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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1869. (Read 3314343 times)

legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
June 11, 2015, 08:26:35 PM
Anyone got a link to that 75btc dump, I lost it and have a need for a good laugh. Smiley
vgo
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1019
June 11, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
In other words you got burned. Really bad. Immediately after you sold the price began to rise. A 100k wall came up and crushed your dreams of buying back at 0.0017. Don't be such a bad loser, learn from your failure instead and turn a profit next time.

Seriously, I am very happy and I sleep very well , do not worry about me..  Kiss Kiss



I wouldn't say burned, because he didn't lost any money. The reward is rather low for this kind of risk though. Nonetheless, percentagewise it is an okay, but conservative, trade.
Depends on what you define as money, or losing money. If USD is what you consider money and you sold your bitcoins at $15 just before the rally to $266 with the intention to buy back at $14.5 I would say you got burned, even though technically you didn't lose any USD, it was still an awful trade. Similarly if monero never hits 0.0017 again, he got burned on that trade.

Never, Polo-Monero have "solid" "walls". Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1552
Merit: 1047
June 11, 2015, 06:24:08 PM
In other words you got burned. Really bad. Immediately after you sold the price began to rise. A 100k wall came up and crushed your dreams of buying back at 0.0017. Don't be such a bad loser, learn from your failure instead and turn a profit next time.

Seriously, I am very happy and I sleep very well , do not worry about me..  Kiss Kiss



I wouldn't say burned, because he didn't lost any money. The reward is rather low for this kind of risk though. Nonetheless, percentagewise it is an okay, but conservative, trade.
Depends on what you define as money, or losing money. If USD is what you consider money and you sold your bitcoins at $15 just before the rally to $266 with the intention to buy back at $14.5 I would say you got burned, even though technically you didn't lose any USD, it was still an awful trade. Similarly if monero never hits 0.0017 again, he got burned on that trade.
vgo
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1019
June 11, 2015, 06:20:31 PM
In other words you got burned. Really bad. Immediately after you sold the price began to rise. A 100k wall came up and crushed your dreams of buying back at 0.0017. Don't be such a bad loser, learn from your failure instead and turn a profit next time.

Seriously, I am very happy and I sleep very well , do not worry about me..  Kiss Kiss



I wouldn't say burned, because he didn't lost any money. The reward is rather low for this kind of risk though. Nonetheless, percentagewise it is an okay, but conservative, trade.

I showed only the last two movements, I started with 1.71 BTC  Wink

legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
June 11, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
In other words you got burned. Really bad. Immediately after you sold the price began to rise. A 100k wall came up and crushed your dreams of buying back at 0.0017. Don't be such a bad loser, learn from your failure instead and turn a profit next time.

Seriously, I am very happy and I sleep very well , do not worry about me..  Kiss Kiss



I wouldn't say burned, because he didn't lost any money. The reward is rather low for this kind of risk though. Nonetheless, percentagewise it is an okay, but conservative, trade.
vgo
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1019
June 11, 2015, 05:52:36 PM
In other words you got burned. Really bad. Immediately after you sold the price began to rise. A 100k wall came up and crushed your dreams of buying back at 0.0017. Don't be such a bad loser, learn from your failure instead and turn a profit next time.

Seriously, I am very happy and I sleep very well , do not worry about me..  Kiss Kiss

legendary
Activity: 1552
Merit: 1047
June 11, 2015, 05:40:54 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes
There is no such thing as a "fake" wall. Once an order has been placed on the market it is there and ready to be executed. People put up and remove walls all the time, but most walls are too small to notice. People like to pay attention to big walls and sometimes alter their trades based on it. It sounds like you are grumpy and my guess is that you got burned. Welcome to the free market. I hope after a few more years you'll learn to appreciate the liquidity that such walls provide for large holders. I personally would be delighted to see more big walls appear, it will give me more confidence in the market. For I could quickly get rid of my position by dumping into such "fake" walls, the more of them appears, the more opportunities I have to do so.

Instead of getting mad for what you deem to be "manipulation" and "fake walls" I encourage to take advantage of your knowledge and turn it into profit.



I don´t trade XMR since 05/31, zero drama.  Wink Wink



Now waiting for 0.00017... again ( or some instamine coin with no fake walls  Kiss).


In other words you got burned. Really bad. Immediately after you sold the price began to rise. A 100k wall came up and crushed your dreams of buying back at 0.0017. Don't be such a bad loser, learn from your failure instead and turn a profit next time.

Sometimes walls are far enough away from the market they are unlikely to be executed and may be attempts to influence the market. That might loosely be called a "fake" wall. Of course such orders still could be executed so the wall-maker-manipluator is putting real coins at risk putting such a wall up, at almost any price.

I think the difference between "real" and "fake" wall (or any limit order) lies in the placer's thinking:

- if he wishes the order to be fulfilled, the wall is "real"
- if he hopes that it will achieve some other purpose but not be fulfilled, it is fake

Both types of walls abound, and it is not immediately obvious which is which, and situations change rapidly, so that even the same order can at times be "real" and then "fake".

Every wall is precious, because they add to the liquidity. From the counterparty's perspective, it does not matter if the wall was "fake" or "real"  Grin
That's a fair way to put it.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
June 11, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes
There is no such thing as a "fake" wall. Once an order has been placed on the market it is there and ready to be executed. People put up and remove walls all the time, but most walls are too small to notice. People like to pay attention to big walls and sometimes alter their trades based on it. It sounds like you are grumpy and my guess is that you got burned. Welcome to the free market. I hope after a few more years you'll learn to appreciate the liquidity that such walls provide for large holders. I personally would be delighted to see more big walls appear, it will give me more confidence in the market. For I could quickly get rid of my position by dumping into such "fake" walls, the more of them appears, the more opportunities I have to do so.

