I agree with Hueristic. Well I am not sure that the Samourai devs are "scammy" I do not know. But they are childish, argumentative and have made sketchy claims. It seems to me that both they and the Wasabi devs have been caught making really bad privacy mistakes. But the Wasabi devs seemed to just be using broken processes, while the Samourai devs provide enough doubt for there to even be a question as to their purposes in the first place. I believe it was shown they were sending IP addresses back to their own servers. That is either an accident or a straight up black hat move.
More power to them for supporting Haveno... but even that seems kind of silly since their impetus is the fact Bisq is allowing users to use the Liquid chain, which the Samourai devs see as evil because it is centralized. But, this too seems odd since no one HAS to use Liquid.
On top of the fact that Liquid actually offers REALLY REALLY good privacy as a layer on BTC.
I have always thought something about Samourai just seems a little off.
Again.. I thin it's nice they are contributing to Haveno... but I your attack on Hueristic to be a little over the top. CTFD IMHO.
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Did you pull this comment out of your ass or did you actually do some research to back your logical fallacy?
You are lost in space here and I believe your brain may be damaged if you can't understand what donations are, you can't even spell Samourai word correctly and we are not talking about Wasabi or Samourai, but about MONERO dex called Haveno.
I completely understand but that does not preclude the fact that I don't trust that project.
It actually makes me wonder if there is a connection between the two and if there is a scammy element of Haveno.
And you still have not made a point other than doubling down on your fallacies.
Did you pull this comment out of your ass or did you actually do some research to back your logical fallacy?
You are lost in space here and I believe your brain may be damaged if you can't understand what donations are, you can't even spell Samourai word correctly and we are not talking about Wasabi or Samourai, but about MONERO dex called Haveno.
I believe Samurai is scammy, too bad its not wasabi.
Scammy for donating Bitcoin for developing something good like dex exchange that can actually work?
I am not a part of any crypto tribes and I don't really care about maxi wars.
Did you pull this comment out of your ass or did you actually do some research to back your logical fallacy?
I believe Samurai is scammy, too bad its not wasabi.
Scammy for donating Bitcoin for developing something good like dex exchange that can actually work?
I am not a part of any crypto tribes and I don't really care about maxi wars.
Samourai Wallet is now supporting and sponsoring Monero-based Haveno DEX exchange with 0.18 BTC grant, and that is what open source is all about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/n1ubtn/samourai_wallet_is_now_a_sponsor_of_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/n1ubtn/samourai_wallet_is_now_a_sponsor_of_the/
I believe Samurai is scammy, too bad its not wasabi.
https://www.coindesk.com/a-battle-between-bitcoin-wallets-has-big-implications-for-privacy
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Regretfully I have to agree.
I have seen far too much outright dishonest and extremely incompetent behaviour from Samourai to ever trust it myself.
Samourai has very poor privacy while bragging about having good privacy: It sends your addresses all back to their server. Their "trusted node" mode doesn't change this, it just exposes your Bitcoin node to attacks completely needlessly. (Needlessly because they only use it to relay transactions, which they could do via the public P2P ports of any node, and because since they've already sent your addresses back to their server sending your transactions via something else doesn't increase your privacy.)
If you want strong privacy then as a start you need to run a full node (and use either Bitcoin Core wallet, or run your own electrum server), preferably via tor.
I don't doubt that they want and intend to eventually have good privacy but it seems that they're just unable to stop lying about it, even after previously being caught.
nullc 64 points 2 years ago*
Regretfully I have to agree.
I have seen far too much outright dishonest and extremely incompetent behaviour from Samourai to ever trust it myself.
Samourai has very poor privacy while bragging about having good privacy: It sends your addresses all back to their server. Their "trusted node" mode doesn't change this, it just exposes your Bitcoin node to attacks completely needlessly. (Needlessly because they only use it to relay transactions, which they could do via the public P2P ports of any node, and because since they've already sent your addresses back to their server sending your transactions via something else doesn't increase your privacy.)
If you want strong privacy then as a start you need to run a full node (and use either Bitcoin Core wallet, or run your own electrum server), preferably via tor.
