of interacting instead of imparting our mode of interacting.
12. So be good to each other.






Yeah, having a team to frequent trollboxes (and anywhere else) is an awesome idea. However I'd construe the role of a trollbox team not as controlling information (since we have no monopoly on it), but as fostering community.

Our mode of interaction with others accounts for 95% of communication; the information supplied is 5%. So when we interact, we don't just give out facts, we give out a way of treating others, of being together.

This suggests that communicating and being a person effectively come down to the same thing: how we come across, that is, how we are in relation to others.

It also suggests that to be valuable to the world, XC requires its community, since we're what is presented to the world. Furthermore, the way XC appears to the world depends on the way we are to other people.

Therefore, be gracious to people (especially "enemies"). Be generous in your interpretation of their statements, especially when they're not generous to you. If we don't do this, then we just take on their mode of interacting instead of imparting our mode of interacting.

Be aware of the difference between what you perceive and what you infer from your perceptions (e.g. statements vs. the intentions suggested by statements). Be aware of the value of community and the value of how you come across, rather than defending the value of XC's tech without considering how you might devalue yourself by being aggressive/insulting/etc. Foster community. Remind people of the value of their role. Be to others what you'd have the XC community be to itself.


Basically what I'm getting to is that good tech without good ethics lacks value. If the XC team and community were a bunch of arseholes, XC would lack sufficient reason to exist.




legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Big shoutout to Teka, the new forum design looks great.  Also, congrats on reaching Hero Member status Smiley

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sr. member
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So hello friends - what has been happening here?  I have been busy following URO - its fucing crazy that thread.  Anyway, any new news here from anyone ?

Happy FRIDAY!
full member
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Big shoutout to Teka, the new forum design looks great.  Also, congrats on reaching Hero Member status Smiley

Much Jealous 
hero member
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so when is the real release of REV 2? not just beta? :s
sr. member
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Big shoutout to Teka, the new forum design looks great.  Also, congrats on reaching Hero Member status Smiley
full member
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Is the anon messaging beta still being released end of the week? And will it be a separate wallet or will it run with Rev2 beta wallet?


AFAIK anon messaging beta still being released at the end of this week (not business week M-F but a full week M-Sun), so this could be Sunday before we see it... could be after then... "beta".  

From what someone has said before on it, it uses the broadcast system, and not the blockchain, so might be a standalone app, but XC holders, I'm sure, would appreciate some form of required XC balance to use their system, even if negligible.  

sr. member
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Is the anon messaging beta still being released end of the week? And will it be a separate wallet or will it run with Rev2 beta wallet?

At some point this weekend we'll have the opportunity to test encrypted messaging, I think the exact time is dependent on Rev 2 progress as it seems that is the top priority right now.  
sr. member
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freecrypto.top
I always learn so much in this thread. You guys are great.
hero member
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Is the anon messaging beta still being released end of the week? And will it be a separate wallet or will it run with Rev2 beta wallet?
full member
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The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
Currently  each wallet can function as trustless mixer but it has to have 550xc in it. This requirement might change as we do more testing.
As Xnodes need to run any command?

Shouldn't need to do anything on the latest wallet (0.9.2.3).
Thanks my friend Smiley
full member
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Currently  each wallet can function as trustless mixer but it has to have 550xc in it. This requirement might change as we do more testing.
As Xnodes need to run any command?

Shouldn't need to do anything on the latest wallet (0.9.2.3).
full member
Activity: 269
Merit: 100
The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
Currently  each wallet can function as trustless mixer but it has to have 550xc in it. This requirement might change as we do more testing.
As Xnodes need to run any command?
full member
Activity: 158
Merit: 100
Currently  each wallet can function as trustless mixer but it has to have 550xc in it. This requirement might change as we do more testing.

will it change to require more coins?

Probably less to increase the number of nodes and assuming value increases... maybe more to reward 'early adopters'... I dunno...

I've added nothing to this conversation. Embarrassed
hero member
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RE price, market is so obviously manipulated it is funny, sells being sucked up, whales keeping the price action limited to bore out the sellers...

Going to get interesting again soon I think as there are more people involved with this coin and I dont think they will have the capability to keep a lid on it that much longer.
hero member
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Hello Everyone,

I need to say something real quick......  I'm a proud XC bag holder as well as a proud bag holder of Dark and Vertcoin.  I believe all three coins have their strengths and weaknesses.  I'm seriously sick and tired of researching coins on the forums and seeing nothing but useless fud and people arguing.  Re-quoting and arguing with other posters does absolutely nothing to help promote XC.  All it does is discourage investors, having to scroll through pages and pages of worthless arguments to find anything useful.  When I jump on a forum and have to dig and dig to find what I'm looking for, I just end up walking away with a bad taste in my mouth about that particular coin.  It gives me an idea of the type of people invested in that coin.  Please, lets change the game here for XC!  No more arguing with fuders and no more re-quoting ignorant people!  Also, investors want to see innovation and development.  If you are qualified to speak in either of those departments, post!  If your not, please don't.  If we create a forum of just good info for investors and holders, you will see XC's value go through the roof!!

