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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 237. (Read 3314316 times)

legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
August 30, 2018, 09:13:20 PM

Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

I think they are understating the case, but what i find interesting is this -->


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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.

Figures don't lie but lairs figure. Cheesy
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August 30, 2018, 04:04:32 PM

Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

I think they are understating the case, but what i find interesting is this -->


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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.

Yeeeaaahh, well, what i personally find very interesting in the report, is the privacy factor they are taking into account!

---quote---
The largest upside we see in the entire cryptoasset market is in the Privacy sector. Although Privacy networks are newer entrants,we believe the network effects seen from the likes of BTC earlier on will be repeated within dominant coins here. Not only do these coins  target  the  same  large  and  lower  velocity  store  of  value  market as BTC  and  Currencies,  they present  a much  deeper  value proposition within those markets. As we stated above, the largest drivers of adoption within these networks will be continued pressure from capital controls, currency devaluation, and broader global turmoil. The use cases within the Privacy markets are incredibly sticky and feed on adoption, especially when regulators and law enforcement are making efforts to increase forensic penetration into public networks like BTC. Privacy networks do lack liquidity when compared to more commonly used Currencies, but they excel in and push the extremes of each use case within Currency networks.  Recently, we have already seen early signs of adoption by some of these cryptoassets; ransoms being posted to large corporations where even BTC could be tracked and was not the preferred method, money laundering, and asset shielding. Looking into the space, we believe the use cases that target the largest endmarkets will primarily use XMR (~60%) and ZEC (~20%). Despite developers and executives associated with these projects declining to comment upon illegal use (to avoid legal ramifications), the largest opportunity within the Privacy networks will be unlawful activities. Considering the nature of the use cases,  the Privacy market user  base will  most  likely  rely on networks  that  have  more  active  codebase  development, more resistance to centralized control (possibly through mining), a growing ecosystem, and growing user base. Not only is XMR far more active in codebase development (prior report,pg. 20) and resistant to centralized mining efforts, it is fungible. While ZEC has an easier time being traded in regulated markets (since it has privacy features by request, not by default), we believe this will be a setback to adoption by darker markets, which prefer networks that are fungible (where  more addresses use privacy than those which do not, making it more difficult to track down/blacklist tainted addresses). Only ~5% of the ZEC network uses “shielded” (or private) addresses currently, with the rest of the addresses being used for transactions functionally and technically no different than BTC.
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legendary
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August 30, 2018, 03:17:56 PM

Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

I think they are understating the case, but what i find interesting is this -->


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The Satis Group LLC is affiliated as d/b/a with Corinthian Partners LLC (Member FINRA and SIPC), an asset management investment bank and broker dealer founded in 1996 by Richard Calabrese and Mitchell Manoff, formerly of Lehman Brothers.
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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.
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August 30, 2018, 01:50:47 PM

Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

I think they are understating the case, but what i find interesting is this -->


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The Satis Group LLC is affiliated as d/b/a with Corinthian Partners LLC (Member FINRA and SIPC), an asset management investment bank and broker dealer founded in 1996 by Richard Calabrese and Mitchell Manoff, formerly of Lehman Brothers.
© 2017-2018 Satis Group. All rights reserved.
newbie
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August 30, 2018, 01:49:58 PM
Notice that in one model they have ADA increasing by 4270% and in another it's essentially worthless.  It's also hard to imagine that so many of these coins will be around or have any value in 5 years. The summary does claim that: "Currency and Privacy networks will be the largest beneficiaries, as most fundamental value will stem from store of value use cases"
legendary
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August 30, 2018, 01:46:20 PM

Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time and $25 billions already next year Shocked
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August 30, 2018, 01:18:21 PM

Nice one thank you, even the uptrend is slightly argumented  Grin
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August 30, 2018, 03:54:32 AM
This is more then 3 months old article. You would already seen effects of it on it's price. But it is actually hard to see since the whole cryptomarket is in bearish move atm.
Anyway I think until we are down to 2-3 exchanges there is nothing to worry about.

