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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1072. (Read 3314343 times)

sr. member
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September 18, 2016, 02:51:38 PM

I also consider that maybe a whatsapp group to give monero a bit financial support can bail out the shorters very easily with enough cash in backround. Its just a matter of collective bumping. There a lot of short positions open. Atm im neither long nor short...i think about rebuying for 15k

Where?  I haven't noted any significant changes at Poloniex for days.  The only way to bail out shorters is to short bigger so they can buy back lower?  Bumping the price (presumably higher) is not going to bail them out, its going to force them out.  Painfully.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.



sry language barrier xD I meant force out ofc.
sr. member
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September 18, 2016, 02:38:09 PM


ETH and Factom has very limited number of potential usage.
But Monero on the other hand being the most anonymous digital currency has a potential, well, infinity.
My advice for everybody who bought their initial investment at 0.02 or higher is just to keep on accumulating. It is very likely you are pretty well off if you are willing to stay for longer than a few weeks or a few months. Give monero more time, I think you will be happy in 2019-2020 that you had bought Moneros at ATH of 2016 because that was just the beginning - even if there will we more dumps down the line.
It is important to keep the focus on long term when the trolls are convincing to sell to their bids. Let's not feed the hungry trolls.

i can only LAUGH at your statement

do you forget one important factor "GOVERNMENT CONTROL"?

do you think governments will let these dark coins grow BIG so people can avoid tax?

in your DREAM

honestly, i don't see a good future for these dark coins if governments step into

they will survive if they are still in low profile . Take note at it

i agree that these dark coins has cool tech but in governments' eyes , these coins will be blacklisted if they grow so big

there is a reason why bitcoin still survives up until now. Because every transactions are public, everyone can track them Smiley

Note: now XMR is used by dark markets (CRIMINAL markets), do you think governments will let them do that freely ? Smiley

It's if I hear an echo...
In the late ninetees exactly the same thing was told about internet. No way governements would allow these ways of communication.

The power of governements is highly overestimated, it's the money that controls what's happening and sure they won't be happy with the current developments. But atm the current establishment doesn't have a clue. 
hero member
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September 18, 2016, 02:21:24 PM
oh yeah, dream big , boys. Do you think governments will let criminals improve their privacy ? make it harder to keep track

in your dream boys Roll Eyes

and the guy who says FCT has no real value usage is xxxxx. Grin


Obviously regulators do not wish more privacy for criminals (and to be honest, me either).
On the other hand, I wonder how can you prevent Monero? Are you saying the regulators will shut internet down? What are they exactly going to do to prevent Monero from running the race victoriously?


certainly they will not shut the internet down, but trying to mostly control it.
hero member
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September 18, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
I have updated my thread with my thoughts on the current price: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.200

In short I do believe we are heading up and the price is showing good strength overall.

- Cheers brothers

- Blazin8888
legendary
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September 18, 2016, 02:03:09 PM

I also consider that maybe a whatsapp group to give monero a bit financial support can bail out the shorters very easily with enough cash in backround. Its just a matter of collective bumping. There a lot of short positions open. Atm im neither long nor short...i think about rebuying for 15k

Where?  I haven't noted any significant changes at Poloniex for days.  The only way to bail out shorters is to short bigger so they can buy back lower?  Bumping the price (presumably higher) is not going to bail them out, its going to force them out.  Painfully.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

hero member
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September 18, 2016, 02:01:18 PM
oh yeah, dream big , boys. Do you think governments will let criminals improve their privacy ? make it harder to keep track

in your dream boys Roll Eyes

and the guy who says FCT has no real value usage is xxxxx. Grin


IMO "what if" is bad reasoning... only the future can tell if they are doing it or not... the possibility of it happening is such an unknown variable that you cannot call it speculating IMO
legendary
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September 18, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
oh yeah, dream big , boys. Do you think governments will let criminals improve their privacy ? make it harder to keep track

