[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1389.

GingerAle

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Quote from: CryptoAddict on April 01, 2016, 09:57:10 AM

I'm impressed by the fact that we are cruising sideways through Dump City.

Yeah, I'd speculate there's some interesting psychologicals and rationale going on... well, at least in my head this is my conundrum.

"damnit. I shoulda got monero when it was cheaper. Maybe it will get cheaper again."

"But the GUI is coming out soon, there's actually a paid developer on it now..."

"Well I guess Monero is likely to get more expensive than cheaper in the next year, so I should probably try to pick some up at any price"

speculate. DARKFLARB

vuduchyld

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Quote from: binaryFate on April 01, 2016, 09:07:48 AM

Quote from: vuduchyld on April 01, 2016, 08:53:48 AM

All you've got are dev teams, technological differentiation, and other things that you can only hold OPINIONS about.

I disagree. Technical differences are quickly large enough that you can't talk solely of "opinions" when comparing them.
For instance, compare the DarkFlarb code base now, and the DarkFlarb code base 1.5 years ago. I woudn't call that an opinion, in fact this is quantifiable enough to be called a technical "fundamental".

Economically, I agree there isn't much fundamentals to talk about. Apart from uᴉoɔʇᴉq, no crypto really has any ecosystem at all.

I'll buy that. I think you're correct when you say that the differences are not just opinions, certainly among the learned (i.e. not me!).

But to be more precise, I'd say technical differences and code bases don't translate to value the same way earnings or user metrics do. That is all opinion/speculation.

CryptoAddict

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I'm impressed by the fact that we are cruising sideways through Dump City.

binaryFate

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Quote from: vuduchyld on April 01, 2016, 08:53:48 AM

All you've got are dev teams, technological differentiation, and other things that you can only hold OPINIONS about.

I disagree. Technical differences are quickly large enough that you can't talk solely of "opinions" when comparing them.
For instance, compare the Monero code base now, and the Monero code base 1.5 years ago. I woudn't call that an opinion, in fact this is quantifiable enough to be called a technical "fundamental".

Economically, I agree there isn't much fundamentals to talk about. Apart from Bitcoin, no crypto really has any ecosystem at all.

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Quote from: XMRpromotions on April 01, 2016, 04:51:43 AM

Seeing all these charts makes me feel in the minority for largely ignoring technical data in favor of fundamentals.

I'm not a technicals trader, for the most part, but what exactly do you mean when you say fundamentals? I don't see where any cryptos have what I would call quantifiable fundamentals.

MAYBE with bitcoin you could look at things like user metrics, number of addresses, transactions. But Ethereum has, well, nothing at all to evaluate. From DASH on down on the coinmarketcap chart, you're talking about total market caps of $50 million and down. There are no cash flows, no earnings, nothing fundamental to evaluate.

All you've got are dev teams, technological differentiation, and other things that you can only hold OPINIONS about.

This shit is pretty much pure speculation, I'd say.

papa_lazzarou

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Quote from: Hueristic on March 31, 2016, 11:26:07 AM

I want to know who made that 500k transaction and why they did it knowing it would be noticed? How will that benefit them? I think it only hurts the worth as a whole to know that much at least is held by one entity. Was it another scare tactic to keep suppressing the value for accumulation?

FYI the 500k input tx happened way back in july 2014

http://moneroblocks.info/block/131942

bitebits

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Quote from: CrowdWhale on March 31, 2016, 04:10:26 PM

Oh look, you moved your wall from 430 to 400. Hold on while I go panic dump. :p

Are you now talking against a DarkFlarb wall? I thought I had seen it all Cheesy

Apparently your greed is still bigger than your fear of losing money. Don't blame the tiny Monero market (makers) for your potentially future losses.

XMRpromotions

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Seeing all these charts makes me feel in the minority for largely ignoring technical data in favor of fundamentals.

dnaleor

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Quote from: CrowdWhale on April 01, 2016, 02:00:34 AM

By my standards for illiquid crypto markets, I'd say the channel is still intact.

Well, if you draw it differently, it's still consistent:

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By my standards for illiquid crypto markets, I'd say the channel is still intact.

