[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1867.

TrueCryptonaire

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on June 13, 2015, 12:35:12 PM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on June 13, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: hodlmybtc on June 13, 2015, 11:49:34 AM

Good shit you guys seem to be smoking... price is too high at 2x the all time low?

Long squeeze?

This isn't all-inmarginlongdoubledownFINEX

Good luck shorting.

I wish Polo would announce the short/long ratios so people could see what is the situation.
The fact is, there have been a lot of bitcoins borrowed from me at pretty hefty rate and Moneros very few borrowed even with relatively moderate rates...

I am not shorting nor longing but lending since it is the only way the income is guaranteed.
However I am a little bit worried for the people who are margin longing Moneros at Poloniex.
I think I will get my bitcoins eventually paid back - anyway the 30 day maturity is running to the end soon so I will get the money back but I wonder if the borrower make any money if he or she waits until everybody start dumping and the bears will wake up.

Anyone can follow bull-bear ratios indirectly by following the rates one can borrow any currency.

This is partly flawed, because BTC could also be borrowed to go long on coins different than XMR.

If you look at the volumes they are trading with other coins the total volume of trading with other coins that can be margin traded is hardly achieving the volume of XMR.
I am not saying here BTC is not used to margin trade other coins but it is traded much less to other coins than XMR.

Judging the huge premium on lending btc over lending xmr and having seen the difference in trading volumes in all the coins I can say it is not only XMR that is longed.

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on June 13, 2015, 12:15:35 PM

Quote from: hodlmybtc on June 13, 2015, 11:49:34 AM

Good shit you guys seem to be smoking... price is too high at 2x the all time low?

Long squeeze?

This isn't all-inmarginlongdoubledownFINEX

Good luck shorting.

I wish Polo would announce the short/long ratios so people could see what is the situation.
The fact is, there have been a lot of bitcoins borrowed from me at pretty hefty rate and Moneros very few borrowed even with relatively moderate rates...

I am not shorting nor longing but lending since it is the only way the income is guaranteed.
However I am a little bit worried for the people who are margin longing Moneros at Poloniex.
I think I will get my bitcoins eventually paid back - anyway the 30 day maturity is running to the end soon so I will get the money back but I wonder if the borrower make any money if he or she waits until everybody start dumping and the bears will wake up.

Anyone can follow bull-bear ratios indirectly by following the rates one can borrow any currency.

This is partly flawed, because BTC could also be borrowed to go long on coins different than XMR.

sdmathis

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Quote from: ArticMine on June 13, 2015, 12:04:13 PM

Quote from: sdmathis on June 13, 2015, 11:56:32 AM

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It's just our objective opinion. It's not a personal insult to you or the Monero community. There are Bulls and there are Bears. That's fine. What makes no sense, however, are the perms-Bulls. There seem to be a lot of those around here.

By perms-Bulls do you mean those who were buying at 0.00110 from those who were selling at 0.00110 hoping to buy back at 0.0080? It is true that in the short term the perms-Bulls were wrong in that the bottom was 0.00091. It really all depends on the trader's time frame.

A permanent-Bull is someone who is always bullish on the market regardless of the underlying condition. It has nothing to do with what someone's entry or exit price was, though I suppose price could cause the mentality.

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Quote from: hodlmybtc on June 13, 2015, 11:49:34 AM

Good shit you guys seem to be smoking... price is too high at 2x the all time low?

Long squeeze?

This isn't all-inmarginlongdoubledownFINEX

Good luck shorting.

I wish Polo would announce the short/long ratios so people could see what is the situation.
The fact is, there have been a lot of bitcoins borrowed from me at pretty hefty rate and Moneros very few borrowed even with relatively moderate rates...

I am not shorting nor longing but lending since it is the only way the income is guaranteed.
However I am a little bit worried for the people who are margin longing Moneros at Poloniex.
I think I will get my bitcoins eventually paid back - anyway the 30 day maturity is running to the end soon so I will get the money back but I wonder if the borrower make any money if he or she waits until everybody start dumping and the bears will wake up.

Anyone can follow bull-bear ratios indirectly by following the rates one can borrow any currency.

ArticMine

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Quote from: sdmathis on June 13, 2015, 11:56:32 AM

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It's just our objective opinion. It's not a personal insult to you or the Monero community. There are Bulls and there are Bears. That's fine. What makes no sense, however, are the perms-Bulls. There seem to be a lot of those around here.

By perms-Bulls do you mean those who were buying at 0.00110 from those who were selling at 0.00110 hoping to buy back at 0.0080? It is true that in the short term the perms-Bulls were wrong in that the bottom was 0.00091. It really all depends on the trader's time frame.

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Quote from: hodlmybtc on June 13, 2015, 11:49:34 AM

Good shit you guys seem to be smoking... price is too high at 2x the all time low?

Long squeeze?

This isn't all-inmarginlongdoubledownFINEX

Good luck shorting.

It's just our objective opinion. It's not a personal insult to you or the Monero community. There are Bulls and there are Bears. That's fine. What makes no sense, however, are the perms-Bulls. There seem to be a lot of those around here.

hodlmybtc

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Good shit you guys seem to be smoking... price is too high at 2x the all time low?