in your dream boys Roll Eyes

and the guy who says FCT has no real value usage is xxxxx. Grin


Obviously regulators do not wish more privacy for criminals (and to be honest, me either).
On the other hand, I wonder how can you prevent Monero? Are you saying the regulators will shut internet down? What are they exactly going to do to prevent Monero from running the race victoriously?
full member
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Chief Technology Officer, NYC
September 18, 2016, 01:24:25 PM
oh yeah, dream big , boys. Do you think governments will let criminals improve their privacy ? make it harder to keep track

in your dream boys Roll Eyes

and the guy who says FCT has no real value usage is xxxxx. Grin




Death to financial privacy!
Long live the global all-seeing blockchain!
The revolution is nearly here comrade!
We won!
We won!

full member
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September 18, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
oh yeah, dream big , boys. Do you think governments will let criminals improve their privacy ? make it harder to keep track

in your dream boys Roll Eyes

and the guy who says FCT has no real value usage is xxxxx. Grin
hero member
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September 18, 2016, 12:40:37 PM

there is a reason why bitcoin still survives up until now. Because every transactions are public, everyone can track them Smiley


Complete nonsense. You think huge companies, the government or anyone else would like their transactions to be tracked and their amount of wealth to be transparent?
Welcome to reality.  Cheesy
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Chief Technology Officer, NYC
September 18, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
i can only LAUGH at your statement

do you forget one important factor "GOVERNMENT CONTROL"?

do you think governments will let these dark coins grow BIG so people can avoid tax?

in your DREAM

honestly, i don't see a good future for these dark coins if governments step into

they will survive if they are still in low profile . Take note at it

i agree that these dark coins has cool tech but in governments' eyes , these coins will be blacklisted if they grow so big

there is a reason why bitcoin still survives up until now. Because every transactions are public, everyone can track them Smiley

Note: now XMR is used by dark markets (CRIMINAL markets), do you think governments will let them do that freely ? Smiley

So for the record, not only would you offer no resistance to the total destruction of financial privacy, but you would actually find it funny?

Perhaps Monero isn't for you.
full member
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September 18, 2016, 12:25:01 PM


ETH and Factom has very limited number of potential usage.
But Monero on the other hand being the most anonymous digital currency has a potential, well, infinity.
My advice for everybody who bought their initial investment at 0.02 or higher is just to keep on accumulating. It is very likely you are pretty well off if you are willing to stay for longer than a few weeks or a few months. Give monero more time, I think you will be happy in 2019-2020 that you had bought Moneros at ATH of 2016 because that was just the beginning - even if there will we more dumps down the line.
It is important to keep the focus on long term when the trolls are convincing to sell to their bids. Let's not feed the hungry trolls.

i can only LAUGH at your statement

do you forget one important factor "GOVERNMENT CONTROL"?

do you think governments will let these dark coins grow BIG so people can avoid tax?

in your DREAM

honestly, i don't see a good future for these dark coins if governments step into

they will survive if they are still in low profile . Take note at it

i agree that these dark coins has cool tech but in governments' eyes , these coins will be blacklisted if they grow so big

there is a reason why bitcoin still survives up until now. Because every transactions are public, everyone can track them Smiley

Note: now XMR is used by dark markets (CRIMINAL markets), do you think governments will let them do that freely ? Smiley
legendary
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September 18, 2016, 08:29:42 AM
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 18, 2016, 08:23:06 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/18/central-bankers-group-bis-stark-warning-world-economy

and September is traditionally a month when financial crises/corrections manifest themselves.

An interesting couple of weeks ahead.

These next few months are critical and going to be volatile (probably).

The after effects will be drawn out over years possibly decades.
legendary
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Dumb broad
September 18, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/18/central-bankers-group-bis-stark-warning-world-economy

and September is traditionally a month when financial crises/corrections manifest themselves.

