[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 122.

elrippos friend

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Quote from: Hueristic on November 28, 2019, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: elrippos friend on November 28, 2019, 05:11:07 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on November 27, 2019, 10:52:57 PM

Quote from: Febo on November 27, 2019, 08:24:31 PM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 26, 2019, 01:01:13 PM

I am interested in the fact XMR volume seems to be on the rise, or at least staying solid.

Any thoughts?

There is a lot of talk about Monero. Any kind of talk. New protocol upgrade. New mining algo. Listing on exchanges and of exchanges. Bad guys trying to spread malware to mine Monero. Different crypto influencers talk about all that. When people learn about Monero are shocked of 0.1 cent transaction fees. And mostly are shocked, that Monero actually is what they thought they got when first bought Bitcoin.

Monero have usecase and it is used. That is why price when going down will go much less as of other useless coins. Monero ZEC price flippering happened a month or two ago. Now you can already get 2 ZEC for a Monero.

You hit that nail on the head, now if only the eco system gets integrated into mainstream markets. Also the transaction fees are something you don't hear enough about, I'm glad you mentioned that.

It is a bit like mainstream media in the crypto world. The more users you gain, the uninformed user base grows, so this is a thing about education Grin

No, you can never educate the masses. All you can do is provide them the tools to protect themselves and then convince them to use those tools.

The majority are morons who are manipulated by TPTB to believe what is good for the elite is good for them.

Well you can try Cheesy

Mbatu

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Monero is awesome!
I love real privacy cryptos: Monero and the up and coming Mimble Wimble tech like Grin and Epic Cash.
People need to know!

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: elrippos friend on November 28, 2019, 05:11:07 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on November 27, 2019, 10:52:57 PM

Quote from: Febo on November 27, 2019, 08:24:31 PM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 26, 2019, 01:01:13 PM

I am interested in the fact XMR volume seems to be on the rise, or at least staying solid.

Any thoughts?

There is a lot of talk about Monero. Any kind of talk. New protocol upgrade. New mining algo. Listing on exchanges and of exchanges. Bad guys trying to spread malware to mine Monero. Different crypto influencers talk about all that. When people learn about Monero are shocked of 0.1 cent transaction fees. And mostly are shocked, that Monero actually is what they thought they got when first bought Bitcoin.

Monero have usecase and it is used. That is why price when going down will go much less as of other useless coins. Monero ZEC price flippering happened a month or two ago. Now you can already get 2 ZEC for a Monero.

You hit that nail on the head, now if only the eco system gets integrated into mainstream markets. Also the transaction fees are something you don't hear enough about, I'm glad you mentioned that.

It is a bit like mainstream media in the crypto world. The more users you gain, the uninformed user base grows, so this is a thing about education Grin

No, you can never educate the masses. All you can do is provide them the tools to protect themselves and then convince them to use those tools.

The majority are morons who are manipulated by TPTB to believe what is good for the elite is good for them.

elrippos friend

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Activity: 1179

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only hodl what you understand and love!

Quote from: Hueristic on November 27, 2019, 10:52:57 PM

Quote from: Febo on November 27, 2019, 08:24:31 PM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 26, 2019, 01:01:13 PM

I am interested in the fact XMR volume seems to be on the rise, or at least staying solid.

Any thoughts?

There is a lot of talk about Monero. Any kind of talk. New protocol upgrade. New mining algo. Listing on exchanges and of exchanges. Bad guys trying to spread malware to mine Monero. Different crypto influencers talk about all that. When people learn about Monero are shocked of 0.1 cent transaction fees. And mostly are shocked, that Monero actually is what they thought they got when first bought Bitcoin.

Monero have usecase and it is used. That is why price when going down will go much less as of other useless coins. Monero ZEC price flippering happened a month or two ago. Now you can already get 2 ZEC for a Monero.

You hit that nail on the head, now if only the eco system gets integrated into mainstream markets. Also the transaction fees are something you don't hear enough about, I'm glad you mentioned that.

It is a bit like mainstream media in the crypto world. The more users you gain, the uninformed user base grows, so this is a thing about education Grin

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: Febo on November 27, 2019, 08:24:31 PM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 26, 2019, 01:01:13 PM

I am interested in the fact XMR volume seems to be on the rise, or at least staying solid.

Any thoughts?

There is a lot of talk about Monero. Any kind of talk. New protocol upgrade. New mining algo. Listing on exchanges and of exchanges. Bad guys trying to spread malware to mine Monero. Different crypto influencers talk about all that. When people learn about Monero are shocked of 0.1 cent transaction fees. And mostly are shocked, that Monero actually is what they thought they got when first bought Bitcoin.

Monero have usecase and it is used. That is why price when going down will go much less as of other useless coins. Monero ZEC price flippering happened a month or two ago. Now you can already get 2 ZEC for a Monero.

