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JACS.tech
March 09, 2016, 07:54:20 AM
I Bought some more yesterday while it was relatively down to equally diversify my Alt holdings.....Eth/Maid/Monero
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March 09, 2016, 07:24:46 AM
30k xmr wall at 0.0027. Any takers?  Cool

xmr rose to fast, so it went down equally quickly. I doubt anyone will buy this wall now. It will be interesting to watch. 

at 27 it's getting eaten quite fast. I see he changed his mind and moved it to 28 for a while, now it's back to 27. Personally I'm just waiting for btc deposit and I'll grab a chunk of it Smiley

you right. wall is gone. either pulled or eaten:-)
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March 09, 2016, 07:07:17 AM
I am still waiting for it to come down to 230 again. If yes, I will take a chunk. If not, I will let it be, I bought enough already between 250 and 280.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
March 09, 2016, 06:58:32 AM
30k xmr wall at 0.0027. Any takers?  Cool

xmr rose to fast, so it went down equally quickly. I doubt anyone will buy this wall now. It will be interesting to watch. 

That's not how logic works.   It's a short position.  I estimate 3 days to squeeze.
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March 09, 2016, 06:58:10 AM
30k xmr wall at 0.0027. Any takers?  Cool

xmr rose to fast, so it went down equally quickly. I doubt anyone will buy this wall now. It will be interesting to watch. 

at 27 it's getting eaten quite fast. I see he changed his mind and moved it to 28 for a while, now it's back to 27. Personally I'm just waiting for btc deposit and I'll grab a chunk of it Smiley
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March 09, 2016, 06:41:59 AM
30k xmr wall at 0.0027. Any takers?  Cool

xmr rose to fast, so it went down equally quickly. I doubt anyone will buy this wall now. It will be interesting to watch. 
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March 09, 2016, 06:26:26 AM
30k xmr wall at 0.0027. Any takers?  Cool
legendary
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March 09, 2016, 05:55:20 AM
It does make sense to have an infinite horizon, if you anticipate benefit from the pillar traits of monero on an ongoing basis, i.e. if you value your personal freedom very highly. It doesn't make much sense to keep operating capital in XMR right now, because of the volatility, but as a fraction of savings, I think the rational share (Kelly) is no less than 10%, if your goal is pure optimization of expected savings value - rational self-interest. (But keep in mind that my estimation of distribution of outcomes may be very different from yours.)

I am certainly not the largest XMR hoarder, so my intentions are not a dominating factor for other investors.  But, for them, a disclosure: I do not have an infinite horizon, simply because my freedom, my life even, is less important to me than other goals - over 12 ounces Au per XMR, certain of those goals may become feasible, and I will sell ruthlessly, if so.  Until then, not so much.

In fact, if it seems useful, I might buy a lot more.  (And that 12 oz number would fall proportionately.) But never to manipulate price in a way that increases volatility.  (I might "manipulate" with a view to decrease volatility however -- that is called market making, and is a respectable profession.)

And never increasing to the point where it seems likely to harm the value of XMR due to excessive concentration.  Although, given the divisibility of crypto, I am convinced that stable reserve use can never actually harm the economy due to money supply issues, yet the optics could be damaging during early phases.  Unfairly so, however, as XMR distribution seems quite good, considering the stage of development.
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March 09, 2016, 05:33:35 AM
Looks as if the price could go down below 230 sat before the next leg up. Good buying prices coming ...

Disclaimer: to evaluate the quality of my trading skills, look at my footer.  Tongue
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March 09, 2016, 04:56:37 AM
Guys I recently bought some monero for the first time.
Is it smart to keep these coins for the long term?
And if so how long term should I think, because this coin has been here for a long time now.
And I think this coin is still kinda underpriced, But is it smart to keep in on the exchange?
Or is monero easy to transfer to your wallet and keep it safely there?

Pretty much rest of your life and keep adding on regular basis (like you probably are doing in fiat also).
Really there is no reason not to hold your wealth in XMR other than very low market cap which is the reason XMR is pretty volatile. As marketcap gows, the volatility should stabilize since it also means there are more people willing to trade with XMR and if there is someone willing to dump larger amounts, there will be several takers to the bag.

