[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1461.

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Quote from: kurious on March 14, 2016, 12:50:26 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 12:43:16 PM

Quote from: kurious on March 14, 2016, 12:42:33 PM

Anyone else Struggling with getting onto Poloniex?

They are getting DDOSed:

https://twitter.com/Poloniex

Ah OK thanks. Was a little buggy earlier on, now it's totally down.

I suppose it's inevitable they'd get a little more 'attention' with so much more volume.

I was able to access the deposits and withdraws page, but I got a 403 forbidden on the exchange. So thats nice - you can presumably still access your funds.

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Quote from: ArticMine on March 14, 2016, 11:38:09 AM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 10:52:49 AM

"Gold, Bitcoin And Economic Freedom" - Monero mentioned:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3958137-gold-bitcoin-economic-freedom

Given the topic of the article what I find interesting is the scammy business model of getting someone interested in an article and then attempting to "force" them to register midstream in order extract personal information for commercial advantage. This is accomplished by manipulating the html code and like most forms of DRM can be defeated. In this case a fast Edit > Select All does the trick after changing the page number in the url.

The attack on privacy and freedom by the business model of the publisher seems more relevant to me than the content of the article.

Edit: It is not the regulators who have to worry about Monero, it is businesses who use deceit to collect people's personal information and then traffic in it for commercial advantage that have a lot to worry about Monero, starting of course with the publisher of the said article.

Seekingalpha is a pretty iffy source of information. Its just a proprietary financial blog aggregator. There are some credible people who post there, but otherwise anyone can create an account and start posting. This guy, for example, only has 45 followers.

kurious

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 12:43:16 PM

Quote from: kurious on March 14, 2016, 12:42:33 PM

Anyone else Struggling with getting onto Poloniex?

They are getting DDOSed:

https://twitter.com/Poloniex

Ah OK thanks. Was a little buggy earlier on, now it's totally down.

I suppose it's inevitable they'd get a little more 'attention' with so much more volume.

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: kurious on March 14, 2016, 12:42:33 PM

Anyone else Struggling with getting onto Poloniex?

They are getting DDOSed:

https://twitter.com/Poloniex

kurious

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Anyone else Struggling with getting onto Poloniex?

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Quote from: ArticMine on March 14, 2016, 11:38:09 AM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 10:52:49 AM

"Gold, Bitcoin And Economic Freedom" - Monero mentioned:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3958137-gold-bitcoin-economic-freedom

Given the topic of the article what I find interesting is the scammy business model of getting someone interested in an article and then attempting to "force" them to register midstream in order extract personal information for commercial advantage. This is accomplished by manipulating the html code and like most forms of DRM can be defeated. In this case a fast Edit > Select All does the trick after changing the page number in the url.

The attack on privacy and freedom by the business model of the publisher seems more relevant to me than the content of the article.

Edit: It is not the regulators who have to worry about Monero, it is businesses who use deceit to collect people's personal information and then traffic in it for commercial advantage that have a lot to worry about Monero, starting of course with the publisher of the said article.

Thanks for sharing dEBRUYNE! But whoa, that required login is annoying! Can't get it to permanently disappear with the element picker of Ublock Origin either.

Used http://bugmenot.com/view/seekingalpha.com for getting a username and password.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 10:52:49 AM

"Gold, Bitcoin And Economic Freedom" - Monero mentioned:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3958137-gold-bitcoin-economic-freedom

Given the topic of the article what I find interesting is the scammy business model of getting someone interested in an article and then attempting to "force" them to register midstream in order extract personal information for commercial advantage. This is accomplished by manipulating the html code and like most forms of DRM can be defeated. In this case a fast Edit > Select All does the trick after changing the page number in the url.

The attack on privacy and freedom by the business model of the publisher seems more relevant to me than the content of the article.

Edit: It is not the regulators who have to worry about Monero, it is businesses who use deceit to collect people's personal information and then traffic in it for commercial advantage that have a lot to worry about Monero, starting of course with the publisher of the said article.

dEBRUYNE

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"Gold, Bitcoin And Economic Freedom" - Monero mentioned:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3958137-gold-bitcoin-economic-freedom

TrueCryptonaire

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To be honest, if there are people postponing their joining in our party to the release I am afraid there will be severe shortages of Monero so some high sells might be bought into. I would wish Monero stabilizes to around 10 usd before GUI and then starts an enourmous rally.

