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primer-

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Quote from: smooth on March 23, 2016, 03:27:53 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:31:05 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:24:42 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:17:14 PM

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

He didn't get booted off, the fork was NOT COMPATIBLE with pool software. Onishin is a smart guy, i'm not surprised he fixed it in to time (still took him longer than me

)

No, the pool software was not updated to support a well publicised fork, even though testnet was forked months ago and available for testing. Why and how would a hard fork support outdated software??

This was a ninja fork, poorly executed. You, the dev team, are amateurs. I'd be worried what other nasties will show up... 2 min blocks are a terrible idea in the first place.. How come the miners didn't get a say ?

Well my current hash rate seems to be 32% , should i try to do a double spend ?

Code:

1009853 59 to go 1627572355 2a97ce44a2e81d932a804668a93f2dd6670154283c04dd0005eeb1a8db47cdd5 3/23/2016, 7:20:59 PM 78%
1009852 58 to go 1621258227 7750098e01c2c457c5e90639883b6be73decb1442931a3bdc018244c6cf75e60 3/23/2016, 7:05:24 PM 83%
1009849 55 to go 1618724176 f20dfbe79664394d9b9920ea7095f516a24b5693f9166a10dbfe63f7db1ddf82 3/23/2016, 6:52:46 PM 84%
1009845 51 to go 1613905042 4977c235f696284b55a42207933c4f045f647ea73efce1e2c280370d0754fc24 3/23/2016, 6:41:44 PM 79%
1009843 49 to go 1621581315 a4a02510f2f376dff190c59486b370a022f01d45683b62bda83a4708bccdf36e 3/23/2016, 6:26:49 PM 48%
1009833 39 to go 1609202846 a937fead88d2a438e11eeaf0e8596dc0cb92a028831104a02406d9734dbb3718 3/23/2016, 5:48:13 PM 94%
1009831 37 to go 1602611350 65b2b5031e39702b8c5130d6254653cd00fbc7fe1bfd0b6be2664ac98776f09a 3/23/2016, 5:43:46 PM 84%

Instead I would suggest that you learn how mining works. You got lucky there, or your hash rate is much higher than you claim. Probably the latter.

Stop pretending you don't know whats going on you idiot.
http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/#pool_blocks

Onishin's pool now doing way over 50% with less than 3MH/s. Let me guess, he's just lucky. I had 1% total hash rate before the fork, over 15% now.

birr

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Primer's not a professional troll, just a kvetch.
Look past his bitching and moaning, and judge him only by his actions' net effect.
Maybe he's not such a bad person.
I should know the difference between drama and misdemeanor; I am occasionally guilty of the former myself.

americanpegasus

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Quote

"Two minute block times are a bad idea anyway."

ok, you went to far. No one who runs a mining pool would ever actually hold such a belief. Obviously two minute block times are superior to single minute blocks. In fact, 2 minutes is probably the bare minimum that a proof-of-work Blockchain should have given the current state of technology.

smooth

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Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:24:42 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:17:14 PM

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

He didn't get booted off, the fork was NOT COMPATIBLE with pool software. Onishin is a smart guy, i'm not surprised he fixed it in to time (still took him longer than me

)

No, the pool software was not updated to support a well publicised fork, even though testnet was forked months ago and available for testing. Why and how would a hard fork support outdated software??

Moreover their pool software is heavily customized. That was likely the cause of most pool problems across the board. The basic open source pool code we crowdfunded back in the early days seems to have worked fine.

smooth

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Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:31:05 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:24:42 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:17:14 PM

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

He didn't get booted off, the fork was NOT COMPATIBLE with pool software. Onishin is a smart guy, i'm not surprised he fixed it in to time (still took him longer than me

)

No, the pool software was not updated to support a well publicised fork, even though testnet was forked months ago and available for testing. Why and how would a hard fork support outdated software??

This was a ninja fork, poorly executed. You, the dev team, are amateurs. I'd be worried what other nasties will show up... 2 min blocks are a terrible idea in the first place.. How come the miners didn't get a say ?

Well my current hash rate seems to be 32% , should i try to do a double spend ?

Code:

1009853 59 to go 1627572355 2a97ce44a2e81d932a804668a93f2dd6670154283c04dd0005eeb1a8db47cdd5 3/23/2016, 7:20:59 PM 78%
1009852 58 to go 1621258227 7750098e01c2c457c5e90639883b6be73decb1442931a3bdc018244c6cf75e60 3/23/2016, 7:05:24 PM 83%
1009849 55 to go 1618724176 f20dfbe79664394d9b9920ea7095f516a24b5693f9166a10dbfe63f7db1ddf82 3/23/2016, 6:52:46 PM 84%
1009845 51 to go 1613905042 4977c235f696284b55a42207933c4f045f647ea73efce1e2c280370d0754fc24 3/23/2016, 6:41:44 PM 79%
1009843 49 to go 1621581315 a4a02510f2f376dff190c59486b370a022f01d45683b62bda83a4708bccdf36e 3/23/2016, 6:26:49 PM 48%
1009833 39 to go 1609202846 a937fead88d2a438e11eeaf0e8596dc0cb92a028831104a02406d9734dbb3718 3/23/2016, 5:48:13 PM 94%
1009831 37 to go 1602611350 65b2b5031e39702b8c5130d6254653cd00fbc7fe1bfd0b6be2664ac98776f09a 3/23/2016, 5:43:46 PM 84%