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Quote from: r0ach on March 31, 2016, 10:03:45 PM

Wow, forum is screwed. The word uᴉoɔʇᴉq prints upside down and it replaced the word "m o n e r o" with "darkflarb"

Ugh, you’ve got what the deepwebz call “a very AOL mindset”, Roachy. It’s more complicated out here. This isn’t money, these are DarkFlarbs. You understand what two humans can accomplish with three-thousand ‘a these?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Darkflarb/

ArticMine

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Quote from: Monerobuyer0 on March 31, 2016, 05:52:53 PM

I would prefer it if XMR rose steadily over time and did not allow margin traders to come in and make big profits off us and then leave, taking our btc away with them. If the whale is trying to keep our rise more steady by holding the price down when its rising too fast, and punishing margin traders, then more power to him.

The environment in DarkFlarb in 2016 has been great for any long term buy and holder. Keep it up whales. Steady rise over time, no huge spikes and dumps.

I value the speculator because speculators provide liquidity and accept risk. A highly liquid market is important so that a vibrant economy can develop and merchants can accept Monero. In many markets speculators provide a very valuable service by taking on the market risk. This allows those engage in productive activities to hedge their positions. One of the strong aspects of Monero is that it is a very liquid coin for its size, and we can thank speculators and margin traders in part for that.

The Sceptical Chymist

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We are under a serious April fool's day attack I'd say. At least I know I'm not hallucinating.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on March 31, 2016, 10:30:46 PM

Quote from: r0ach on March 31, 2016, 10:03:45 PM

Wow, forum is screwed. The word uᴉoɔʇᴉq prints upside down and it replaced the word "m o n e r o" with "darkflarb"

Dish collapsing, DarkFlarb UP! Cool

Wtf is a Dish and DarkFlarb. Sounds like a strong buy!

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: r0ach on March 31, 2016, 10:03:45 PM

Wow, forum is screwed. The word uᴉoɔʇᴉq prints upside down and it replaced the word "m o n e r o" with "darkflarb"

Dish collapsing, DarkFlarb UP! Cool

Hueristic

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 31, 2016, 01:25:50 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on March 31, 2016, 01:07:26 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on March 31, 2016, 12:57:54 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on March 31, 2016, 12:51:28 PM

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In that case the wallet owner could easily have moved smaller amounts with mixing to not be noticed. This was intentional.

It is possible it was an exchange, if so I would like them to affirm that. *cough Polo

RingCT will take care of this.

Really? Nice wanna give a ELIA rundown?

BTW does anyone use b itcointa.lk?

[1] Read -> http://weuse.cash/2016/01/09/tying-up-loose-ends-with-ringct/

[2] Why would you use that instead? Seems like a possible password grabber.

1) Thx

2) That was my question.

Quote from: r0ach on March 31, 2016, 10:03:45 PM

Wow, forum is screwed. The word uᴉoɔʇᴉq prints upside down and it replaced the word "m o n e r o" with "darkflarb"

Hmm, I think I would check the date.

r0ach

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Wow, forum is screwed. The word uᴉoɔʇᴉq prints upside down and it replaced the word "m o n e r o" with "darkflarb"

newb4now

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For those freaking out about the price and buy and sell walls, I recommend not logging into the exchange so much. Instead look at GitHub and evaluate progress there instead.

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Quote from: americanpegasus on March 31, 2016, 09:12:10 PM

I encourage you goobers to censor yourselves before thread moderator has to go on a deleting spree.

Yes, I tried to tell him, but he's a wrecking ball. Oops, was that a name? Wink

Quote from: americanpegasus on March 31, 2016, 09:12:10 PM

In other news, XMR seem to be a coin flip to me at the moment, even though I am still perpetually long (never sell XMR spot once acquired! - pegasus #1 rule). We probably needed a consolidation period, and this 330 area formed support before - it was healthy to return here and shake out some margin longs who jumped on the azure news. Next major support would be 270, but I'm not sure if the price will be able to sink that low before moving to new levels.

Selling dropped off to minimums recently, and I do think we will break out of our 4-hr downtrend at this rate and possibly begin a new bull channel for 4-hr candles. Let's see what magic April brings for our little crypto.

The lack of liquidity in these markets allows for a little painting outside the lines. This one barely nudged out and has done so before. I don't think the present channel is invalidated. It basically hit the bottom of the channel and then went sideways long enough to drift slightly under. Totally permissible in this environment. TA (usually just the most basic) is still useful in higher volume crypto markets, as long as you allow for some wiggle room.

lolikop

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OMG no XMR cant go up now we didnt reach 299k yet Roll Eyes

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