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March 29, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
No all i see is 5 hours of work done a week so monero GUI will be released 30 weeks from now

How much have you contributed to grease the wheels?
hero member
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March 29, 2016, 08:24:12 PM
Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now

You should donate  1/2 of your holdings to the dev fund, that might speed things up.

That's pretty silly.

The GUI work is already funded, and it is under way. If someone thinks that mainstream adoption is right around the corner and the only thing holding it back is the GUI not being finished, and therefore "fuck it I'm out", I'm without words.



Yes, this is normally what happens when there is a big pump. We get some fair weather friends, the pump stalls or reverses a bit and they're gone as fast as they arrived. It's all good.


No all i see is 5 hours of work done a week so monero GUI will be released 30 weeks from now
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 08:23:28 PM

The major news in XMR is the hard fork.  It demonstrates that the core team's plan for managing the technical evolution of XMR is viable.  That means XMR can adapt to changing realities.  Unlike some other coins.  I am quite sure that others can enumerate a large number of other new developments in XMR, but this is the one that has me psyched.


# of nodes before the fork = ~200
# of nodes after the fork = ~200

no change


https://monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html

 hash rate took a slightly deeper and longer dip than 'normal', but recovered quite quickly.  All in all, pretty damn Smooth  Cool
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
#of high uptime nodes before 0.9 was ~100, so we've doubled nodes since january 1.
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 08:10:43 PM

The major news in XMR is the hard fork.  It demonstrates that the core team's plan for managing the technical evolution of XMR is viable.  That means XMR can adapt to changing realities.  Unlike some other coins.  I am quite sure that others can enumerate a large number of other new developments in XMR, but this is the one that has me psyched.


# of nodes before the fork = ~200
# of nodes after the fork = ~200

no change


https://monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html
hero member
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March 29, 2016, 08:08:44 PM
Those who saved their money in Bitcoin from $1 to $8 and then stopped because they didn't want to be 'overweight in Bitcoin' surely regretted it.  The smart ones bought Bitcoin all the way up to $30 and then all the way down to $2, and then back up.

Nonsense. They're only smart with the hindsight of an $1100 ATH. Had the price dropped below $1 and never returned, you probably wouldn't be calling them smart.

Foolishness working out in your favor doesn't make you less foolish.
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now

You should donate  1/2 of your holdings to the dev fund, that might speed things up.

That's pretty silly.

The GUI work is already funded, and it is under way. If someone thinks that mainstream adoption is right around the corner and the only thing holding it back is the GUI not being finished, and therefore "fuck it I'm out", I'm without words.



Yes, this is normally what happens when there is a big pump. We get some fair weather friends, the pump stalls or reverses a bit and they're gone as fast as they arrived. It's all good.
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1008
March 29, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now

Why sell an amazing coin?

BTW, how/what have you contributed to the development of Monero?

Edit: Hi explorer  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2016
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March 29, 2016, 08:02:37 PM
Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now

You should donate  1/2 of your holdings to the dev fund, that might speed things up.
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
March 29, 2016, 08:00:58 PM
Those who saved their money in Bitcoin from $1 to $8 and then stopped because they didn't want to be 'overweight in Bitcoin' surely regretted it.  The smart ones bought Bitcoin all the way up to $30 and then all the way down to $2, and then back up.

I could own more XMR than I do.  But I think that if I own too much, then it is bad for the economy and the culture.  Most people don't want to get very wealthy.  Most who do want to get very wealthy probably shouldn't.  Personally, I am trying to maximize wealth because I have a purpose for it, which I consider very important, superceding my personal interests.  But even for that purpose, there is an optimal proportion of the XMR distribution which I seek to own.  If I own more, I prefer to sell.  I currently own too much of the current distribution, but not enough of the long-term distribution, so I feel free to accumulate, in a small way, until I own an optimal proportion of the 18mm XMR distributed before maintenance rewards kick in.  As the economy grows, that notional optimum will decrease over time: When there are goods and services being transacted in XMR routinely, the velocity of the float needs to be reasonable in order for the economy to grow.  If the velocity appears to be a limiting factor, I will definitely distribute, regardless of the price.

Focusing exclusively on maximizing personal wealth is not a good plan, in my opinion.  If you are just going to waste it on hedonic excess, I think you will soon find yourself on a meaningless hedonic treadmill.  The end thereof is death.  Personally, I seek to maximize meaningfulness.  That is a diverse, complex and moving target, but philanthropy certainly helps, as do healthy interpersonal relationships, and a project agenda.



This begs the obvious question of how much XMR one should hold? I am adding a few btc a week at the moment.
 
  While there are fewer holders, a greater chunk is harmless in benevolent hands.  If you hold 18K, (currently ~11k XMR) there can't be 1000 others like you. That is a lot for one entity to control, and yet at times that has been as little as 18 BTC,  or $5K.  Accessible to most anyone in the western world with a job or a credit card.  Even now 30k USD for 1/1000 of the pie is kind of ridiculously cheap.  IMO to hold that or more should be part of a plan to redistribute as user base increases.  Since there are most certainly entities with 10X that amount and more, we just have to hope that greed is enough to get them to redistribute as time goes on, and in a responsible manner.
  Extreme wealth sounds like more headaches than it is worth, unless you have a plan for it like aminorex.  I will be content to just nibble around the edges of extreme wealth, from time to time :p  Low profile works for me.  If I can provide security for my family, perhaps contribute in some way to my community, I will be well pleased.  Not everyone wants to rule the world with a target on their back.  I'm happy to leave that to the young and ambitious.
hero member
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March 29, 2016, 08:00:01 PM
Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now

XMR has a great dev team. They have done a lot of work in the past few years. It is all about priorities:

https://getmonero.org/design-goals/

legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
March 29, 2016, 07:48:10 PM
The very best humans find a healthy balance between hedonism and meaningfulness. 
 