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Quote from: saddambitcoin on March 14, 2016, 09:55:13 AM

Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 09:47:25 AM

Quote from: saddambitcoin on March 14, 2016, 09:39:18 AM

Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 06:38:53 AM

Does anyone know the person making it? I mean he did get 14k XMR and for that we can at least get a rough deadline. From my experience (chemistry world) almost nothing gets done until a deadline gets slapped on a project. We chemist like to procrastinate and I think that's just human nature.

He didn't get the XMR yet, the forum funding system pays out when the project is completed. I think that's motivation enough not to procrastinate. Besides, if you check the git repo you can see for yourself commits are being made regularly.

Source: https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/2476/the-official-qt-gui-project

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280 hours of work...Ilya will work 10 hours per week at the beginning, expanding into more hours per week later when some other project is finished.

Estimated 280 hours / 10 hours per week = 28 weeks (7 months)

Work began in February, so we can reasonably assume the project will be finished at the latest by September. However, accounting for the situation in bold above, it seems the project should be finished sooner.

Are you happy now?

just peachy Wink

Ok

Sorry if my attitude was unwarranted but I feel that the devs do work hard and I may have conflated your question with another person on reddit that said something like "the devs aren't working hard enough".

No worries! I see what you mean from the MAAM on reddit haha. No I love the Monero devs and would never hound them like that I was just looking for the rough deadline. I was also under the impression that he already had access to the 14k XMR. It seems as though the GUI can't arrive fast enough!

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Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 09:47:25 AM

Quote from: saddambitcoin on March 14, 2016, 09:39:18 AM

Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 06:38:53 AM

Does anyone know the person making it? I mean he did get 14k XMR and for that we can at least get a rough deadline. From my experience (chemistry world) almost nothing gets done until a deadline gets slapped on a project. We chemist like to procrastinate and I think that's just human nature.

He didn't get the XMR yet, the forum funding system pays out when the project is completed. I think that's motivation enough not to procrastinate. Besides, if you check the git repo you can see for yourself commits are being made regularly.

Source: https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/2476/the-official-qt-gui-project

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280 hours of work...Ilya will work 10 hours per week at the beginning, expanding into more hours per week later when some other project is finished.

Estimated 280 hours / 10 hours per week = 28 weeks (7 months)

Work began in February, so we can reasonably assume the project will be finished at the latest by September. However, accounting for the situation in bold above, it seems the project should be finished sooner.

Are you happy now?

just peachy Wink

Ok

Sorry if my attitude was unwarranted but I feel that the devs do work hard and I may have conflated your question with another person on reddit that said something like "the devs aren't working hard enough".

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Quote from: saddambitcoin on March 14, 2016, 09:39:18 AM

Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 06:38:53 AM

Does anyone know the person making it? I mean he did get 14k XMR and for that we can at least get a rough deadline. From my experience (chemistry world) almost nothing gets done until a deadline gets slapped on a project. We chemist like to procrastinate and I think that's just human nature.

He didn't get the XMR yet, the forum funding system pays out when the project is completed. I think that's motivation enough not to procrastinate. Besides, if you check the git repo you can see for yourself commits are being made regularly.

Source: https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/2476/the-official-qt-gui-project

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280 hours of work...Ilya will work 10 hours per week at the beginning, expanding into more hours per week later when some other project is finished.

Estimated 280 hours / 10 hours per week = 28 weeks (7 months)

Work began in February, so we can reasonably assume the project will be finished at the latest by September. However, accounting for the situation in bold above, it seems the project should be finished sooner.

Are you happy now?

just peachy Wink

saddambitcoin

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Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 06:38:53 AM

Does anyone know the person making it? I mean he did get 14k XMR and for that we can at least get a rough deadline. From my experience (chemistry world) almost nothing gets done until a deadline gets slapped on a project. We chemist like to procrastinate and I think that's just human nature.

He didn't get the XMR yet, the forum funding system pays out when the project is completed. I think that's motivation enough not to procrastinate. Besides, if you check the git repo you can see for yourself commits are being made regularly.

Source: https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/2476/the-official-qt-gui-project

Quote

280 hours of work...Ilya will work 10 hours per week at the beginning, expanding into more hours per week later when some other project is finished.