Glad you are onboard but I personally think that compared to other threads on here, this is one of the most friendly and welcoming, not much we can do about FUD attacks but I think since we declared the DRK ceasefire its been pretty tame in here...
member
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Currently  each wallet can function as trustless mixer but it has to have 550xc in it. This requirement might change as we do more testing.

will it change to require more coins?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Hello Everyone,

I need to say something real quick......  I'm a proud XC bag holder as well as a proud bag holder of Dark and Vertcoin.  I believe all three coins have their strengths and weaknesses.  I'm seriously sick and tired of researching coins on the forums and seeing nothing but useless fud and people arguing.  Re-quoting and arguing with other posters does absolutely nothing to help promote XC.  All it does is discourage investors, having to scroll through pages and pages of worthless arguments to find anything useful.  When I jump on a forum and have to dig and dig to find what I'm looking for, I just end up walking away with a bad taste in my mouth about that particular coin.  It gives me an idea of the type of people invested in that coin.  Please, lets change the game here for XC!  No more arguing with fuders and no more re-quoting ignorant people!  Also, investors want to see innovation and development.  If you are qualified to speak in either of those departments, post!  If your not, please don't.  If we create a forum of just good info for investors and holders, you will see XC's value go through the roof!!

Absolutely right! Thats why today we discussed some ethical questions and Synechist took the lead in making a list with guidelines for the community! These are still up for discussion! So if you have any to add feel free to contribute



Yes, this would be valuable.


How about this?


1. Be good to each other
2. Be gracious to "enemies"
3. Completely ignore spam, FUD, and abusive comments
4. If you respond to anything with the above in it, erase the offending remarks from your reply before posting, because leaving it in will allow it to incite further offense. (Also Teka might delete your post.)
5. Don't ever spread FUD elsewhere. Respect other projects. XC doesn't need to compete with them; it's strong enough on its own.
6. Be patient with newbies. There'll be a lot of them arriving as XC grows.
7. The way you treat people makes up 95% of what's relevant in a post; the information supplied is 5%.
8. The way XC appears to the world depends on the way you are to other people.
9. Be aware of the difference between what you perceive and what you infer from your perceptions (e.g. statements vs. the intentions suggested by statements).
10. You devalue yourself by being aggressive/insulting/etc.
11. If we don't treat opponents well, then we just take on their mode of interacting instead of imparting our mode of interacting.
12. So be good to each other.




He also wrote this:


Yeah, having a team to frequent trollboxes (and anywhere else) is an awesome idea. However I'd construe the role of a trollbox team not as controlling information (since we have no monopoly on it), but as fostering community.

Our mode of interaction with others accounts for 95% of communication; the information supplied is 5%. So when we interact, we don't just give out facts, we give out a way of treating others, of being together.

This suggests that communicating and being a person effectively come down to the same thing: how we come across, that is, how we are in relation to others.

It also suggests that to be valuable to the world, XC requires its community, since we're what is presented to the world. Furthermore, the way XC appears to the world depends on the way we are to other people.

Therefore, be gracious to people (especially "enemies"). Be generous in your interpretation of their statements, especially when they're not generous to you. If we don't do this, then we just take on their mode of interacting instead of imparting our mode of interacting.

Be aware of the difference between what you perceive and what you infer from your perceptions (e.g. statements vs. the intentions suggested by statements). Be aware of the value of community and the value of how you come across, rather than defending the value of XC's tech without considering how you might devalue yourself by being aggressive/insulting/etc. Foster community. Remind people of the value of their role. Be to others what you'd have the XC community be to itself.


Basically what I'm getting to is that good tech without good ethics lacks value. If the XC team and community were a bunch of arseholes, XC would lack sufficient reason to exist.




newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
Hello Everyone,

I need to say something real quick......  I'm a proud XC bag holder as well as a proud bag holder of Dark and Vertcoin.  I believe all three coins have their strengths and weaknesses.  I'm seriously sick and tired of researching coins on the forums and seeing nothing but useless fud and people arguing.  Re-quoting and arguing with other posters does absolutely nothing to help promote XC.  All it does is discourage investors, having to scroll through pages and pages of worthless arguments to find anything useful.  When I jump on a forum and have to dig and dig to find what I'm looking for, I just end up walking away with a bad taste in my mouth about that particular coin.  It gives me an idea of the type of people invested in that coin.  Please, lets change the game here for XC!  No more arguing with fuders and no more re-quoting ignorant people!  Also, investors want to see innovation and development.  If you are qualified to speak in either of those departments, post!  If your not, please don't.  If we create a forum of just good info for investors and holders, you will see XC's value go through the roof!!
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