I don't doubt that they want and intend to eventually have good privacy but it seems that they're just unable to stop lying about it, even after previously being caught.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9r9344/slp29_samourai_wallet_bitcoin_privacy_software/e8fm1v8/
Samourai Wallet is now supporting and sponsoring Monero-based Haveno DEX exchange with 0.18 BTC grant, and that is what open source is all about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/n1ubtn/samourai_wallet_is_now_a_sponsor_of_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/n1ubtn/samourai_wallet_is_now_a_sponsor_of_the/
Anyone want to bet on Superbowl? My Pats lost to Fucking Manning So I'm Betting against that prick!
Last year was a close one!
Money line has Denver +195 and Carolina -220, so I'm willing to bet 50 XMR that the Broncos win v. your 100 XMR that the Panthers win. Gotta let me know before kickoff if you wanna bet...
75:100 and you got yourself a deal.
Hmmm… you know, with all this hubbub about sportsball and NFT’s, I’m thinking I can possibly recoup my losses by taking a quick screen shot before anyone else does?!?!?
At the moment it's just a Proof of Concept created by some well-known Monero project contributors.
The main target is a native Monero DEX (low fee & privacy) and Fiat <-> XMR because that is missing on bisq. Other coins <-> XMR is possible on bisq.
The main target is a native Monero DEX (low fee & privacy) and Fiat <-> XMR because that is missing on bisq. Other coins <-> XMR is possible on bisq.
I don't think bisq exchange is allowing listing of new coins anymore and they stopped that last year I think, so it would be great to see Haveno having this listing option back.
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Does anyone have more information about Haveno dex exchange
At the moment it's just a Proof of Concept created by some well-known Monero project contributors.
The main target is a native Monero DEX (low fee & privacy) and Fiat <-> XMR because that is missing on bisq. Other coins <-> XMR is possible on bisq.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/mmrchk/im_happy_to_announce_haveno_the_monero_based_dex/
Does anyone have more information about Haveno dex exchange that is forking bisq and using Monero coin, and what other coins will be listed?
https://github.com/haveno-dex
https://github.com/haveno-dex
Can't vouch for the safety.. And the exchange rates are not exactly super favorable... but it has certain other charms:
https://swap.lightning-network.ro/
For example exchanging lightning-btc to XMR, if one were to do it, which I can't since I have basically none of either anymore, woud feel quite cypher-punky. Especially if one were to be running one's nodes behind tor...
I would assume.
https://swap.lightning-network.ro/
For example exchanging lightning-btc to XMR, if one were to do it, which I can't since I have basically none of either anymore, woud feel quite cypher-punky. Especially if one were to be running one's nodes behind tor...
I would assume.
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Anonymous cryptocoins, maybe useful in some cases.
And monero is the king!
Anonymous cryptocoins, maybe useful in some cases.
And monero is the king!
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Make of this what you will, but this a BTC-XMR atomic swap performed in testnet with Commit PoC and Samourai Wallet.
- https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/af4dd0be3f72e0a2e4e9f548a01755c62b93fd52e66220be699c40ae026847a6
- https://community.xmr.to/explorer/stagenet/search?value=5b062f59f83b65d00fcf077552a06a33bd239d34608b38486e0df08bb0dd7917
- https://blockstream.info/testnet/tx/af4dd0be3f72e0a2e4e9f548a01755c62b93fd52e66220be699c40ae026847a6
- https://community.xmr.to/explorer/stagenet/search?value=5b062f59f83b65d00fcf077552a06a33bd239d34608b38486e0df08bb0dd7917
https://twitter.com/rottenwheel/status/1384516334445338626
XMR rock solid in the market dip!!!
Very cool to see how it can hold its own!
in the last 24 hours of trading, Monero has grown 15%....seen from the chart if the price continues to move positively as it is now then in the near future we will pass the previous ATH. Monero past $500 then to $1000 is not difficult anymore, #hodlVery cool to see how it can hold its own!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-speculation-753252
XMR rock solid in the market dip!!!
Very cool to see how it can hold its own!
in the last 24 hours of trading, Monero has grown 15%....seen from the chart if the price continues to move positively as it is now then in the near future we will pass the previous ATH. Monero past $500 then to $1000 is not difficult anymore, #hodl Very cool to see how it can hold its own!
XMR rock solid in the market dip!!!
Very cool to see how it can hold its own!
Very cool to see how it can hold its own!
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Latest issue here:
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