An interesting couple of weeks ahead.
legendary
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September 18, 2016, 05:53:20 AM
DAWN
legendary
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September 18, 2016, 05:47:10 AM
I think the fact that some darknet markets have begun accepting Monero means the price will eventually go up.
If it would become 1:1 with Bitcoin is really hard to say.
(But it would be awesome since I would make a bit of profit LOL)

I am terrible in predicting with the price movements in the short run but I speculate Monero is higher 1 year from now than it is today.

I'm very confident about that. ETH will fail, Factom too. A lot of people will panic sell there soon when more media will unleash the real negative facts about these coins and why they will fail.

Read this: https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcoinblog.de%2F2016%2F06%2F02%2Fethereum-ein-schlechtes-digitales-gold-aber-ein-gutes-programmierbares-geld%2F&edit-text=

XRM has no negative aspects.

ETH and Factom has very limited number of potential usage.
But Monero on the other hand being the most anonymous digital currency has a potential, well, infinity.
My advice for everybody who bought their initial investment at 0.02 or higher is just to keep on accumulating. It is very likely you are pretty well off if you are willing to stay for longer than a few weeks or a few months. Give monero more time, I think you will be happy in 2019-2020 that you had bought Moneros at ATH of 2016 because that was just the beginning - even if there will we more dumps down the line.
It is important to keep the focus on long term when the trolls are convincing to sell to their bids. Let's not feed the hungry trolls.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
September 18, 2016, 05:40:14 AM
I think the fact that some darknet markets have begun accepting Monero means the price will eventually go up.
If it would become 1:1 with Bitcoin is really hard to say.
(But it would be awesome since I would make a bit of profit LOL)

I am terrible in predicting with the price movements in the short run but I speculate Monero is higher 1 year from now than it is today.

I'm very confident about that. ETH will fail, Factom too. A lot of people will panic sell there soon when more media will unleash the real negative facts about these coins and why they will fail.

Read this: https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcoinblog.de%2F2016%2F06%2F02%2Fethereum-ein-schlechtes-digitales-gold-aber-ein-gutes-programmierbares-geld%2F&edit-text=

XRM has no negative aspects.
sr. member
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September 18, 2016, 05:32:33 AM
Glad to see the price is up today, I hope it will continue to go back to its peak price. Still cannot realize any profit but at least I was able to minimize my loses, with it go back to 0.02 this month or not?


People buying XMR at current prices are literally paying pennies on the dollars and probably they are not aware of it even... 

?

If you think Monero will reach 1:1 ratio with bitcoin someday, it means every around 1.5 cents invested into Monero today will be worth of 1 dollar (assuming bitcoin will have the same price in the future) because Monero represents only around 1.5 % of the price of bitcoin.

Some people have even a big chutzpah to claim 1 XMR will be worth more than 1 btc.

Got ya.

I also think Monero has a good future its the better coin.

I also consider that maybe a whatsapp group to give monero a bit financial support can bail out the shorters very easily with enough cash in backround. Its just a matter of collective bumping. There a lot of short positions open. Atm im neither long nor short...i think about rebuying for 15k
legendary
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September 18, 2016, 05:31:44 AM
I think the fact that some darknet markets have begun accepting Monero means the price will eventually go up.
If it would become 1:1 with Bitcoin is really hard to say.
(But it would be awesome since I would make a bit of profit LOL)

DNM are used to use bitcoin. Now Monero has taken its share from the markets. The share is zero sum game. Thus, that piece of news is definetely giving an advantage to Monero over bitcoin when it comes to the speed of growth. If Monero keeps on growing in faster rate long enough it will eventually happen
Now the big question is will Monero keep on growing at faster rate than bitcoin. Probably yes at least for some time because Monero is younger and the userbase is still relatively small (= XMR has a lot more potential to grow than the userbase of bitcoin has).

I am terrible in predicting with the price movements in the short run but I speculate Monero is higher 1 year from now than it is today.
Remember, the growth might be drastic. It really is all about liquidity, when the buyers see their bids are not getting filled, they need to raise their bids which will set another push to the price and marketcap.
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