Instead of getting mad for what you deem to be "manipulation" and "fake walls" I encourage to take advantage of your knowledge and turn it into profit.



That is so true. It's really a shame that more people don't understant the opportunities that walls create. Not only do they provide liquidity, they provide you with an opportunity to buy or sell without moving the market. If you want to acquire a large position without driving the price up and costing yourself a fortune, wait for a big sell wall. Not only will you get the opportunity to screw somebody trying to drive the price down, you'll also get a sizable position for a reasonable price.

Buy walls give people with large positions the opportunity to exit their position without screwing everybody over by driving the price down. So don't think of large walls as something bad. Think of them as an opportunity.

donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
June 11, 2015, 05:15:21 PM
Sometimes walls are far enough away from the market they are unlikely to be executed and may be attempts to influence the market. That might loosely be called a "fake" wall. Of course such orders still could be executed so the wall-maker-manipluator is putting real coins at risk putting such a wall up, at almost any price.

I think the difference between "real" and "fake" wall (or any limit order) lies in the placer's thinking:

- if he wishes the order to be fulfilled, the wall is "real"
- if he hopes that it will achieve some other purpose but not be fulfilled, it is fake

Both types of walls abound, and it is not immediately obvious which is which, and situations change rapidly, so that even the same order can at times be "real" and then "fake".

Every wall is precious, because they add to the liquidity. From the counterparty's perspective, it does not matter if the wall was "fake" or "real"  Grin
vgo
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1019
June 11, 2015, 05:11:18 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes
There is no such thing as a "fake" wall. Once an order has been placed on the market it is there and ready to be executed. People put up and remove walls all the time, but most walls are too small to notice. People like to pay attention to big walls and sometimes alter their trades based on it. It sounds like you are grumpy and my guess is that you got burned. Welcome to the free market. I hope after a few more years you'll learn to appreciate the liquidity that such walls provide for large holders. I personally would be delighted to see more big walls appear, it will give me more confidence in the market. For I could quickly get rid of my position by dumping into such "fake" walls, the more of them appears, the more opportunities I have to do so.

Instead of getting mad for what you deem to be "manipulation" and "fake walls" I encourage to take advantage of your knowledge and turn it into profit.



I don´t trade XMR since 05/31, zero drama.  Wink Wink



Now waiting for 0.0017... again ( or some instamine coin with no fake walls  Kiss).

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
June 11, 2015, 05:07:32 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes
There is no such thing as a "fake" wall. Once an order has been placed on the market it is there and ready to be executed. People put up and remove walls all the time, but most walls are too small to notice. People like to pay attention to big walls and sometimes alter their trades based on it. It sounds like you are grumpy and my guess is that you got burned. Welcome to the free market. I hope after a few more years you'll learn to appreciate the liquidity that such walls provide for large holders. I personally would be delighted to see more big walls appear, it will give me more confidence in the market. For I could quickly get rid of my position by dumping into such "fake" walls, the more of them appears, the more opportunities I have to do so.

Instead of getting mad for what you deem to be "manipulation" and "fake walls" I encourage to take advantage of your knowledge and turn it into profit.

Sometimes walls are far enough away from the market they are unlikely to be executed and may be attempts to influence the market. That might loosely be called a "fake" wall. Of course such orders still could be executed so the wall-maker-manipluator is putting real coins at risk putting such a wall up, at almost any price.

legendary
Activity: 1552
Merit: 1047
June 11, 2015, 04:23:13 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes
There is no such thing as a "fake" wall. Once an order has been placed on the market it is there and ready to be executed. People put up and remove walls all the time, but most walls are too small to notice. People like to pay attention to big walls and sometimes alter their trades based on it. It sounds like you are grumpy and my guess is that you got burned. Welcome to the free market. I hope after a few more years you'll learn to appreciate the liquidity that such walls provide for large holders. I personally would be delighted to see more big walls appear, it will give me more confidence in the market. For I could quickly get rid of my position by dumping into such "fake" walls, the more of them appears, the more opportunities I have to do so.

Instead of getting mad for what you deem to be "manipulation" and "fake walls" I encourage to take advantage of your knowledge and turn it into profit.

legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
June 11, 2015, 02:49:16 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes

How is this relevant?
vgo
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1019
June 11, 2015, 02:28:39 PM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.

Better make a fake Wall. Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
June 11, 2015, 11:25:37 AM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

1. I said a NEUTRAL Escrow.
2. We would go to a notary/lawyer to testify the trade history, costs a few hundred bucks.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
June 11, 2015, 10:48:01 AM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?

Provide a picture of his/her polo trading history?
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
June 11, 2015, 10:43:26 AM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
How do you do that? You can, for example, give risto 25 BTC and tell him to say he did it.

How can you prove it?
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
June 11, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
Hello newly registered fake account,

I am willing to proof it with a monetary bet of 50 BTC or the equal amount in XMR;

Whichever escrow is used is up to you as long as he´s neutral and has a good reputation.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
June 10, 2015, 10:19:47 PM
The 25k or so dump was from someone i know, there was no reason except he needed fiat for a bigger expense he is forced to make soon.

https://i.imgur.com/94AuBU7.gif

Want to put your money where your mouth? Let´s make a little bet.


No one here puts their money where their mouth is, its all keyboard warriors.

prove it or STFU
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1008
June 10, 2015, 08:24:01 PM
yeop, when the gifs come out, you're reminded about the reality of the whole scene.
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