P.S. I have seen that there is some kind of community activation on Bisq (https://bisq.network/ -decentralized exchange). They trade XMR-BTC (I think) pair there on Mondays. So if anyone is interested they can join them. I think they've made over 100k of volume one day. (https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1026477796883931136)

Speaking of volume, this nice little market movement the last few days is on very low volume. Hmmm

One of the ongoing most amusing considerations I have about this rather functional privacy coin, driven by privacy nuts, is this tendency of not less than a thousand or so people to rationalize, speculate and explain market movements based on absolutely fictitious numbers like, specifically, the one reported on coinirssecmarketcap.

Additionally, I also appreciate that not less than ten existing people speculate that there exists the possibility that things aren't as they seem, for no reason other than to challenge reality out of abject boredom. Or some such idea like that .. Cheesy

Reality beats fiction by far Grin
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August 29, 2018, 10:07:14 PM
This is more then 3 months old article. You would already seen effects of it on it's price. But it is actually hard to see since the whole cryptomarket is in bearish move atm.
Anyway I think until we are down to 2-3 exchanges there is nothing to worry about.

P.S. I have seen that there is some kind of community activation on Bisq (https://bisq.network/ -decentralized exchange). They trade XMR-BTC (I think) pair there on Mondays. So if anyone is interested they can join them. I think they've made over 100k of volume one day. (https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1026477796883931136)

Speaking of volume, this nice little market movement the last few days is on very low volume. Hmmm

One of the ongoing most amusing considerations I have about this rather functional privacy coin, driven by privacy nuts, is this tendency of not less than a thousand or so people to rationalize, speculate and explain market movements based on absolutely fictitious numbers like, specifically, the one reported on coinirssecmarketcap.

Additionally, I also appreciate that not less than ten existing people speculate that there exists the possibility that things aren't as they seem, for no reason other than to challenge reality out of abject boredom. Or some such idea like that .. Cheesy
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August 29, 2018, 04:13:18 PM
in general, 99.66 dollars are quite good prospects for the Monero. Especially today, the coin shows a 16% increase, which is the best market indicator.
Yes, high caps like Monero and ETH are always a good indicator for the whole crypto market.

Many altcoins are waiting for the high caps start dancing again. Smiley

We are coming Grin

Eventually though all the bullshit has to fall away and the few projects that matter remain.

It could* just be Bitcoin in the end.  But my money (about 3 bucks) is on Monero surviving the shakeout.

I do not think so do, i am all in in Monero since 2014  Kiss Grin
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August 29, 2018, 01:35:38 PM
it seems that "emerging" countries with falling fiat currencies are now a good support for crypto markets:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/bitcoin-new-safe-haven-trade
legendary
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August 28, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
in general, 99.66 dollars are quite good prospects for the Monero. Especially today, the coin shows a 16% increase, which is the best market indicator.
Yes, high caps like Monero and ETH are always a good indicator for the whole crypto market.

Many altcoins are waiting for the high caps start dancing again. Smiley

We are coming Grin

Eventually though all the bullshit has to fall away and the few projects that matter remain.

It could* just be Bitcoin in the end.  But my money (about 3 bucks) is on Monero surviving the shakeout.
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August 28, 2018, 03:19:19 PM
I'm sad because I needed to sell a huge part of my Monero to buy a car, but in other way I couldn't afford a brand new car at this moment.

HODLing the rest of Moneros as if they were gold Monero
lol why buy a new car whit monero right now? It will be 1k until summer

In the end it wasn't a bad move, soon I'll be able to rebuy all that was spent  Grin Cheesy

If you actually do it, good for you.  If not, SMH.  New cars are over rated.  Nearly free new cars however, are pretty fuckin cool Wink

Is this the end of cheap Morenitos?  Cry

Looks like it, tastes like it, smells like it Grin
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August 28, 2018, 02:45:37 PM
I'm sad because I needed to sell a huge part of my Monero to buy a car, but in other way I couldn't afford a brand new car at this moment.

