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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 156. (Read 3314350 times)

legendary
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June 05, 2019, 02:18:18 AM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?

Looks like it might drop to the bottom ten! Smiley

Yup with this https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/654  Monero will, most likely only the next year, become 25% faster and have 20% cheaper transactions and blockchain size growth. I guess it will also help to move 20-25% more to bottom ten

And/or possibly larger ring size for improved fungibility (with the existing transaction size, or a smaller reduction). How to make use of the improvement in deployment hasn't been decided.

What about the idea of integrating Microsoft's (lol) ZK techniques?  That is a thing too, yes?

Longer term potentially. This new CLSAG is about ready to deploy now, pending code and cryptography audits.
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
June 04, 2019, 10:43:47 PM
Yes - there's a good chance Monero will eventually move to zk snarks, starks, or other.
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
June 04, 2019, 10:13:22 PM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?

Looks like it might drop to the bottom ten! Smiley

Yup with this https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/654  Monero will, most likely only the next year, become 25% faster and have 20% cheaper transactions and blockchain size growth. I guess it will also help to move 20-25% more to bottom ten

And/or possibly larger ring size for improved fungibility (with the existing transaction size, or a smaller reduction). How to make use of the improvement in deployment hasn't been decided.

What about the idea of integrating Microsoft's (lol) ZK techniques?  That is a thing too, yes?
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
June 04, 2019, 07:43:08 PM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?

Looks like it might drop to the bottom ten! Smiley

Yup with this https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/654  Monero will, most likely only the next year, become 25% faster and have 20% cheaper transactions and blockchain size growth. I guess it will also help to move 20-25% more to bottom ten

And/or possibly larger ring size for improved fungibility (with the existing transaction size, or a smaller reduction). How to make use of the improvement in deployment hasn't been decided.
legendary
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Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
June 04, 2019, 07:39:08 PM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?

Looks like it might drop to the bottom ten! Smiley

Yup with this https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/654  Monero will, most likely only the next year, become 25% faster and have 20% cheaper transactions and blockchain size growth. I guess it will also help to move 20-25% more to bottom ten

Is it True?
legendary
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Merit: 1288
June 04, 2019, 11:59:42 AM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?

Looks like it might drop to the bottom ten! Smiley

Yup with this https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/654  Monero will, most likely only the next year, become 25% faster and have 20% cheaper transactions and blockchain size growth. I guess it will also help to move 20-25% more to bottom ten
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
June 03, 2019, 06:00:39 PM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?

Looks like it might drop to the bottom ten! Smiley
full member
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June 03, 2019, 05:58:45 PM

When will the monero come back to the top 10?
hero member
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Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
June 03, 2019, 01:09:27 PM
when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )  Cheesy  lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

...>_>


~Monero was literally forked from bytecoin you n00b! ..where is the logic behind this??hmm  Cool  lmfaooo #geofencing

It was a code fork, not a coin created by a hard fork.

yessir XMR was forked from BCN so polo goes and "geofences" BCN yet leafs XMR for us Stateside? hmm  Roll Eyes  you see what i'm sayin' bruh?
sr. member
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June 03, 2019, 07:40:11 AM
when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )  Cheesy  lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

...>_>

troll

Legend

You are that lazy you can't even give us a 'Weeeeeee' now?  WTF?
legendary
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June 03, 2019, 05:41:09 AM
when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )  Cheesy  lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

...>_>


~Monero was literally forked from bytecoin you n00b! ..where is the logic behind this??hmm  Cool  lmfaooo #geofencing

It was a code fork, not a coin created by a hard fork.
hero member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 640
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
June 02, 2019, 04:02:23 PM
when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )  Cheesy  lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

...>_>


~Monero was literally forked from bytecoin you n00b! ..where is the logic behind this??hmm  Cool  lmfaooo #geofencing
hero member
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June 02, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
Monero is bullush for 2 reasons, not good ones but anyway.. As the leading privacy coin it will be used for dark purchasing whether is via the dark web or P2P monero will be there as one of the payment choices. Also, people who wish to hide their wealth will store it in monero rather than BTC
Nothing wrong with those reasons.
The dark web has its good side.  I forget who said "you can't get knifed buying drugs on the web" or something to that effect.  And dark web drug bazaar seller rating systems means good drugs.  You don't want to end up like some meth head in Gary, Indiana who lost his teeth to caustic meth cooked in a trailer park.  Arguably, when a dark bazaar like Silk Road gets taken down, it means more deaths due to drug impurities and violence.
And "hiding your wealth" isn't illegal per se.  I don't want Fat Vinny and his crew knowing where I keep my benjamins or my Monori.
sr. member
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June 02, 2019, 05:02:23 AM
Monero is bullush for 2 reasons, not good ones but anyway.. As the leading privacy coin it will be used for dark purchasing whether is via the dark web or P2P monero will be there as one of the payment choices. Also, people who wish to hide their wealth will store it in monero rather than BTC
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
June 02, 2019, 04:00:59 AM
when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )  Cheesy  lol

Monero is one of the coins that is definitely not a security. As for it's privacy features:

People often like to purport that Monero will inevitably get banned. However, the new FinCEN guidance is basically inconsistent with that notion. From the CoinCenter article:

Quote
Section 4.5.3 states that exchanges are not per se banned from using privacy-preserving cryptocurrencies but will need to comply with the same BSA regulations they comply with for typical cryptocurrencies. We believe that this is possible. Exchanges need to know their customers but they do not have a black letter law requirement to know the customers of their customers. In other words, a bank needs to know who you are but they are not obligated to know the name and address of people that you pay using cash you withdraw from your account.

https://coincenter.org/entry/fincen-s-new-cryptocurrency-guidance-matches-coin-center-recommendations

Arguably, this is long-term bullish for Monero.
hero member
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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
June 01, 2019, 08:33:43 PM
when does poloniex geofence monero? ( xmr )  Cheesy  lol
hero member
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June 01, 2019, 06:41:36 PM
....retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

What are you counting as the most recent ATH? $450? So you're expecting the next ATH of ~$4500 by 2020? That would be nice, but seems unlikely.
But what do I know? I predicted $175 for New Years Day.

Well no I'm speculating "in general" about "crypto in general" over the mid-to-longterm future.

No idea as of yet about SPECIFIC coins (even tho this IS the monero forum and I still *DO* believe in HoneyPony!)

But overall what I mean about this is just the overall general trend since Satoshi first launched the original BTC blockchain.

no value to a penny (10x)
penny to a dime (10x)
dime to a dollar (10x)
dollar to $10 (10x)
$10 to $100 (10x)
$100 to $1000 (10x) <--- my first rodeo LOL
$1000 to $20,000 <--- my second rodeo but the one I fucked up BOTH of 'em after... doh!
And, BTW, which IMHO was a double-overshoot: should've peaked about HALF of last cycle!
Too much hype/manipulation more than usual?? Maybe 'cuz of fucking Tether???

So... "you-are-here" now...?

And, Future?

SOMETHING... some coin... maybe BTC? Maybe NOT?  Will "retake" $10,000??

Then...

$10,000 to $100,000 <--- my THIRD rodeo, which I hope *this time*...?  I won't fuck it all up!!!!

And maybe finally...?

$100,000 to the mythical $1 Million Per Coin, global adoption and use by everyone, transactions priced in 0.00000001 satoshi-as-penny usage.

That final one IF and WHEN it can ever happen, would be my FOURTH rodeo here so hopefully by then fully experienced and knowledgable enough to really NOT FUCK IT UP by the time the Fat Lady really finally SINGS.

Again as for IF this will be "BTC" or not, or XMR, or BCH (don't shoot me!) or something ELSE totally unexpected out of left field?  Who Da Fuck KNOWS???
pa
hero member
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June 01, 2019, 01:19:11 PM
....retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

What are you counting as the most recent ATH? $450? So you're expecting the next ATH of ~$4500 by 2020? That would be nice, but seems unlikely.
But what do I know? I predicted $175 for New Years Day.
legendary
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May 31, 2019, 01:40:23 PM
But, I dunno. IS it really "time" yet now?  Or kinda sorta maybe feels like there's gonna be one more leg-down crashola just to shake the monkeys one last time, before we REALLY start to get going towards next retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

Leg down is always possible. But better name for it would be a bear trap. And would bounce back to levers where we are right now really fast. Bear trap is an option, but I would not bet on in.
legendary
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May 31, 2019, 09:47:28 AM
Hey fellas... how'z it hangin'?  Grin

I been "away" awhile, again.  Still "OUT" mostly.  Long ago even before the 'crypto winter' was really "real" to all of us I'd speculated that the crashing would be overwith sometime around late springtime towards early summer 2019 (i.e. now).

Soooooooooo... gotta start thinkin' about coming back, I guess.

But, I dunno. IS it really "time" yet now?  Or kinda sorta maybe feels like there's gonna be one more leg-down crashola just to shake the monkeys one last time, before we REALLY start to get going towards next retaking ATH and next ten-bagger from there (going into Halvening time...)

Whaddaya dudes all think?  Maybe I oughta "get back in" but with only like 'half' yet... and wait & see on the other half?

Something like that?  Or still just thinkin' out loud here awhile yet again.

LOL  Grin

Welcome back, KeyJockey.

Well the crypto winter ended (effectively) in December with BTC dropping to $3122.

Since then BTC has seen a decent recovery and accumulation phase as I am sure you can see.   A real 'alt season' has not really kicked off yet, with BTC dominance mostly increasing since the start of the year (it was over 60% not too long back). However, green shoots are appearing - so your timing is about right.

Certainly Monero at over $90 is better than sub $40 as XMR was in December, but while keeping up respectably well in USD terms, against BTC it hasn't really performed yet - probably due to the stage of the cycle IMHO.

With BTC slipping back into a mid-50s percentile dominance-wise, it looks like alts are waking up - and XMR is sitting mid-table in performance terms, having lost less than most during the crypto winter.  Institutional fund money when and if it comes may buy a top-20 basket of CC to help out, but whatever happens it looks fairly obvious big-caps are largely doing better than minor alts.

For me, it's not a time to sell XMR and it is still sitting at no. 12, or 13 in market cap, in spite of stable coins and platforms taking spots all over the top 20.   

'Real private money' - Monero's use case (and dominance for privacy) does not really need arguing any more.

I'd say: Sit tight, keep a balance in BTC and XMR - and tread very carefully if you feel like going elsewhere in the wonderful world of crypto, many alts are on life-support at best.
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