[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1920.

fluffypony

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Quote from: sdersdf2 on May 27, 2014, 12:37:32 PM

Could the dev team here let us know what's needed to accelerate development of a user-friendly GUI wallet and easy exchange transfers - the absence of this is apparently hurting the coin.

It's technically superior to DRK and anyone else's anon tech - shame for something as minor as this to be holding it back.

You can't accelerate it - with more people working on it you have diminishing returns (and, more likely, negative returns) as they need to communicate constantly with each other to ensure they are working on different parts of it. You need a very small, very tight-knit group of UI/UX/C/C++/Qt developers to attack this, and that is what we have. If this was my team and I were talking to a client I'd tell them that it's 3-4 months of work to do it properly.

emontmon

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Quote from: Quanttek on May 27, 2014, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: Coindgr on May 27, 2014, 03:13:58 PM

Is it possible to solomine with cpuminer-multi ?? which port to use??

For that you have to use the wallet/daemon: Just type "start_mining NUMBER OF THREADS" into your wallet and he will start solo mining

think the reason he/she was asking is because cpu miner is slightly more efficient than simple miner. by 10 percent i believe.

Quanttek

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Quote from: Coindgr on May 27, 2014, 03:13:58 PM

Is it possible to solomine with cpuminer-multi ?? which port to use??

For that you have to use the wallet/daemon: Just type "start_mining NUMBER OF THREADS" into your wallet and he will start solo mining

Coindgr

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Is it possible to solomine with cpuminer-multi ?? which port to use??

sonoIO

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I've been following discussion in this topic about whether or not to have a fixed inflation, and how much it should be. I am not economist
but it is only natural to have fixed inflation in some equilibrium. The amount of inflation depends strongly on entropy
production e.i. efficiency of the processes of the world we currently live in (now is rather high because wars and corruption among others I suppose). I don't mean here just production by miners, but our World as a whole. If one finds proper metrics for entropy production (at the current state of the development and utilization of energy flows) I suppose that block size can be made such that value of the coin stays rather constant in time (if there are no to strong influence by speculators)... But I've been wrong before. Before that metrics, I vote for 1%

BTW, how does one compile Monero daemon without UPnP?

Zer0Sum

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Quote from: aeiry82 on May 27, 2014, 12:56:45 PM

What about the discussion of the future emission of this coin?
As drawingthesun stated there should be a guideline more soonish than later. I guess this uncertainty currently hurts Monero a lot.
Because big investors want to know what they are investing in. Uncertainty is the worst that can happen.
And I think it is not only about the investors but about the time window for Monero to establish as THE reliable anonymous coin.
Although I don't think DRK or some other coin will establish in this niche overnight I sense that there is no time to loose.

Considering myself I would be very cautious with a too high inflation. 1% is a lot as time goes by!
I think the constant emission model (1 MRO per 2 minute block) is really nice.

Serious investors simply diversify among all the CryptoNote coins...
It's waaaaay too early to be picking winners.

emontmon

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The darkcoin wallet was released faster than monero, by the devs (yes.. with monero is the community who will make a GUI, it's strange i think.. some questions, like why the community and not the devs?)

The unaccessibility of monero to public is like a non pre-ann.

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first: the "devs" are the community. there is no paid dev for this coin. The developers of the techonology are the cryptonote group. This clearly outlines your ignorance.

second: re UN-accessibility as you put it. this is not true either. there are many people in this coin who have never been involved in crypto currencie. reviewing the thread would clarify this for you. I am one of them. The coin I feel is very accessible.

please. no more FUD. If you feel dark is better stay there and educate new commers to your coin. I doubt you will change anybodies mind regarding monero at this stage.

mickey_miner

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Quote from: mickey_miner on May 27, 2014, 11:50:31 AM

You are a liar. darkcoin was launched without a qt wallet and was linux only. That is facts. darkcoin was also instamined because of supposedly difficulty issues. There were 500 coin blocks every second for hours.

Monero launched as bitmonero was a fair launch. It's just that nobody took it seriously because it was command line. So the first people that started mining got coins. Once people saw what the coin was then everyone started mining and difficulty went way up. I was mining in beginning when difficulty was under 200000. Lots of coins but everyone had a chance to see the ANN and start mining.

The darkcoin wallet was released faster than monero, by the devs (yes.. with monero is the community who will make a GUI, it's strange i think.. some questions, like why the community and not the devs?)

The unaccessibility of monero to public is like a non pre-ann.

ps: but why talk about darkcoin? darkcoin was just a example of new coin...

Quote from: superresistant on May 27, 2014, 12:39:52 PM

Haha Darkcoin has no code, it is a clone.
It is 100% marketing and spamming.