Instead I would suggest that you learn how mining works. You got lucky there, or your hash rate is much higher than you claim. Probably the latter.

smooth

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Quote from: canth on March 23, 2016, 03:18:01 PM

I tried to get a dev donation transaction in on the fork block, but it got confirmed far too late.

There was a backlog of some transactions that were a bit too large to fit in normal blocks before the fork, and those filled most of the first 10-20 blocks after the fork. Things seem back to normal now.

bitebits

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Flippin' burgers since 1163.

That was a really successful HF, thanks for all the hard work devs of the 'Monero Project'!

(and as well dEBRUYNE for all the information provided from every corner of the Monero habitat)

canth

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I tried to get a dev donation transaction in on the fork block, but it got confirmed far too late.

I hit send as soon as I saw 1009826 but it didn't get confirmed until 1009844. Ohwell - glad to see this was a non-event for most users. GJ Devs!

primer-

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Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:47:40 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:31:05 PM

This was a ninja fork, poorly executed. You, the dev team, are amateurs. I'd be worried what other nasties will show up... 2 min blocks are a terrible idea in the first place.. How come the miners didn't get a say ?

Well my current hash rate seems to be 32% , should i try to do a double spend ?

I have never heard anyone complain as much as you do. I'd say that you're like an old Italian mother, but that would be an insult to both Italians and women. Your attitude and behaviour is appalling, your parents must be disgusted to have raised a dim boy with such poor manners and such a limited world view.

Get a clue, primer-, you're an embarrassment to nobody but yourself.

I'm ignoring personal attacks not related to monero development... GFY..

Moderator delete fluffypony's post!

wpalczynski

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Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:47:02 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:45:06 PM

Quote from: turkandjaydee on March 23, 2016, 02:39:48 PM

is mymonero get affected by this fork?

Yes, busy fixing some issues that slipped past

"MOO HA HA"

fluffypony

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Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:31:05 PM

This was a ninja fork, poorly executed. You, the dev team, are amateurs. I'd be worried what other nasties will show up... 2 min blocks are a terrible idea in the first place.. How come the miners didn't get a say ?

Well my current hash rate seems to be 32% , should i try to do a double spend ?

I have never heard anyone complain as much as you do. I'd say that you're like an old Italian mother, but that would be an insult to both Italians and women. Your attitude and behaviour is appalling, your parents must be disgusted to have raised a dim boy with such poor manners and such a limited world view.

Get a clue, primer-, you're an embarrassment to nobody but yourself.

primer-

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Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:45:06 PM

Quote from: turkandjaydee on March 23, 2016, 02:39:48 PM

is mymonero get affected by this fork?

Yes, busy fixing some issues that slipped past

"MOO HA HA"

fluffypony

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on March 23, 2016, 02:39:48 PM

is mymonero get affected by this fork?

Yes, busy fixing some issues that slipped past

turkandjaydee

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is mymonero get affected by this fork?

CTTE

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Great Job Devs! Cheesy

primer-

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Quote from: fluffypony on March 23, 2016, 02:24:42 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:17:14 PM

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

He didn't get booted off, the fork was NOT COMPATIBLE with pool software. Onishin is a smart guy, i'm not surprised he fixed it in to time (still took him longer than me

)

No, the pool software was not updated to support a well publicised fork, even though testnet was forked months ago and available for testing. Why and how would a hard fork support outdated software??

This was a ninja fork, poorly executed. You, the dev team, are amateurs. I'd be worried what other nasties will show up... 2 min blocks are a terrible idea in the first place.. How come the miners didn't get a say ?

Well my current hash rate seems to be 32% , should i try to do a double spend ?