Personally I am buying XMR without intention to sell despite I might sell if people insist me to do so.
2 years is not long term IMO. Even 10 years is not a long term... And many things will happen in the coming 2 years not to mention 10(+) years.
I do not see any reason to dump XMR other than buying something else and what else I would buy? When I am able to do so, I think XMR is used more widely and I do not even need to pee on the pockets of the other members of XMR community and I can simply unload some of coins just using it directly to buy gold bullion or other assets (liabilities I do not need).

Ok, I will then, I don't Have a lot of monero at the moment, but I will increase my monero wealth as you say Cheesy
And you are right there are a lot of things that can happen in 2-10+ Years!


Guys I recently bought some monero for the first time.
Is it smart to keep these coins for the long term?
And if so how long term should I think, because this coin has been here for a long time now.
And I think this coin is still kinda underpriced, But is it smart to keep in on the exchange?
Or is monero easy to transfer to your wallet and keep it safely there?

Instructions for the wallet are here:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/blob/master/knowledge-base/user-guides/create_wallet.md

Alternatively, you can create a cold paper wallet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/48cgmd/an_extensive_guide_for_securely_generating_an/

Holy crap those instructions on github would scare away anyone with an interest in Monero. I use LightWallet2 on Windows, works well enough but better wallets with GUIs should be a priority. At least there is MyMonero.com for getting started.


Those instructions look great. Being paranoid is a good thing in crypto.

And I will take a look at the Wallets, and decide where I will store my coins!
A paper wallet is pretty safe and it is kinda cool to show other people who aren't in to cryptocurrency.
So you can show them a way to store there coins.
legendary
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March 09, 2016, 03:55:23 AM
I know you've said many times now that the GUI won't cause wider adoption outside of our crypto bubble, but do you have any suggestion for how that adoption might be achieved?

EDIT: or rather, what in your mind is the biggest obstacle that needs to be overcome for adoption to start happening?

Off the top of my head:

A general use wallet could exist in the form of a messaging app built on top of XMR, with the ability to send money to friends' accounts, just like WhatsApp or Venmo. The intimidating 94-character addresses should never be visible to the user but associated with every user's account. Payments could be sent to other user accounts or even to email addresses of non-users (side note: it would be great if MyMonero would allow me to send a payment to any email address ... not talking about open alias).

A great service I'd like to see would be a payment gateway that assumes the risk of instant/0-conf transactions for a fee (say 1%), for point-of-sale purchases.

I think a major obstacle is the address. Addresses need to be abstracted away from the end user. Also, the great thing about cash is that nothing is simpler than handing your friend a ten dollar bill. The first device/app/tool that comes close to that level of simplicity with digital money will win big.

Shapeshift.io is doing exactly what you want on the fly if you use it correctly  Grin
How painful is their cut?  Do they take it as a percentage,  or pad the exchange rate, or both?

Take a look at their Terms

Nothing there to indicate fees or rates.  Just that it's not available in New York or North Korea Cheesy
legendary
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March 09, 2016, 03:41:03 AM
I know you've said many times now that the GUI won't cause wider adoption outside of our crypto bubble, but do you have any suggestion for how that adoption might be achieved?

EDIT: or rather, what in your mind is the biggest obstacle that needs to be overcome for adoption to start happening?

Off the top of my head:

A general use wallet could exist in the form of a messaging app built on top of XMR, with the ability to send money to friends' accounts, just like WhatsApp or Venmo. The intimidating 94-character addresses should never be visible to the user but associated with every user's account. Payments could be sent to other user accounts or even to email addresses of non-users (side note: it would be great if MyMonero would allow me to send a payment to any email address ... not talking about open alias).

A great service I'd like to see would be a payment gateway that assumes the risk of instant/0-conf transactions for a fee (say 1%), for point-of-sale purchases.