Once Darkcoin fall, it'll never recover.

Lol, Darkcoin is not a clone, it was the first x11 coin.
I remember you, yes you are this french guy who blame and diffame all the others coins because you invested in the nextcoin lol now you do the same with monero.

Now you said:

Quote from: superresistant on May 27, 2014, 12:42:35 PM

I'm 50% Monero / 50% Boolberry. The rest must die.

haha, you are a dumbass, see how you don't know how invest like a boss. In 3 months you will said "I'm 100% randomcoin, the rest must die".
Even if i think than monero is a good investissement, you was wrong about nxt Cheesy

Also i'm not here for talk about darkcoin. It was just a example... don't cry or be jealous, like i said monero can be the best, actually is not, cause of unaccessibility.

I'm mining Monero, so now stop create a competition between Monero and Darkcoin

Darkcoin wallet was released faster than Monero? You are wrong again. Monero HAD a windows wallet on release. It was command line but it was available on launch.

If your not here to talk about darkcoin then why bring up?

Lots of doubletalk from you. Makes me laugh because you funny clown is all.

Quanttek

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Quote from: aeiry82 on May 27, 2014, 12:56:45 PM

What about the discussion of the future emission of this coin?
As drawingthesun stated there should be a guideline more soonish than later. I guess this uncertainty currently hurts Monero a lot.
Because big investors want to know what they are investing in. Uncertainty is the worst that can happen.
And I think it is not only about the investors but about the time window for Monero to establish as THE reliable anonymous coin.
Although I don't think DRK or some other coin will establish in this niche overnight I sense that there is no time to loose.

Considering myself I would be very cautious with a too high inflation. 1% is a lot as time goes by!
I think the constant emission model (1 MRO per 2 minute block) is really nice.

Quote from: drawingthesun on May 27, 2014, 02:00:23 AM

All simulations start after the initial 18,000,000 have been minted (I know it's not exactly 18,000,000, but it makes little difference.)

(Matlab code included in case I screwed up the math or something)

1 MRO released every 120 seconds
http://pastebin.com/UWLVZaam

1 MRO released every 60 seconds
http://pastebin.com/dkVYBFj3

0.33333333 MRO released every 60 seconds.
http://pastebin.com/GwQJQzje

Inflation at 1%
http://pastebin.com/3K0dMnZe

Inflation at 0.5%
http://pastebin.com/6tJtdrqP

Also, for fun times, Inflation at 5%
http://pastebin.com/z5vmmW3z

As you might see, 1MRO is at the first years much more inflation than 1%. I personally would suggest an variable inflation in % between 0.2 and 1.5 based on tx-fees and difficulty

emontmon

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Quote from: sdersdf2 on May 27, 2014, 12:37:32 PM

Could the dev team here let us know what's needed to accelerate development of a user-friendly GUI wallet and easy exchange transfers - the absence of this is apparently hurting the coin.

It's technically superior to DRK and anyone else's anon tech - shame for something as minor as this to be holding it back.

disagree with this. lack of gui wallet has not held us back. on the contrary. it has clearly established itself as unique. lack of wallet is now part of its history. community comming together and created a bounty for the wallet is also part of what makes this coin great. people comming together and slowly building a community and culture.

this coin has not been held back at all. look at hash rate. look at postion on coin market cap. held back compared to what. grass roots build up is what will solidify this coin in the cryptocurrency market.

thanks

aeiry82

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Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 01:04:47 PM

Quote from: aeiry82 on May 27, 2014, 12:56:45 PM

What about the discussion of the future emission of this coin?
As drawingthesun stated there should be a guideline more soonish than later. I guess this uncertainty currently hurts Monero a lot.
Because big investors want to know what they are investing in. Uncertainty is the worst that can happen.
And I think it is not only about the investors but about the time window for Monero to establish as THE reliable anonymous coin.
Although I don't think DRK or some other coin will establish in this niche overnight I sense that there is no time to loose.

Considering myself I would be very cautious with a too high inflation. 1% is a lot as time goes by!
I think the constant emission model (1 MRO per 2 minute block) is really nice.

The emission rate is likely to stay the same. The change would be insreased block time to 2 minutes but rewards also increased to keep up with original rate. I totally support this.

Reducing emission rate by now would only scare away new adopters and miners, because these people see this as unfair and "instamine".

The "1 MRO per 2 min block" talk was about the producing rate AFTER 18 million coins was mined (a very far future)

I know that this issue is far in the future. But I believe that this aspect is an important one to solve because it has a great impact on the coins basics.
And after coming up with a sub-optimal emission curve (it is too steep) at least this should be done right.

Side question: How far into the future would it be to hit 1 MRO / 2 minutes with the emission curve?