HODLing the rest of Moneros as if they were gold Monero
lol why buy a new car whit monero right now? It will be 1k until summer

In the end it wasn't a bad move, soon I'll be able to rebuy all that was spent  Grin Cheesy

If you actually do it, good for you.  If not, SMH.  New cars are over rated.  Nearly free new cars however, are pretty fuckin cool Wink

Is this the end of cheap Morenitos?  Cry
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August 28, 2018, 12:38:25 PM
We are picking up some momentum, this will get interesting for the mid of next week  Roll Eyes
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August 28, 2018, 10:12:50 AM
This is more then 3 months old article. You would already seen effects of it on it's price. But it is actually hard to see since the whole cryptomarket is in bearish move atm.
Anyway I think until we are down to 2-3 exchanges there is nothing to worry about.

P.S. I have seen that there is some kind of community activation on Bisq (https://bisq.network/ -decentralized exchange). They trade XMR-BTC (I think) pair there on Mondays. So if anyone is interested they can join them. I think they've made over 100k of volume one day. (https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1026477796883931136)

Speaking of volume, this nice little market movement the last few days is on very low volume. Hmmm
You mean Bisq? https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/
It is decentralized exchange which focuses on privacy a lot. (at least from what I have read) And it's not very user friendly, at least wasn't when I last checked. That is probably the reason for low volume. Especially if you know what most of the crypto currency "enthusiast" are about (quick, simple money). So no wonder Monero's community was the first to use it properly. P.S. I can't understand how you can trade EUR, USD etc. there though.
Anyway I've heard all about this Bisq "activation" in Monero Telegram group: https://t.me/monero so if you or anyone else has more questions about this I advise you to ask there. And of course feel free to join for a debate.

Sad thing it is run over TOR, would appreciate it running over Kovri Grin
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August 28, 2018, 10:11:23 AM
in general, 99.66 dollars are quite good prospects for the Monero. Especially today, the coin shows a 16% increase, which is the best market indicator.
Yes, high caps like Monero and ETH are always a good indicator for the whole crypto market.

Many altcoins are waiting for the high caps start dancing again. Smiley

We are coming Grin
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August 28, 2018, 10:06:21 AM
in general, 99.66 dollars are quite good prospects for the Monero. Especially today, the coin shows a 16% increase, which is the best market indicator.
Yes, high caps like Monero and ETH are always a good indicator for the whole crypto market.

Many altcoins are waiting for the high caps start dancing again. Smiley
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BTC, ETH, XMR, LTC
August 28, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
This is more then 3 months old article. You would already seen effects of it on it's price. But it is actually hard to see since the whole cryptomarket is in bearish move atm.
Anyway I think until we are down to 2-3 exchanges there is nothing to worry about.

P.S. I have seen that there is some kind of community activation on Bisq (https://bisq.network/ -decentralized exchange). They trade XMR-BTC (I think) pair there on Mondays. So if anyone is interested they can join them. I think they've made over 100k of volume one day. (https://twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1026477796883931136)

Speaking of volume, this nice little market movement the last few days is on very low volume. Hmmm
You mean Bisq? https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bisq/
It is decentralized exchange which focuses on privacy a lot. (at least from what I have read) And it's not very user friendly, at least wasn't when I last checked. That is probably the reason for low volume. Especially if you know what most of the crypto currency "enthusiast" are about (quick, simple money). So no wonder Monero's community was the first to use it properly. P.S. I can't understand how you can trade EUR, USD etc. there though.
Anyway I've heard all about this Bisq "activation" in Monero Telegram group: https://t.me/monero so if you or anyone else has more questions about this I advise you to ask there. And of course feel free to join for a debate.
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