I think a major obstacle is the address. Addresses need to be abstracted away from the end user. Also, the great thing about cash is that nothing is simpler than handing your friend a ten dollar bill. The first device/app/tool that comes close to that level of simplicity with digital money will win big.

Shapeshift.io is doing exactly what you want on the fly if you use it correctly  Grin
How painful is their cut?  Do they take it as a percentage,  or pad the exchange rate, or both?

Take a look at their Terms
legendary
Activity: 2016
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March 09, 2016, 03:31:33 AM
I know you've said many times now that the GUI won't cause wider adoption outside of our crypto bubble, but do you have any suggestion for how that adoption might be achieved?

EDIT: or rather, what in your mind is the biggest obstacle that needs to be overcome for adoption to start happening?

Off the top of my head:

A general use wallet could exist in the form of a messaging app built on top of XMR, with the ability to send money to friends' accounts, just like WhatsApp or Venmo. The intimidating 94-character addresses should never be visible to the user but associated with every user's account. Payments could be sent to other user accounts or even to email addresses of non-users (side note: it would be great if MyMonero would allow me to send a payment to any email address ... not talking about open alias).

A great service I'd like to see would be a payment gateway that assumes the risk of instant/0-conf transactions for a fee (say 1%), for point-of-sale purchases.

I think a major obstacle is the address. Addresses need to be abstracted away from the end user. Also, the great thing about cash is that nothing is simpler than handing your friend a ten dollar bill. The first device/app/tool that comes close to that level of simplicity with digital money will win big.

Shapeshift.io is doing exactly what you want on the fly if you use it correctly  Grin
How painful is their cut?  Do they take it as a percentage,  or pad the exchange rate, or both?
legendary
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March 09, 2016, 03:25:58 AM
I know you've said many times now that the GUI won't cause wider adoption outside of our crypto bubble, but do you have any suggestion for how that adoption might be achieved?

EDIT: or rather, what in your mind is the biggest obstacle that needs to be overcome for adoption to start happening?

Off the top of my head:

A general use wallet could exist in the form of a messaging app built on top of XMR, with the ability to send money to friends' accounts, just like WhatsApp or Venmo. The intimidating 94-character addresses should never be visible to the user but associated with every user's account. Payments could be sent to other user accounts or even to email addresses of non-users (side note: it would be great if MyMonero would allow me to send a payment to any email address ... not talking about open alias).

A great service I'd like to see would be a payment gateway that assumes the risk of instant/0-conf transactions for a fee (say 1%), for point-of-sale purchases.

I think a major obstacle is the address. Addresses need to be abstracted away from the end user. Also, the great thing about cash is that nothing is simpler than handing your friend a ten dollar bill. The first device/app/tool that comes close to that level of simplicity with digital money will win big.

Shapeshift.io is doing exactly what you want on the fly if you use it correctly  Grin
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March 09, 2016, 01:05:30 AM
Latest Bloomberg article on bitcoin :

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-08/maybe-bitcoin-will-grow-up-to-be-a-currency

Mainstream media is still quite fixated on bitcoin as the only viable cryptocurrency out there.
Altcoins are very much considered as niche-within-a-niche as to remain virtually invisible to the masses.


Also somewhat related, an excellent primer and summary on the recent issues surrounding the development and future evolution of bitcoin. Written by Mike Hearn :

https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7#.35m4o463j
legendary
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March 09, 2016, 12:30:48 AM
Guys I recently bought some monero for the first time.
Is it smart to keep these coins for the long term?
And if so how long term should I think, because this coin has been here for a long time now.
And I think this coin is still kinda underpriced, But is it smart to keep in on the exchange?
Or is monero easy to transfer to your wallet and keep it safely there?

Instructions for the wallet are here:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/blob/master/knowledge-base/user-guides/create_wallet.md

Alternatively, you can create a cold paper wallet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/48cgmd/an_extensive_guide_for_securely_generating_an/

Holy crap those instructions on github would scare away anyone with an interest in Monero. I use LightWallet2 on Windows, works well enough but better wallets with GUIs should be a priority. At least there is MyMonero.com for getting started.


