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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 274. (Read 3314316 times)

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BITCOIN===>THE DISRUPTIVE CYBERCURRENCY
June 06, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
Is this coin dead? Asking for a friend.  Cool  #gitlab when?


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[10:31] <@fluffypony> LEGENDOFOWLZZZ: no.
[10:32] YES MAN
[10:32] I DID
[10:32] FOR U
 >_>
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whats up fatty? Smiley nice watch >_> lol


YOU COME OUT OF HIDING JUST FOR GITLAB? BWAAHAHA

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June 06, 2018, 01:23:46 PM
Is this coin dead? Asking for a friend.  Cool  #gitlab when?


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[10:31] <@fluffypony> LEGENDOFOWLZZZ: no.
[10:32] YES MAN
[10:32] I DID
[10:32] FOR U
 >_>
[10:33] == mode/#monero-dev [+b LEGENDOFOWLZZZ*!*@*] by fluffypony
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BITCOIN===>THE DISRUPTIVE CYBERCURRENCY
June 06, 2018, 12:45:12 PM
Beg? What the fuck are you talking about, I thought you were bribing them with our donations?

Shopify is a service provider. "Merchant", in the context of this proposal, refers to entities who (mostly) use Shopify right now. Whether we integrate with Shopify or not is irrelevant, the proposal is for integration with the merchants in whatever form that takes, not integration with Shopify.

I do have to ask though Fluffy... Does Shopify actually want Monero as a payment method or is this guy like "doing you a solid"..?  Sounds like they want to accept cryptocurrencies in general (maybe to avoid global payment issues).  So would they just want just any cryptocurrency, or whichever cryptocurrency community that pays the bounty?  And don't you, as the CEO, have somewhat of a say in what cryptos you would recommend for shopify to use?

You misunderstand. Shopify is a service provider, they don't care WHAT the payment method is. If you provide technology to pay people in purple cats, Shopify doesn't really care, because the money is passing between Purple Cat Payments and the merchants. BUT they are the gatekeepers and need to be convinced that they're not actually facilitating Purple Cat Slave Trade.

I'm still a little confused as to why/how other cryptocurrency projects might "beat us to the punch" if the news was leaked.

I feel like I'd just be re-typing what I said to KeyJockey, so scroll up for a response to that.

Is this coin dead? Asking for a friend.  Cool  #gitlab when?


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[10:31] <@fluffypony> LEGENDOFOWLZZZ: no.
[10:32] YES MAN
[10:32] I DID
[10:32] FOR U
 >_>
[10:33] == mode/#monero-dev [+b LEGENDOFOWLZZZ*!*@*] by fluffypony
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
June 06, 2018, 09:29:05 AM
Shit better hurry forgot to grab some of that sweet sweet bitconnect. Damn I'm always late to the party, getting on board now! Cheesy

BTW Gary, are those gains Guaranteed?

Sure, I can guarantee you anything you want pal.
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June 06, 2018, 07:55:38 AM
Shit better hurry forgot to grab some of that sweet sweet bitconnect. Damn I'm always late to the party, getting on board now! Cheesy

BTW Gary, are those gains Guaranteed?
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June 06, 2018, 06:59:16 AM
I guess monero lost it's stronghold for now, from top 5 it losses it's position to now 12 i guess. I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments as of now. I guess it is time for the devs to come up with something new that may convince it's previous and new investors. Not just another community hype but a progress that will make XMR a promising coin for the future.

Dead project.  Move along.  I wish they would work on the development of Monero, but there is never any progress.  I think I will sell my last 3 XMR for cardano or maybe tron, where constant progress is the rule.
Bitconnect is best buy now, 100000x gains by christmas

Solidcoin only coin.

No hilarious guy on stage yelling 'Bbbiiiiikkooonnneeeeek!!!!' tho.  Cheesy
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June 05, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
I guess monero lost it's stronghold for now, from top 5 it losses it's position to now 12 i guess. I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments as of now. I guess it is time for the devs to come up with something new that may convince it's previous and new investors. Not just another community hype but a progress that will make XMR a promising coin for the future.

Dead project.  Move along.  I wish they would work on the development of Monero, but there is never any progress.  I think I will sell my last 3 XMR for cardano or maybe tron, where constant progress is the rule.
Bitconnect is best buy now, 100000x gains by christmas

Solidcoin only coin.
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
June 05, 2018, 05:35:17 PM
I guess monero lost it's stronghold for now, from top 5 it losses it's position to now 12 i guess. I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments as of now. I guess it is time for the devs to come up with something new that may convince it's previous and new investors. Not just another community hype but a progress that will make XMR a promising coin for the future.

