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Topic: [XMC] Monero Classic - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 7. (Read 13979 times)

sr. member
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unknown Dev, 8000sat/XMC , 100BTC ICO.
we need more info.........
newbie
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From 11million available to under 9million in under an hour.. Ohhhh boy.. How fast can it sell out

LOL, maybe noobs buying, or maybe OP buys it. God knows. Wink
legendary
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CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!
http://moneroclassic.tech/
Wordpress hosted site with simple ecommerce script, what to expect from this project?
Where are the dev teams, even you don't have good ICO webpage designer? No escrow and ICO for 100 btc, i think better to stay away.
newbie
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From 11million available to under 9million in under an hour.. Ohhhh boy.. How fast can it sell out
full member
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Why would such a coin be usefull ?

It is same way as ETc, but as far as i known, ETH Classic has been created because ETH had been forked after DAO hacked...

So, why? Huh

Monero Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Monero, XMC runs without a centralized controlled board of decision makers.
legendary
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so when is this going to be added on the exchanges?
I'm not sure if it would still get much support like how ETC did back then. but it would be great if it can still have more supporters so a pump would be great . Smiley
hero member
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This project have escrow.
legendary
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Really? Monero Classic, hoping for a similar story to ETC by any chance? good luck with this but I will just watch this time around.
full member
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Why would such a coin be usefull ?

It is same way as ETc, but as far as i known, ETH Classic has been created because ETH had been forked after DAO hacked...

So, why? Huh
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Much of this research is done by the Monero Classic Research Lab.

Congrats on forming your own research lab! Please note, though, that you will need to correctly attribute publications from the Monero Research Lab to them, you cannot reattribute them to yourself.

Appreciate the kind words. All monero publications will be correctly attributed, as we respect monero in all its glory.
newbie
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I can tell you right now the crowdsale wont last a week, most likely sell out tonight  Wink

Getting on this, not missing anither ETC style moonpump


EDIT: stock on crowdsale just went from 12,769,305 to 11,964,200.... Ohhh boy this is going to sell out.
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Much of this research is done by the Monero Classic Research Lab.

Congrats on forming your own research lab! Please note, though, that you will need to correctly attribute publications from the Monero Research Lab to them, you cannot reattribute them to yourself.

Edit: just to be clear, this post was facetious, meant to highlight the copy-paste content. I do not endorse cryptocurrency crowdsales, as they end up as scams 99.9% of the time. In addition, part of the reason that Monero has become at all successful is because we had no crowdsale, no premine, no instamine. We've spent 2.5 years slowly working on it, without pay.
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LMAO, CROWDFUNDING?? NO WAY
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For 100% I will watch this !
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full member
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Monero Classic is a project to keep the original censorship-resistant, immutable, decentralized Monero

Classic aims to push for adoption accross all darknet markets, being the gold-standard. Currently in the works is a fresh darknet market being setup with Monero Classic as the sole currency to be exchanged. With popular DNM vendors coming on-board, this is the first strike for success.


Monero Classic(XMC) is a privacy-focused cryptocurrency that is not based on Bitcoin's code. There will be a 7 day crowfund held at http://moneroclassic.tech

Monero Classic aims to be a fungible and untraceable digital medium of exchange. It intrinsically has a higher degree of privacy than Bitcoin or any of its various forks. It was launched on August 29, 2016.

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Status Update

I do appreciate the support so far, its been just over 24 hours of the crowdsale and already we are at over ~30% complete in the crowdsale, excellent results indeed, happy to be blessed with such confidence and such a supporting crowd.

Over the next few days i will be releasing screengrabs of current progress of the onion market being produced, just to ease a few minds, for development purposes the platform/marketplace will be codenamed ZION or ZionMarketplace.

