[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 2113.

binaryFate

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Still wild and free

Quote from: othe on November 21, 2014, 02:56:14 PM

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Why should I give money for free?
I will rather get (passive) income from my moneros instead of just donating.

When I read that I was also amazed. He just entered my personal category of assholes. I almost clicked ignore out of disgust for this kind of thoughts.

Confusing an open source project with a business is just terribly wrong. Seriously, acting like that in front of the persons giving a lot of their time and knowledge, for free, is harsh. I wish he sell quick and stop commenting on this project, whose human and ideological standards are apparently way too high for him.

I'm sure 99% of the serious holders are extremely grateful to the core team and to anybody giving something to Monero at large. Thank you guys, don't get pissed because of this kind of dumb comments, they don't deserve it!

othe

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Investors dont give a fuck how much a coin is mined, only miners will, it makes no difference for investors and regular users.
Later users will prolly even like it that there's not a lot of inflation anymore...

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In general I do not believe in donations, the money should be collected in a way like any other business does.
Name me one person who wants to work for free? If there are no people working for free why should I give my money just as donations?

We aren't a fucking business and i quote Gavin Andresen now:
"Do not treat the core development team as if we were a commercial company that sold you a software library. That is not how open source works; if you are making a profit using the software, you are expected to help develop, debug, test, and review it.”

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Also I agree still that a coin needs more users than me + Risto - what's the problem?

How dare are you dude? All other people here don' t count or what? Something is certainly wrong with you.

And don't compare yourself to Risto, because Risto HELPS AND DOES SOMETHING.

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Yes, Satoshi worked for free but I guess he was doing it more as experimental than serious investment/money maker.

And you think we earn cash here working on XMR!?!??!

TrueCryptonaire

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Quote from: UnicornFarts on November 21, 2014, 03:16:56 PM

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Name me one person who wants to work for free?

Satoshi.

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The emission is still unfair towards later adoption and it is kind of problem.

It is unfair towards both EARLY adopters AND late adopters.

People in the middle get the best deal.

Yes, Satoshi worked for free but I guess he was doing it more as experimental than serious investment/money maker. Then bitcoin just went viral.

I am also doing my school projects for free. Some people are even paying for the opportunity to do school projects.

UnicornFarts

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Name me one person who wants to work for free?

Satoshi.

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The emission is still unfair towards later adoption and it is kind of problem.

It is unfair towards both EARLY adopters AND late adopters.

People in the middle get the best deal.

TrueCryptonaire

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Quote from: othe on November 21, 2014, 02:56:14 PM

I never said that it doesn't, why are you flipping my words?
I said not single word against investors in general.

I simply dislike the way he behaves:

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Why should I give money for free?
I will rather get (passive) income from my moneros instead of just donating.

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At this point I would choose emission.
I do not care brilliantly functioning coins if the only holders are me + Risto.

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Monero is currently more or less premine coin.

I am acting rationally and maximizing my personal utility.
In general I do not believe in donations, the money should be collected in a way like any other business does.
Name me one person who wants to work for free? If there are no people working for free why should I give my money just as donations?

Also I agree still that a coin needs more users than me + Risto - what's the problem? The price is declining and this is nothing but due to the lack of adoption and it looks to me like a few whales are buying all the coins since smaller fish cannot addord to buy the daily emission (at the point I was writing this the price was hoovering somewhere around 0.002 - and now it is at 0.0015).

What comes to my comment on "premine". I corrected it already in my other messages. However, this is just semantics. The emission is still unfair towards later adoption and it is kind of problem. I can adjust myself to this but I am more worried about the later adopter's behalf if they refuse buying Monero due to this fast emission. That's all. Monero is not a premine, but it is mined pretty fast.

UnicornFarts

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lol! premine is when you get something for nothing, Roll Eyes

monero is people pumping into high emissions so EVERYONE lost money. all early adopters losing money is a little bit different than premine ... everybody supporting the coin might be broke. but that isn't a ding on the coins integrity like a premine

guess all the dumb shilling by rich accounts has finally f***** everyone in the ass. STILL not a premine

othe

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I never said that it doesn't, why are you flipping my words?
I said not single word against investors in general.

I simply dislike the way he behaves:

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Why should I give money for free?
I will rather get (passive) income from my moneros instead of just donating.

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At this point I would choose emission.
I do not care brilliantly functioning coins if the only holders are me + Risto.

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Monero is currently more or less premine coin.

Wekkel

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yes

Quote from: othe on November 21, 2014, 11:20:49 AM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on November 21, 2014, 09:42:02 AM

I will dump if it will skyrocket.

Yeah seriously, the XMR community doesn't need people like you, in fact, the whole Bitcoin/crypto ecosystem doesn't.

XMR DOES need speculators. Think about this a bit longer before lashing out again.

Febo

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Sell Orders are 212k, long time not so low. But weekends are always bad for Monero. So i expect some moves in beginning of next week.