WWTSD?



Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now

legendary
Activity: 1596
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Sine secretum non libertas
March 29, 2016, 07:45:32 PM
how much XMR one should hold? I am adding a few btc a week at the moment.

I wouldn't worry about it as long as the usage is primarily speculation.  When there is a real economy, however, you've got to share, or you will be strangling your own golden goose.  I don't have strong principled quantitative criteria.  We're not there yet anyhow.


hero member
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March 29, 2016, 07:39:51 PM
Let me tell u the real problem with XMR.

its the devs, they dont work hard enough to make this wonderful coin succeed im waiting for 2 years for an GUI wallet not that i cant run a simplewallet !!!

its about adoption we need a GUI to go mainstream but the devs are taking it easy lets wait another year or maybe 3 years fk it im out for now
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 07:07:19 PM
Now, what happens when we apply to Bitcoinocracy's coin voting the extrapolation logic used by Classic supporters when they asked demanded slush split his entire pool's block voting according to the expressed preferences of the can-bother-to-vote subset?   Wink

A lot of politics is what happens, not limited to this particular manifestation of course.
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 07:06:00 PM
Those who saved their money in Bitcoin from $1 to $8 and then stopped because they didn't want to be 'overweight in Bitcoin' surely regretted it.  The smart ones bought Bitcoin all the way up to $30 and then all the way down to $2, and then back up.

I could own more XMR than I do.  But I think that if I own too much, then it is bad for the economy and the culture.  Most people don't want to get very wealthy.  Most who do want to get very wealthy probably shouldn't.  Personally, I am trying to maximize wealth because I have a purpose for it, which I consider very important, superceding my personal interests.  But even for that purpose, there is an optimal proportion of the XMR distribution which I seek to own.  If I own more, I prefer to sell.  I currently own too much of the current distribution, but not enough of the long-term distribution, so I feel free to accumulate, in a small way, until I own an optimal proportion of the 18mm XMR distributed before maintenance rewards kick in.  As the economy grows, that notional optimum will decrease over time: When there are goods and services being transacted in XMR routinely, the velocity of the float needs to be reasonable in order for the economy to grow.  If the velocity appears to be a limiting factor, I will definitely distribute, regardless of the price.

Focusing exclusively on maximizing personal wealth is not a good plan, in my opinion.  If you are just going to waste it on hedonic excess, I think you will soon find yourself on a meaningless hedonic treadmill.  The end thereof is death.  Personally, I seek to maximize meaningfulness.  That is a diverse, complex and moving target, but philanthropy certainly helps, as do healthy interpersonal relationships, and a project agenda.



This begs the obvious question of how much XMR one should hold? I am adding a few btc a week at the moment.
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March 29, 2016, 06:55:00 PM
money always seems more meaningful with a solid plan to establish a cash flow with it.
hero member
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March 29, 2016, 06:54:13 PM
The very best humans find a healthy balance between hedonism and meaningfulness. 
 
WWTSD?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
March 29, 2016, 06:34:55 PM
Those who saved their money in Bitcoin from $1 to $8 and then stopped because they didn't want to be 'overweight in Bitcoin' surely regretted it.  The smart ones bought Bitcoin all the way up to $30 and then all the way down to $2, and then back up.

I could own more XMR than I do.  But I think that if I own too much, then it is bad for the economy and the culture.  Most people don't want to get very wealthy.  Most who do want to get very wealthy probably shouldn't.  Personally, I am trying to maximize wealth because I have a purpose for it, which I consider very important, superceding my personal interests.  But even for that purpose, there is an optimal proportion of the XMR distribution which I seek to own.  If I own more, I prefer to sell.  I currently own too much of the current distribution, but not enough of the long-term distribution, so I feel free to accumulate, in a small way, until I own an optimal proportion of the 18mm XMR distributed before maintenance rewards kick in.  As the economy grows, that notional optimum will decrease over time: When there are goods and services being transacted in XMR routinely, the velocity of the float needs to be reasonable in order for the economy to grow.  If the velocity appears to be a limiting factor, I will definitely distribute, regardless of the price.

Focusing exclusively on maximizing personal wealth is not a good plan, in my opinion.  If you are just going to waste it on hedonic excess, I think you will soon find yourself on a meaningless hedonic treadmill.  The end thereof is death.  Personally, I seek to maximize meaningfulness.  That is a diverse, complex and moving target, but philanthropy certainly helps, as do healthy interpersonal relationships, and a project agenda.

hero member
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March 29, 2016, 06:13:11 PM
I usually agree with you wholeheartedly but do not agree on that last part. 
 
Those who saved their money in Bitcoin from $1 to $8 and then stopped because they didn't want to be 'overweight in Bitcoin' surely regretted it.  The smart ones bought Bitcoin all the way up to $30 and then all the way down to $2, and then back up.
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