Estimated 280 hours / 10 hours per week = 28 weeks (7 months)

Work began in February, so we can reasonably assume the project will be finished at the latest by September. However, accounting for the situation in bold above, it seems the project should be finished sooner.

Are you happy now?

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 07:36:36 AM

Quote from: aminorex on March 14, 2016, 07:33:25 AM

Bad news. Hash rate dropping for a while. Expect miner dumping to depress price. We need about 1k 290s, stat.

You merely looked at the wrong time, our hash rate is kind of cyclical, see:

http://monero.net/xmr_network.html

(scroll down a bit)

Superb resource. Thank you. If ever I knew of it I had long forgotten.

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Quote from: americanpegasus on March 14, 2016, 01:40:49 AM

Quote from: ArticMine on March 14, 2016, 01:16:49 AM

As for incompleteness Bytecoin was and is very much far from complete. For starters the lack of a database. One only has to look at the changes that have taken place in Monero and the changes that are in the pipeline and planned for Monero to see this. As to which coin is more incomplete Bytecoin or Ethereum that is a very interesting question. What can happen with an Ethereum fork is in many ways similar to what has occurred with Monero. It starts as a fork but then there is a strong divergence in the codebase as the fork completes the missing parts.

Promise me the first you hear about such a fork, you will get in contact with me and tell me about it. I want to be an early adopter and enthusiast for that shit. That's the kind of talk that gets me excited.

I've been saying this should exist all along. I think I was the first to propose it back in Feb 2014 and my reddit link was quoted in this interesting article on the topic: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ether-fuel-ethereum-project-can-now-pre-ordered/. In 2015, Vitalik had this (https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2bhuj1/how_can_an_altethereum_be_forked_right_back_into/) to say about forks of ether. It only really applies to the functionality, not the premine and it only is valid if the ether scripting can really be turing complete which it's currently not.

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Quote from: aminorex on March 14, 2016, 07:33:25 AM

Bad news. Hash rate dropping for a while. Expect miner dumping to depress price. We need about 1k 290s, stat.

5 coming up!

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Quote from: aminorex on March 14, 2016, 07:33:25 AM

Bad news. Hash rate dropping for a while. Expect miner dumping to depress price. We need about 1k 290s, stat.

You merely looked at the wrong time, our hash rate is kind of cyclical, see:

http://monero.net/xmr_network.html

(scroll down a bit)

aminorex

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Bad news. Hash rate dropping for a while. Expect miner dumping to depress price. We need about 1k 290s, stat.

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ArcticMine, smooth, AmericanPegasus, tifozi...thank you for the analysis! Lots of great stuff I didn't know.

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: griffen1102 on March 14, 2016, 06:38:53 AM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on March 14, 2016, 06:23:45 AM

Quote from: bitjedi on March 13, 2016, 09:35:17 PM

Quote from: americanpegasus on March 13, 2016, 07:10:46 PM

Quote from: twistelaar on March 13, 2016, 07:07:47 PM

So the price of XMR is now 300k Satoshi, marketcap of 12 million. Stll pretty low, for a coin like XMR. x10 easily from here, but in how many time?

I don't know about 10x, but Dash's market cap is approximately 3x ours... which seems absurd that Dash would be more highly valued. Our GUI release is speculated within a few months, by which time I would expect this discrepancy to be corrected. Do not trade on my advice, but I personally am expecting $5 Monero by 3rd quarter of 2016. That seems reasonable, IMHO.

I think the GUI release is expected within 4 weeks or so as it was already funded by the community. Or am I misinformed?

There is no specific ETA. However, there is someone actively working on the GUI, see:

Does anyone know the person making it? I mean he did get 14k XMR and for that we can at least get a rough deadline. From my experience (chemistry world) almost nothing gets done until a deadline gets slapped on a project. We chemist like to procrastinate and I think that's just human nature.

From the first link you could've read that othe and fluffypony are supervising and assisting if necessary. Thus, they probably have an answer to your question. Furthermore, the "contract" specifies that he would work a certain amount of hours per week until it is done (which will double once his other project is finished). Keep in mind this is a part-time developer who probably cannot spend any more hours than the hours that were specified.

Also, the 14k wasn't merely meant for the GUI. It is highly likely that he won't need all those 270 hours to finish the GUI and if so, the remaining hours will be used to work on other features.

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