So pro tip for day traders, listen Cryptonaire. Buy now or on Sunday evening and sell next Friday.

griffinriz

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i hope no one dumps now, *impossible*

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: rdnkjdi on November 21, 2014, 12:19:31 PM

Lol why do people take it personal when people sell? It's about adoption and the inherent things a coin brings to the table ... not having loyal fanboys who hodle long enough

I don't mind, I only asked why. I agree, but having loyal fanboys who hodl long enough also reduce sell presure.

rdnkjdi

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Lol why do people take it personal when people sell? It's about adoption and the inherent things a coin brings to the table ... not having loyal fanboys who hodle long enough

TrueCryptonaire

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Quote from: othe on November 21, 2014, 11:20:49 AM

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on November 21, 2014, 09:42:02 AM

Quote from: dnaleor on November 21, 2014, 09:32:36 AM

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Looks like the dumpers are out of coins (for now). Support is really huge. So with a little push we can maybe see 0.0025+ in next weeks? Also some cool news from devs perhaps?

i'm also surprised to see the buy support being so strong.
i hope we have seen the bottom in the market...

emission going down every day, good news about the come...

Run to 0.0025 seems very much possible by the end of the year

I will dump if it will skyrocket.

Yeah seriously, the XMR community doesn't need people like you, in fact, the whole Bitcoin/crypto ecosystem doesn't.

Whining the whole fucking day and doing nothing... i love people like that.

PS: This is my personal opinion.

All I said is that if the price goes to bubble I will sell to strength.
My contribution is to give my coins for the hungry mouths. Grin

othe

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on November 21, 2014, 09:42:02 AM

Quote from: dnaleor on November 21, 2014, 09:32:36 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Looks like the dumpers are out of coins (for now). Support is really huge. So with a little push we can maybe see 0.0025+ in next weeks? Also some cool news from devs perhaps?

i'm also surprised to see the buy support being so strong.
i hope we have seen the bottom in the market...

emission going down every day, good news about the come...

Run to 0.0025 seems very much possible by the end of the year

I will dump if it will skyrocket.

Yeah seriously, the XMR community doesn't need people like you, in fact, the whole Bitcoin/crypto ecosystem doesn't.

Whining the whole fucking day and doing nothing... i love people like that.

PS: This is my personal opinion.

dEBRUYNE

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on November 21, 2014, 09:42:02 AM

Quote from: dnaleor on November 21, 2014, 09:32:36 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Looks like the dumpers are out of coins (for now). Support is really huge. So with a little push we can maybe see 0.0025+ in next weeks? Also some cool news from devs perhaps?

i'm also surprised to see the buy support being so strong.
i hope we have seen the bottom in the market...

emission going down every day, good news about the come...

Run to 0.0025 seems very much possible by the end of the year

I will dump if it will skyrocket.

If serious, why? Your monero are becomming more valuable!

papa_lazzarou

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on November 21, 2014, 09:42:02 AM

I will dump if it will skyrocket.

Please do! And move along.

TrueCryptonaire

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Quote from: dnaleor on November 21, 2014, 09:32:36 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Looks like the dumpers are out of coins (for now). Support is really huge. So with a little push we can maybe see 0.0025+ in next weeks? Also some cool news from devs perhaps?

i'm also surprised to see the buy support being so strong.
i hope we have seen the bottom in the market...

emission going down every day, good news about the come...

Run to 0.0025 seems very much possible by the end of the year

I will dump if it will skyrocket.

dnaleor

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1000

Want privacy? Use Monero!

Quote from: ?? on ??

Looks like the dumpers are out of coins (for now). Support is really huge. So with a little push we can maybe see 0.0025+ in next weeks? Also some cool news from devs perhaps?

i'm also surprised to see the buy support being so strong.
i hope we have seen the bottom in the market...

emission going down every day, good news about the come...

Run to 0.0025 seems very much possible by the end of the year

othe

hero member

Activity: 532

Merit: 500

Quote from: oblox on November 20, 2014, 10:37:37 AM

Quote from: othe on November 20, 2014, 07:53:03 AM

Quote from: oblox on November 20, 2014, 01:06:17 AM

Quote from: saddambitcoin on November 20, 2014, 12:32:28 AM

Hey guys because of all this talk about Darkcoin I decided to finally install a wallet. Cheesy

It looks and behaves just like the Bitcoin-qt wallet. Much more confusing than the upcoming Monero GUI. Just one more reason I feel confident to accumulate and hold Monero.

Yeah, I forgot how hard it is to push a large button that says "Start Darksend"

Yeah, especially if you just want to pay for something and have to "premix" your coins first, you are right.

Different strokes for different folks... guess I better go bust out the command line...

Yeah or stop beeing ignorant and use one of the GUIs (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monerox-a-cross-platform-graphical-account-manager-for-monero-683365 etc.).

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: Hueristic on November 19, 2014, 01:12:23 PM

Wrong thread but it relates to price direction.

That Monero team (whatever It's called) needs to get on marketing DirectBet addition. Monero needs an inroad into Gambling sites.

If and when It's added Monero needs even a quick gui to only use DirectBet if the Wallet is not ready yet. Making gui's with command line arguments is the easiest program there is.

Get to quote myself. Cheesy

I called it.

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