Code:

1009853 59 to go 1627572355 2a97ce44a2e81d932a804668a93f2dd6670154283c04dd0005eeb1a8db47cdd5 3/23/2016, 7:20:59 PM 78%
1009852 58 to go 1621258227 7750098e01c2c457c5e90639883b6be73decb1442931a3bdc018244c6cf75e60 3/23/2016, 7:05:24 PM 83%
1009849 55 to go 1618724176 f20dfbe79664394d9b9920ea7095f516a24b5693f9166a10dbfe63f7db1ddf82 3/23/2016, 6:52:46 PM 84%
1009845 51 to go 1613905042 4977c235f696284b55a42207933c4f045f647ea73efce1e2c280370d0754fc24 3/23/2016, 6:41:44 PM 79%
1009843 49 to go 1621581315 a4a02510f2f376dff190c59486b370a022f01d45683b62bda83a4708bccdf36e 3/23/2016, 6:26:49 PM 48%
1009833 39 to go 1609202846 a937fead88d2a438e11eeaf0e8596dc0cb92a028831104a02406d9734dbb3718 3/23/2016, 5:48:13 PM 94%
1009831 37 to go 1602611350 65b2b5031e39702b8c5130d6254653cd00fbc7fe1bfd0b6be2664ac98776f09a 3/23/2016, 5:43:46 PM 84%

fluffypony

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Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:19:25 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:17:14 PM

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

He didn't get booted off, the fork was NOT COMPATIBLE with pool software. Onishin is a smart guy, i'm not surprised he fixed it in to time (still took him longer than me

)

No, the pool software was not updated to support a well publicised fork, even though testnet was forked months ago and available for testing. Why and how would a hard fork support outdated software??

primer-

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:17:14 PM

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

He didn't get booted off, the fork was NOT COMPATIBLE with pool software. Onishin is a smart guy, i'm not surprised he fixed it in to time (still took him longer than me

)

robinson5

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 23, 2016, 02:03:50 PM

Quote from: robinson5 on March 23, 2016, 02:02:08 PM

Quote from: smooth on March 22, 2016, 05:37:50 PM

Quote from: robinson5 on March 22, 2016, 05:01:14 PM

So currently monero hides both addresses in a transaction but the amount is visible? And is this mathematically proven anonymity or is it more of a mixing type anonymity?

It has some attributes of both. With ring signatures it is mathematically proven (see white paper) that it is impossible to determine which of the possible spenders (outputs) is the real one. It is like mixing in the sense that each input has a finite set (generally 2-5 in practice though higher mix counts are allowed) of possible outputs and this ends up having a mixing-like effect on the entire blockchain.

It is unlike mixing in that the coins being "mixed" don't need to be spent at the same time (like coinjoin) nor do their owners need to take any active steps to mix (like most mixing systems), nor is there any coordinating central coordinating system that can either steal your coins (like centralized mixers) or serve as a point for tracking and logging (like most if not all coinjoin-based implementations).

Thanks for explaining! So what advantages will RingCT bring and is there a rough idea on when that will be implemented?

See:

https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0005.pdf

&

http://weuse.cash/2016/01/09/tying-up-loose-ends-with-ringct/

There is no specific ETA, somewhere this year is my guess.

That sounds awesome! And you can still monitor the total money supply unlike zcash?

Have any of the devs given an update on the progress for ringct lately?

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 02:11:48 PM

Quote from: nioc on March 23, 2016, 12:53:40 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 12:37:43 PM

Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on March 23, 2016, 12:36:27 PM

Quote from: primer- on March 23, 2016, 12:29:29 PM

Wow, what a failed fork. Difficulty FUCK-UP, no blocks in the last 20+ min... universal-pool not compatible ....

FUCKING AMATEUR DEVS!!!

Right on schedule, Primer-!

Over 50% of the net hash has been cut off, universal-pool requires modifications in order to work. THIS WAS NOT COMMUNICATED to the pool owners.

INCOMPETENT DEVELOPERS!!!

Blocks are being found and the hash rate is only down 20% as expected by smooth in the speculation thread.

How do you expect anybody to take you seriously when you cry wolf?

I hate people who pull numbers from their ass ... Smooth you idiot.

Code:

1009852 60 to go 1621258227 7750098e01c2c457c5e90639883b6be73decb1442931a3bdc018244c6cf75e60 3/23/2016, 7:05:24 PM 83%
1009849 57 to go 1618724176 f20dfbe79664394d9b9920ea7095f516a24b5693f9166a10dbfe63f7db1ddf82 3/23/2016, 6:52:46 PM 84%
1009845 53 to go 1613905042 4977c235f696284b55a42207933c4f045f647ea73efce1e2c280370d0754fc24 3/23/2016, 6:41:44 PM 79%
1009843 51 to go 1621581315 a4a02510f2f376dff190c59486b370a022f01d45683b62bda83a4708bccdf36e 3/23/2016, 6:26:49 PM 48%
1009833 41 to go 1609202846 a937fead88d2a438e11eeaf0e8596dc0cb92a028831104a02406d9734dbb3718 3/23/2016, 5:48:13 PM 94%
1009831 39 to go 1602611350 65b2b5031e39702b8c5130d6254653cd00fbc7fe1bfd0b6be2664ac98776f09a 3/23/2016, 5:43:46 PM 84%

Way more than 20% of hash got cut off otherwise i would not be finding so many blocks with only 350kh/s...

Crypto-pool.fr got booted off for the first 12 blocks or so, but they are finding blocks again now.

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