You hit that nail on the head, now if only the eco system gets integrated into mainstream markets. Also the transaction fees are something you don't hear enough about, I'm glad you mentioned that.

Febo

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 26, 2019, 01:01:13 PM

I am interested in the fact XMR volume seems to be on the rise, or at least staying solid.

Any thoughts?

There is a lot of talk about Monero. Any kind of talk. New protocol upgrade. New mining algo. Listing on exchanges and of exchanges. Bad guys trying to spread malware to mine Monero. Different crypto influencers talk about all that. When people learn about Monero are shocked of 0.1 cent transaction fees. And mostly are shocked, that Monero actually is what they thought they got when first bought Bitcoin.

Monero have usecase and it is used. That is why price when going down will go much less as of other useless coins. Monero ZEC price flippering happened a month or two ago. Now you can already get 2 ZEC for a Monero.

cAPSLOCK

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

I am interested in the fact XMR volume seems to be on the rise, or at least staying solid.

Any thoughts?

Hueristic

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Activity: 3836

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on November 23, 2019, 01:19:11 PM

GUI v0.15.0.1 'Carbon Chamaeleon' released!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/e0j98n/gui_v01501_carbon_chamaeleon_released/

CLI v0.15.0.1 'Carbon Chamaeleon' released!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/e0j5s1/cli_v01501_carbon_chamaeleon_released/

Don't forget to check the signatures peops.

dEBRUYNE

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GUI v0.15.0.1 'Carbon Chamaeleon' released!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/e0j98n/gui_v01501_carbon_chamaeleon_released/

CLI v0.15.0.1 'Carbon Chamaeleon' released!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/e0j5s1/cli_v01501_carbon_chamaeleon_released/

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: Febo on November 22, 2019, 08:07:19 PM

Quote from: phishead on November 22, 2019, 08:17:34 AM

Quote from: Febo on November 21, 2019, 04:41:51 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

Actually there are 12 versions. You can see map of full nodes here. https://community.xmr.to/network/ It looks like no one runs first 8 versions. around 1/3 already runs new binaries. 10 days ahead of schedule.

Monero forks to upgrade its protocol. Since it is on the edge of technology, there is so much development that it had to happen every half year. Now Monero is quite built and all this progress should slowly slow down. Since Monero ecosystem grow over time, this protocol upgrades are harder and harder to smoothly accomplish(more smaller exchanges and merchants, that dont have time to monitor Monero development, need to upgrade). We will for sure see new upgrade in spring next year, then my speculation is that they might move to be every year instead of every half year as right now. But I could be totally wrong. And there could come some sudden easy to implement innovation that would make Monero transactions faster, smaller or harder to trace.

Imo, it should continue to be every 6 months-a year indefinitely. I think allowing things to stagnate would be the worst thing for Monero, because you can see what happens to things like Bitcoin if politics get in the way of improving the protocol and keeping “up-to date” tech in.

Some updates need hardfork and some dont. Talking about this is beyond my knowledge. And is so far ahead. It is just how I heard people feel. Bitcoin is unmovable object. Even unstoppable force could not move it an inch.

monero security has been breached, official websites serving exploits and otherwised compromised by teenaged American pimple faced nerds!! Cheesy

reeeeeee

boomboom

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Globb0

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Stagnating Maturing

Febo

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Quote from: phishead on November 22, 2019, 08:17:34 AM

Quote from: Febo on November 21, 2019, 04:41:51 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

Actually there are 12 versions. You can see map of full nodes here. https://community.xmr.to/network/ It looks like no one runs first 8 versions. around 1/3 already runs new binaries. 10 days ahead of schedule.

Monero forks to upgrade its protocol. Since it is on the edge of technology, there is so much development that it had to happen every half year. Now Monero is quite built and all this progress should slowly slow down. Since Monero ecosystem grow over time, this protocol upgrades are harder and harder to smoothly accomplish(more smaller exchanges and merchants, that dont have time to monitor Monero development, need to upgrade). We will for sure see new upgrade in spring next year, then my speculation is that they might move to be every year instead of every half year as right now. But I could be totally wrong. And there could come some sudden easy to implement innovation that would make Monero transactions faster, smaller or harder to trace.

Imo, it should continue to be every 6 months-a year indefinitely. I think allowing things to stagnate would be the worst thing for Monero, because you can see what happens to things like Bitcoin if politics get in the way of improving the protocol and keeping “up-to date” tech in.

Some updates need hardfork and some dont. Talking about this is beyond my knowledge. And is so far ahead. It is just how I heard people feel. Bitcoin is unmovable object. Even unstoppable force could not move it an inch.

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: phishead on November 22, 2019, 08:17:34 AM

Quote from: Febo on November 21, 2019, 04:41:51 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

Actually there are 12 versions. You can see map of full nodes here. https://community.xmr.to/network/ It looks like no one runs first 8 versions. around 1/3 already runs new binaries. 10 days ahead of schedule.