Long squeeze?

This isn't all-inmarginlongdoubledownFINEX

Good luck shorting.

TrueCryptonaire

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I am looking forward to long squeeze.
Personally I have some btc lent ages ago in Polo.. I am afraid there will be long squeeze as the dumpers will enter to the markets.
I hope for the sake of bagholders that 0.0016 will hold (it is not sure though in case if the long positions are not liquadated before.

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i think actual situation of moneros price its like this

i think better wait to buy little more to 0.0016 maybe

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Quote from: vgo on June 13, 2015, 02:07:36 AM

All the - Master Of Trading-, - The Big Guy-, - The Strong Hand-, - I´m Moby-Dick- of this thread, they are becoming XMR in: - Monero: The coin of Pump and Dump -.... NO thanks!!!

XMR outside Polotrap, now!!!

+Eddu bla, bla, bla...

+Instamine, bla, bla, bla...

WTF??

Monero!!!

( Sorry for my bad english, again.)

I may have read you wrong. But I have no problem telling my opinion, obviously. I don't know if you are calling me the Strong hand, big guy etc. But you may have misunderstood me as well. I am a small(ish) stake holder, and trade a very small amount as a way to hopefully increase my stake. Doesn't always work. But I am definitely not a "big guy". There are others here who may be.

Your trading ranges may be very good and well executed, and for that congrats.

I am very interested in the relationship between fundamental news (for example bitcoin sidechain and blocksize moves in relation to Monero's possible future), and I think speculation is as much about that as trading ranges, and to some extent maybe even more in thinly traded commodities like XMR.

But I apologize for being rude.

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Now I feel like having some toast!

BlindMayorBitcorn

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Quote from: generalizethis on June 13, 2015, 02:27:59 AM

Quote from: vgo on June 13, 2015, 02:07:36 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on June 13, 2015, 12:17:30 AM

Quote from: futureofbitcoin on June 12, 2015, 11:49:47 PM

better than losing money. Seriously, vgo isn't even saying anything negative about monero. What's wrong with you people?

Most of his interaction in this thread has been trollish imo... And I am not one to be overly quick to call someone a troll (and I am not calling him one) nor do I think speaking negatively about monero is trolling, but for some weeks most of his posts have seemed to be meant to taunt.

All the - Master Of Trading-, - The Big Guy-, - The Strong Hand-, - I´m Moby-Dick- of this thread, they are becoming XMR in: - Monero: The coin of Pump and Dump -.... NO thanks!!!

XMR outside Polotrap, now!!! What does this even mean?

+Eddu(field?) bla, bla, bla... This isn't bad English, this is either lazy or trying to be evasive.

+Instamine, bla, bla, bla...

WTF?? Exactly

Monero!!!

( Sorry for my bad english, again.)

"WTF?" Exactly my thought while reading this word salad.

I don't know if you are talking about this thread, criticisms of dash, or some sort of insider game of fake walls? Complete sentences explaining your thoughts coherently would go a long way--a lot longer than saying you have bad English. If it is that bad, why are you here? This isn't a Rosetta Stone forum and your posts read like trolling.

Maybe you'd prefer a pictorial representation. Some people find it easier to understand this way.

via Imgflip Meme Maker

sdmathis

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Quote from: Shrikez on June 13, 2015, 02:54:42 AM

Why be so complicated in such a simple matter:

everybody STFU and buy Grin

We can still trade back and forth in a higher price range but the marketcap is much more satisfying.

Kiss

The price is too high right now. I'll wait for the price to drop a little further before re-entering the Monero market.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: pinky on June 13, 2015, 07:00:08 AM

Quote from: montaga on June 13, 2015, 06:54:53 AM

What kind of investment?

What's a masternote? Is that what Evan puts in between the lines of code to remind himself what to change after he launches?

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Quote from: montaga on June 13, 2015, 06:54:53 AM

What kind of investment?

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vgo

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Quote from: nakaone on June 13, 2015, 04:39:44 AM

wtf is happening here?

Nothing, a miner killing whales. Tongue

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legendary accounts on a discount or wtf is happening here?

vgo

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Quote from: Shrikez on June 13, 2015, 04:00:52 AM

... Monero and its possibilities...

But no, we prefer a Pump and Dump coin in Polotrap world, fake walls, trolling other coins and YouTube dump videos. Roll Eyes

yay!!!

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on June 13, 2015, 03:31:20 AM

Quote from: Shrikez on June 13, 2015, 02:54:42 AM

Why be so complicated in such a simple matter:

everybody STFU and buy Grin

We can still trade back and forth in a higher price range but the marketcap is much more satisfying.

Kiss

If you want to buy this high, then go ahead but I am not a buyer now at this price point because I am speculating it will go lower from the current price as vgo told us.

It's only money.

Not that I don't care about money but my caring for the overall success of Monero and its possibilities and implications far outweigh my speculative interest.
Success comes with many things, market cap and liquidity amongst them.

I will always be fine as long as I can eat, sleep under a roof and care for my loved ones. More is optional.

Peace

PS: Urghs such self righteousness lol

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