Current Features
  • Seller & Product Approval and Moderation
  • Owner & Seller Commission Management
  • Rating & Reviews for Sellers
  • Multi Seller/Vendor Support
  • Responsive Design (possibilities for portable devices using the tor network)

The plan of attack is to offer the marketplace to approximately ~150 of the current top vendors throughout AlphaBay and Dream marketplace, offering no sign up fees to PGP verified top vendors, and no commision over the first ~3months.

As you may or may not know Dream and AlphaBay have been suffering timeout and server overloads over the past few months and top vendors are looking elsewhere, this is where ZION takes the fame.

after the ~3month period of no commision to select vendors, commision will be used to place buy support on Monero Classic, creating a steading buy-on-the-fly feature.

The ZION platform will aim to fill in the gaps where other darknet marketplaces fail, 100% uptime, low commission & a fluid/responsive design and of course a range of top vendors.


Those who are uncertain, i urge you to wait it out till after crowdsale, and see the final product, sign up to the marketplace and get a feel for what we have to offer, then decide then if you wish to invest. Many hours of hard work have already gone into this project, as we were in the works long before cryptonote was selected as the primary codebase for the currency.



With kind regards,
Monero Classic Team


Features

  • Untraceable payments
  • Unlinkable transactions
  • Blockchain analysis resistance
  • Adaptive parameters

Academic and Theory

Monero Classic's functionality is backed up by academic research and cryptographically proven schemes. Much of this research is done by the Monero Research Lab. Since Monero Classic was initially based on the CryptoNote protocol, the CryptoNote whitepaper is also an invaluable reference for validating Monero Classic's unlinkability and untraceability claims.


Specifications

  • PoW algorithm: CryptoNight [1]
  • Max supply: Infinite (see note below) [2]
  • Block reward: Smoothly varying [3]
  • Block time: 120 seconds
  • Difficulty: Retargets at every block

[1] CPU + GPU mining (about 1:1 performance for now). Memory-bound by design using AES encryption and several SHA-3 candidates.
[2] Initial number of atomic units is M = 264 - 1. However, once the block reward reaches 0.3 XMC per minute (sometime in 2022) that is treated as the minimum subsidy, which means that Monero Classic's total emission will forever increase by ~157680 XMC annually.
[3] Uses a recurrence relation. Block reward = (M - A) * 2-20 * 10-12, where A = current circulation. Roughly 86% mined in 4 years (see graph).


Crowdfund

a total of 12,769,305 XMC will  be available in a 7 day crowdsale, you may participate with the link below. Approx ~100btc will be raised. Wallets will be available upon crowdsale completion. A total of 12,769,305 XMC will be available during this period.

http://moneroclassic.tech/



FAQ
For a longer FAQ, check Community FAQ

What is CryptoNote?
CryptoNote is the technology that allows creation of privacy-centric cryptocurrencies. You can visit their website here. The level of anonymity provided by CryptoNote isn't possible with Bitcoin code base by design. Bytecoin (BCN) was the CryptoNote reference implementation, and XMC is based on BCN's code.

Two of the main features of CryptoNote are ring signatures that mask sender identities by mixing and one-time keys that make transactions unlinkable. Their combined effect gives a high degree of anonymity without any extra effort on the part of the user.

Unlike Bitcoin, your funds are not held in the address you give out to others. Instead, every time you receive a payment it goes to an unlinkable address generated with random numbers. When you decide to spend the funds in that one-time address, the amount will be broken down and the components will be indistinguishable from identical outputs in the blockchain.

For example if 556.44 XMC are sent, the protocol will break it down into 500 + 50 + 6 + 0.4 + 0.04 and a ring signature will be performed with other 500's, 50's, 6's, 0.4's, and 0.04's in the blockchain. Unlike the "CoinJoin" mixing method, CryptoNote mixes outputs not transactions. This means no other senders need to be participating with you at the same time or with the same amounts. Any arbitrary amount sent at any time can always be rendered fundamentally indistinguishable (a mathematical proof is given in the white paper).