Monero forks to upgrade its protocol. Since it is on the edge of technology, there is so much development that it had to happen every half year. Now Monero is quite built and all this progress should slowly slow down. Since Monero ecosystem grow over time, this protocol upgrades are harder and harder to smoothly accomplish(more smaller exchanges and merchants, that dont have time to monitor Monero development, need to upgrade). We will for sure see new upgrade in spring next year, then my speculation is that they might move to be every year instead of every half year as right now. But I could be totally wrong. And there could come some sudden easy to implement innovation that would make Monero transactions faster, smaller or harder to trace.

Imo, it should continue to be every 6 months-a year indefinitely. I think allowing things to stagnate would be the worst thing for Monero, because you can see what happens to things like Bitcoin if politics get in the way of improving the protocol and keeping “up-to date” tech in.

what individual controls the repo? Roll Eyes

lmfao

phishead

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Quote from: Febo on November 21, 2019, 04:41:51 PM

Quote from: bitcoinvest on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

Actually there are 12 versions. You can see map of full nodes here. https://community.xmr.to/network/ It looks like no one runs first 8 versions. around 1/3 already runs new binaries. 10 days ahead of schedule.

Monero forks to upgrade its protocol. Since it is on the edge of technology, there is so much development that it had to happen every half year. Now Monero is quite built and all this progress should slowly slow down. Since Monero ecosystem grow over time, this protocol upgrades are harder and harder to smoothly accomplish(more smaller exchanges and merchants, that dont have time to monitor Monero development, need to upgrade). We will for sure see new upgrade in spring next year, then my speculation is that they might move to be every year instead of every half year as right now. But I could be totally wrong. And there could come some sudden easy to implement innovation that would make Monero transactions faster, smaller or harder to trace.

Imo, it should continue to be every 6 months-a year indefinitely. I think allowing things to stagnate would be the worst thing for Monero, because you can see what happens to things like Bitcoin if politics get in the way of improving the protocol and keeping “up-to date” tech in.

Globb0

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Febo

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Quote from: bitcoinvest on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

Actually there are 12 versions. You can see map of full nodes here. https://community.xmr.to/network/ It looks like no one runs first 8 versions. around 1/3 already runs new binaries. 10 days ahead of schedule.

Monero forks to upgrade its protocol. Since it is on the edge of technology, there is so much development that it had to happen every half year. Now Monero is quite built and all this progress should slowly slow down. Since Monero ecosystem grow over time, this protocol upgrades are harder and harder to smoothly accomplish(more smaller exchanges and merchants, that dont have time to monitor Monero development, need to upgrade). We will for sure see new upgrade in spring next year, then my speculation is that they might move to be every year instead of every half year as right now. But I could be totally wrong. And there could come some sudden easy to implement innovation that would make Monero transactions faster, smaller or harder to trace.

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on November 21, 2019, 12:22:16 PM

I'm sorry but these comments are generally not helpful and are also uninformed.

In reality we call these things network upgrades.

Monero is providing (as usual) a fairly valuable testbed for the entire crypto space in doing what we are doing here.

These forks are specifically aimed at ASIC resistance which is a hotly debated topic across the crypto space. Personally I am in favor of selecting a commoditizable algorithm (such as SHA-3) but since the community is valuing trying one more shot at ASIC resistance then I will go along with them.

This fork has nothing to do with creating a new coin, or anything like that. There are certainly arguments that can be made for and against this approach, but there are not currently being made above.

I suggest brushing up on the topic. The github, or reddit are good places to learn about what we are doing and why.

TL;DR ===> BOT NET FRIENDLY HARDFORK INKOMINGGGG Cheesy

REEEE

cAPSLOCK

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

I'm sorry but these comments are generally not helpful and are also uninformed.

In reality we call these things network upgrades.

Monero is providing (as usual) a fairly valuable testbed for the entire crypto space in doing what we are doing here.

These forks are specifically aimed at ASIC resistance which is a hotly debated topic across the crypto space. Personally I am in favor of selecting a commoditizable algorithm (such as SHA-3) but since the community is valuing trying one more shot at ASIC resistance then I will go along with them.

This fork has nothing to do with creating a new coin, or anything like that. There are certainly arguments that can be made for and against this approach, but there are not currently being made above.

I suggest brushing up on the topic. The github, or reddit are good places to learn about what we are doing and why.

gembitz

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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*

Quote from: bitcoinvest on November 21, 2019, 09:33:59 AM

why on earth Monero needs fork? i think we have 3-4 versions already ( i might be wrong maybe more - can't keep up with those forks )

fluffy pony and his government yes men flexing their dominance over the codebase pure and simple. Grin

reeee

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