TTM

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Quote from: aeiry82 on May 27, 2014, 12:56:45 PM

What about the discussion of the future emission of this coin?
As drawingthesun stated there should be a guideline more soonish than later. I guess this uncertainty currently hurts Monero a lot.
Because big investors want to know what they are investing in. Uncertainty is the worst that can happen.
And I think it is not only about the investors but about the time window for Monero to establish as THE reliable anonymous coin.
Although I don't think DRK or some other coin will establish in this niche overnight I sense that there is no time to loose.

Considering myself I would be very cautious with a too high inflation. 1% is a lot as time goes by!
I think the constant emission model (1 MRO per 2 minute block) is really nice.

The emission rate is likely to stay the same. The change would be insreased block time to 2 minutes but rewards also increased to keep up with original rate. I totally support this.

Reducing emission rate by now would only scare away new adopters and miners, because these people see this as unfair and "instamine".

The "1 MRO per 2 min block" talk was about the producing rate AFTER 18 million coins was mined (a very far future)

Gablez

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Looks like a good buy right now, the price will likely push up the next 24 hours.

aeiry82

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What about the discussion of the future emission of this coin?
As drawingthesun stated there should be a guideline more soonish than later. I guess this uncertainty currently hurts Monero a lot.
Because big investors want to know what they are investing in. Uncertainty is the worst that can happen.
And I think it is not only about the investors but about the time window for Monero to establish as THE reliable anonymous coin.
Although I don't think DRK or some other coin will establish in this niche overnight I sense that there is no time to loose.

Considering myself I would be very cautious with a too high inflation. 1% is a lot as time goes by!
I think the constant emission model (1 MRO per 2 minute block) is really nice.

damiano

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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.

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Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 11:37:10 AM

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Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 11:29:18 AM

It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.

:facepalm:

i'm a developer, what are you talking?
It seems you never developed something.

like i said

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The devs and community are waiting intentionally for make a true accessibility, because they want to mine a tons of this coin before anybody. Alot of peoples know it

You came here promoting Darkcoin and bashing Monero just because of the "GUI wallet". Darkcoin was also released without Qt at first. So what's your point ?

You are talking bullshit

because i was here the first day of darkcoin Wink

And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.

I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

I was on the darkcoin launch and there was NO QT

Since were on the talk about dark, shall we talk about the instamine?!

superresistant

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You are talking bullshit

because i was here the first day of darkcoin Wink

And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.
I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

Haha Darkcoin has no code, it is a clone.
It is 100% marketing and spamming.

Once Darkcoin fall, it'll never recover.

sdersdf2

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Could the dev team here let us know what's needed to accelerate development of a user-friendly GUI wallet and easy exchange transfers - the absence of this is apparently hurting the coin.

It's technically superior to DRK and anyone else's anon tech - shame for something as minor as this to be holding it back.

huhliki.k

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why, as soon as Dark fall in value in the subject monero there are many trollings?

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Who cares?

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Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 11:37:10 AM

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Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 11:29:18 AM

It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.

:facepalm:

i'm a developer, what are you talking?
It seems you never developed something.

like i said

Quote

The devs and community are waiting intentionally for make a true accessibility, because they want to mine a tons of this coin before anybody. Alot of peoples know it

You came here promoting Darkcoin and bashing Monero just because of the "GUI wallet". Darkcoin was also released without Qt at first. So what's your point ?

You are talking bullshit

because i was here the first day of darkcoin Wink

And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.

I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

Keep trolling bro.

mickey_miner

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Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 11:37:10 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: TTM on May 27, 2014, 11:29:18 AM

It seems you forget a critical point that CryptoNote is a totally new code base, you can't just simply copy Bitcoin GUI client just like Darkcoin and other Bitcoin clones are doing.

:facepalm:

i'm a developer, what are you talking?
It seems you never developed something.

like i said

Quote

The devs and community are waiting intentionally for make a true accessibility, because they want to mine a tons of this coin before anybody. Alot of peoples know it

You came here promoting Darkcoin and bashing Monero just because of the "GUI wallet". Darkcoin was also released without Qt at first. So what's your point ?

You are talking bullshit because i was here the first day of darkcoin

And i said i mine monero but this coin start badly.

I like how the non-coder peoples are trying to blame me xD

You are a liar. darkcoin was launched without a qt wallet and was linux only. That is facts. darkcoin was also instamined because of supposedly difficulty issues. There were 500 coin blocks every second for hours.

Monero launched as bitmonero was a fair launch. It's just that nobody took it seriously because it was command line. So the first people that started mining got coins. Once people saw what the coin was then everyone started mining and difficulty went way up. I was mining in beginning when difficulty was under 200000. Lots of coins but everyone had a chance to see the ANN and start mining.

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