The degree of anonymity is also a choice rather than decided by the protocol: do you want to be hidden as one among five or one among fifty? The size of the signature grows linearly as O(n+1) with the ambiguity so greater anonymity is paid for with higher fees to miners.

Ring signatures are explained below. Reproduced from CryptoNote:

A normal signature looks like this. There's only one participant, which allows one-to-one mapping.



A ring signature obscures identities because it only proves that a signer belongs to a group.



This allows a high level of anonymity in cryptocurrency transactions. You can think of it as decentralized and trustless mixing.



How does this compare to other anonymous solutions?
Ring signatures originate from the work of Rivest et al. in 2001 and the implementation in CryptoNote relies in particular on Fujisaki and Suzuki's work on traceable ring signatures. There are two other anonymity implementations currently available or in development. One is ZeroCoin/ZeroCash's use of zero-knowledge proofs. The others are based on gmaxwell's CoinJoin idea (such as mixing services for Bitcoin or the altcoin Darkcoin).

1. Comparison with ZeroCoin and ZKP-based approaches:
You can read about ZeroCoin and zero-knowledge proofs (ZKP) here. The ZK environment allows an anonymity set that includes everyone in the network because the validity of an output can be proven without knowing the corresponding public key until it is spent. The largest risk is that this is recent research-level cryptography that hasn't been subjected to years of cryptanalysis, so exploits may emerge down the road. Ring signatures are much simpler and more mature, with many peer-reviewed papers published over more than a decade.

Other issues with ZKP include the RSA private key used to initiate the accumulator, which must be trusted to be destroyed by the generating party. It also obscures the entire economy, not just sender/receiver identities. If the ZK system is compromised, then an attacker can continuously spend coins that don't exist using false proofs. This damage is hidden from everybody due to total blinding and consequently at any given time it's not possible to know if the network has already been compromised. There is a tradeoff between these inherent risks and the maximal anonymity set provided by ZKP. CryptoNote aims for a different balance through the dual layers of privacy provided by one-time keys and ring signatures.

2. Comparison with CoinJoin-based approaches:
XMC is more qualitatively similar to mixing implementations like CoinJoin. The differences arise in the departure from the Bitcoin protocol, which allows XMC to use new cryptography to provide decentralized and trustless mixing of superior quality. The critical problem with mixing services is the need to trust the operators. As an example, blockchain.info's mixer gives the following disclaimer: "However if the server was compromised or under subpoena it could be force to keep logs. If this were to happen although you haven't gained any privacy you haven't lost any either."

The CoinJoin-inspired Darkcoin performs mixing with selected "masternodes" since it still uses ordinary signatures that can be mapped one-to-one. The motivation is that a randomly selected node is less likely than a single service to exhibit bad faith (such as keeping logs) . In practice, a few VPS companies host the vast majority of nodes and this approach relies on the integrity and good behavior of these nodes. XMC's more fundamental cryptographic approach doesn't have these vulnerabilities and the quality of anonymity is much higher.

XMC's ring signatures are also far more secure and convenient than CoinJoin because they mix outputs not transactions. This means a transaction doesn't involve waiting around for other senders to mix with. Nor is a user restricted to mixing only if others are sending the same amount. Arbitrary amounts can be sent at any time without anyone else's participation. This feature makes a timing analysis of the blockchain useless.

Overview of a transaction
Bob decides to spend an output, which was sent to the one-time public key. He needs Extra (1), TxOutNumber (2), and his Account private key (3) to recover his one-time private key (4).

When sending a transaction to Carol, Bob generates its Extra value by random (5). He uses Extra (6), TxOutNumber (7) and Carol's Account public key (8) to get her Output public key (9).

In the input Bob hides the link to his output among the foreign keys (10). To prevent double-spending he also packs the Key image, derived from his One-time private key (11).

Finally, Bob signs the transaction, using his One-time private key (12), all the public keys (13) and Key Image (14). He appends the resulting Ring Signature to the end of the transaction (15).


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