Those instructions look great. Being paranoid is a good thing in crypto.

Paranoia is why many are looking for anon to begin with.  Just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you...
sr. member
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March 08, 2016, 11:53:44 PM
Guys I recently bought some monero for the first time.
Is it smart to keep these coins for the long term?
And if so how long term should I think, because this coin has been here for a long time now.
And I think this coin is still kinda underpriced, But is it smart to keep in on the exchange?
Or is monero easy to transfer to your wallet and keep it safely there?

Instructions for the wallet are here:

https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/blob/master/knowledge-base/user-guides/create_wallet.md

Alternatively, you can create a cold paper wallet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/48cgmd/an_extensive_guide_for_securely_generating_an/

Holy crap those instructions on github would scare away anyone with an interest in Monero. I use LightWallet2 on Windows, works well enough but better wallets with GUIs should be a priority. At least there is MyMonero.com for getting started.


Those instructions look great. Being paranoid is a good thing in crypto.
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
March 08, 2016, 11:38:50 PM
Guys I recently bought some monero for the first time.
Is it smart to keep these coins for the long term?
And if so how long term should I think, because this coin has been here for a long time now.
And I think this coin is still kinda underpriced, But is it smart to keep in on the exchange?
Or is monero easy to transfer to your wallet and keep it safely there?

Pretty much rest of your life and keep adding on regular basis (like you probably are doing in fiat also).
Really there is no reason not to hold your wealth in XMR other than very low market cap which is the reason XMR is pretty volatile. As marketcap gows, the volatility should stabilize since it also means there are more people willing to trade with XMR and if there is someone willing to dump larger amounts, there will be several takers to the bag.

Personally I am buying XMR without intention to sell despite I might sell if people insist me to do so.
2 years is not long term IMO. Even 10 years is not a long term... And many things will happen in the coming 2 years not to mention 10(+) years.
I do not see any reason to dump XMR other than buying something else and what else I would buy? When I am able to do so, I think XMR is used more widely and I do not even need to pee on the pockets of the other members of XMR community and I can simply unload some of coins just using it directly to buy gold bullion or other assets (liabilities I do not need).

I actually agree with you here... as most people who frequent this thread hope, I hope that XMR will appreciate up to $100+/XMR by 2020; and since there is nothing that I really need to spend moneros on (besides the occasional funding of projects) just accumulate as much as I can at any given price.  Then when that time comes where it hits a triple digit figure, I'm definitely planning on purchasing a couple ounces of gold and silver to diversify my portfolio of investments.  Until that time comes, I'm happily accumulating as much cheap coins as I can whether thats $10 a week or maybe even less.
legendary
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March 08, 2016, 10:59:51 PM
Guys I recently bought some monero for the first time.
Is it smart to keep these coins for the long term?
And if so how long term should I think, because this coin has been here for a long time now.
And I think this coin is still kinda underpriced, But is it smart to keep in on the exchange?
Or is monero easy to transfer to your wallet and keep it safely there?

Pretty much rest of your life and keep adding on regular basis (like you probably are doing in fiat also).
Really there is no reason not to hold your wealth in XMR other than very low market cap which is the reason XMR is pretty volatile. As marketcap gows, the volatility should stabilize since it also means there are more people willing to trade with XMR and if there is someone willing to dump larger amounts, there will be several takers to the bag.

Personally I am buying XMR without intention to sell despite I might sell if people insist me to do so.
2 years is not long term IMO. Even 10 years is not a long term... And many things will happen in the coming 2 years not to mention 10(+) years.
I do not see any reason to dump XMR other than buying something else and what else I would buy? When I am able to do so, I think XMR is used more widely and I do not even need to pee on the pockets of the other members of XMR community and I can simply unload some of coins just using it directly to buy gold bullion or other assets (liabilities I do not need).
legendary
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March 08, 2016, 08:38:14 PM
Sold because no GUI  Sad

China shift in yet?

Why did you buy?

I lost all of mine in a boating accident Cry

Loose lips lose ships  Tongue
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