Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1805. (Read 3313576 times)

So apparently if I go to the gym every day and take testo factor x, my friend Dr Calvin here seems to think I'll be a millionaire.

Best speculation ever.

I put these side by side BC adorable.

Anyways .. I speculate that the bimonthly or monthly buying pattern will continue until the orders are filled. Personally I'm not raising my buy order.

Its inherent in how cryptonote signatures work (earlier I quoted from the original cryptonote white paper).

Most of these features are not implemented very well if at all in terms of tooling but the cryptography/protocol makes them possible, and I'm sure support will come in time.

Both correct of course.

Not exactly. It can be x% mined in y years for the coming z years, right? If after 4 years it is 80% mined, and then there is tail inflation of 0.3% per year (making numbers up here), then you could say that 70% of the coins for the next 100 years will be mined in the first 4 years...or something.

The tail emission in Monero makes it mathematically impossible for Monero to be x% mined in y years.. 

I got no problem with people. People are cool. If you are going to throw me under the bus that is fine too. However how come you don't even slap some of the rags on their wrists calling the distribution as "80 % premine in 4 years". Who do I need to fuck to get that kind of treatment? Another troll posts on this thread repeatedly with his gibberish (and we all know who that is) but you don't even pull them on the side to warm them. It's fucking exhausting watching the same shit, and I needed to vent.

^ aha this is the place to do speculations, so let's begin.

I have very little confidence in bitcoin price right now, btc/usd that is

I'm finding reassurance that Monero has been holding mostly steady against USD, even while btc/xmr values move.

Everything looks rosy but I think there's a rough patch coming in the short term (1-2 months) ... next several months? pure speculation?

Longer term I'd expect xmr would be at least $5 USD before the end of the US federal elections in 2016. (Could be very possible $50 shortly thereafter)

I  *also* did not know that.

Is this a feature inherent in all crypto note implementations? Or is this unique to Monero?

Our friend slapper made an insightful observation once. He pointed out that had Bitcoin been released with a non-transparent ledger, no one would ever create a transparent one. The very idea would be laughed at.

It makes far more sense to keep information private by default and then disclose it when needed than to put everything out there in public and try to somehow reclaim some sort of privacy after the fact, if that is even possible.

Whoa, I did *not* know this.  I thought it was a one-time shot.  Very cool.  That pretty much wraps up necessary transparency.  I can't think of any other optional transparency that would be needed.

The view key is well known, but it can be a blunt instrument, since it reveals all payments for the entire lifetime of an account (including past and future). It is less known that you can disclose individual payments on a case by case basis, as needed:

I never said that.  I said it's hurting the image of the coin....big difference.

One of my favorite things about Monero is how it can exist as both opaque and transparent.  If I wish for an account to be transparent, I can simply expose my viewkey.

We have the best of both worlds.

Thanks. I had heard rumors of BBR distribution shenanigans early on and simply dismissed it as an option. Have not followed up since.

Tail end dynamics with regard to speculation sentiment remains to be seen; but I think it's become obvious what the front end effects of distribution have become. Those projects that have had a provably fair launch seem to have done much better than the pre-mines. It is difficult to determine the magnitude of this effect as transaction volume and market cap are quite easily manipulated when a core few control the vast majority of the currency.

Currently, this is one of the few protects I've kept up with. It's interesting how many of the problems plaguing bitcoin currently (block size, how to pay miners when the reward halves, fungibility concerns, privacy) have some potential solutions here.

Whether Monero exists as a test bed for features that will be assimilated into bitcoin, or Monero will simply live as a parallel, opaque option to the transparent bitcoin chain, or perhaps just take over and leave bitcoin in the dust. All this will play out.

Well said, Personally, I'm betting on all possible outcomes, "hedging" my bets as it were...

But- truth be told- I'm hedging certain outcomes heavier than others.

Best of luck everyone.

 
 
You're right.  You seem to have a history of supporting Monero while keeping a realistic outlook.  Excuse the shill-cusations. 
 
The price is a side-effect of the ultimate purpose, so don't focus on it. 
 

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Think about it like this.  You come to me, AmericanPegaHitch and say, "I want women to fall at my feet," and I say, "Ok, we can do that, but it's going to take some work.  You're gonna need to hit the gym pretty much every day and get a 10/10 bod + abs, we're gonna need to get you an impeccable wardrobe and haircut, and you are gonna need to develop the confidence of an NFL superstar.  It's gonna be a lot of work, but if you do it all you'll become a god among men." 
 
"Yeah, but when are the women gonna fall for me?" 
 
"That is a side effect of all the work you're going to be putting in.  Do you know what we call the guys who just want to skip right to the women-wanting-them stage without putting in the work?" 
 
"No, what?" 
 
"We call them Bytecoiners."

I'd wait before drawing conclusions (or the sun) about the marketcap, remember marketcap says very little, especially when a coin is traded for such a short time on only 1 exchange.

Personally I think there will be a dump soon after the hype which could be a good buying opportunity, I really haven't followed Ethereum because I think they're a bit overhyped and have not much to show yet in relation to the amount of BTC they received from the presale.

OT: at the 78.6% retrace from the top to 240k.

And another problem with this community: super defensive people right from the get go!

I own Bitcoin and Monero. I do not own Ether.

They may be business ventures, but it's disappointing to me that after all this time positioning Monero as the anonymous currency to go for, we're still worth several million in total.
The trouble is that the free market does not value what we have to offer. This is my concern.

OBAViJEST, and anyone else, this is not the place to discuss allegations of spamming. Take it elsewhere.

If your argument is that alleged so-called spamming is hurting the value of the coin, okay make the argument, but it sure doesn't seem to be reflected in the recent price action

Also, everyone, when replying to large images please remove them or shrink them. Let's keep this thread readable.

 
  
So TFW you awful trolls see XMR at 2000 USD each?  
  
Because that's what I'm getting out of this nonsense of yours.

I didn't see it as shilling. It is clearly a highly visible market event. Whether that visibility translates into ongoing importance remains to be seen.