Dead project.  Move along.  I wish they would work on the development of Monero, but there is never any progress.  I think I will sell my last 3 XMR for cardano or maybe tron, where constant progress is the rule.
Bitconnect is best buy now, 100000x gains by christmas
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June 05, 2018, 05:23:06 PM
I guess monero lost it's stronghold for now, from top 5 it losses it's position to now 12 i guess. I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments as of now. I guess it is time for the devs to come up with something new that may convince it's previous and new investors. Not just another community hype but a progress that will make XMR a promising coin for the future.

Dead project.  Move along.  I wish they would work on the development of Monero, but there is never any progress.  I think I will sell my last 3 XMR for cardano or maybe tron, where constant progress is the rule.
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June 05, 2018, 02:37:40 PM
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June 05, 2018, 11:41:09 AM
My long term target for XMR is a price of at least 0.1 BTC. Crypto market has highly demand for anonymous assets in times where government institutions try to regulate whole crypto markets.
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June 05, 2018, 11:29:18 AM
I don't think you understand that centralizing network hash with ASICs is detrimental to network security.
I don't think you understanding anything about cryptocurrencies.

Have you heard about Bitcoin? It's the most secure crypto network, courtesy of ASICs.

It's scary that a decision so important was taken following a Reddit mob, or a secret committee of devs, with such a poor understanding of the matter.

Mining centralization hasn't made Bitcoin the most secure network, it's made it an easy target for China if they decide they want to disrupt the network--looking at hashing power in a vacuum is a pointless exercise as there are numerous factors that go into how secure a network is.

Also, the person you are addressing has forgotten more about cryptocurrencies than you know, or likely will ever know.
I agreed, he has probably forgotten a lot more than I could.

I am happy to learn that Bitcoin isn't the most secure network because you say so. You are an invaluable source of knowledge.

Bitcoin developers would make Bitcoin ASIC resistant if they could.  But they cant since Bitcoin dont fork every half year to make needed upgrades.  Sooner or latter Monero will not be ASIC resistant anymore. Lets hope that will not be so soon and lets hope  ASIC market will mature until then.
The fact that Bitcoin devs cannot fork Bitcoin to change a core feature on a whim is one reason why Monero will never compete against Bitcoin on the monetary use case.

The fact that the devs can change the POW on Monero is a fucking disgrace and strongly diminish its long term expected value. I look forward to see their next unilateral change of a core protocol feature.

I think you don't get the point about security... now let's say BTC and Monero would both have the same Price ... what do you think is more secure AND decentralized.... a monero that can be CPU&GPU mined by ANYONE... or aj ASIC mined Bitcoin where way less people mine and the biggest stashes are likely mined by the HW producers themselves
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June 05, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments

Stop eating the lead based paint from your rocking horse
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June 05, 2018, 08:43:05 AM
XMR is being added to Huobi???

https://twitter.com/BitMartian/status/1003985430273028096


If this is true it is big. Huobi is last big exchange without Monero.  I believe you can withdraw small daily amounts even when not verified account.  Like blast from the past.
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June 05, 2018, 08:38:03 AM
I guess monero lost it's stronghold for now, from top 5 it losses it's position to now 12 i guess. I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments as of now. I guess it is time for the devs to come up with something new that may convince it's previous and new investors. Not just another community hype but a progress that will make XMR a promising coin for the future.

Orrrr, maybe it's designed to be money and not a investment opportunity as in if you read any of the literature?

But you can always get a bunch of redditors to back Mcafee and you'll get a quick pump to exit on.
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June 05, 2018, 08:20:50 AM
I guess monero lost it's stronghold for now, from top 5 it losses it's position to now 12 i guess. I believe the blame is on the devs itself because of there are no upcoming news or further developments as of now. I guess it is time for the devs to come up with something new that may convince it's previous and new investors. Not just another community hype but a progress that will make XMR a promising coin for the future.
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June 05, 2018, 07:46:25 AM
0.12.2.0 tagged for release. https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases/tag/v0.12.2.0

The reddit fam are thinking with this release a more official announcement of ledger support will occur.
May add a little today on the pure hope that ledger support isn't fully priced in. Assuming that affects price at all.

Great to see but yeah, it's already priced in. You never know though a P&D may follow but I will bet against a major floor raise. Although I think we turned the corner on the slide so this is indeed great news.

The fact that Bitcoin devs cannot fork Bitcoin to change a core feature on a whim is one reason why Monero will never compete against Bitcoin on the monetary use case.

The fact that the devs can change the POW on Monero is a fucking disgrace and strongly diminish its long term expected value. I look forward to see their next unilateral change of a core protocol feature.

No the fact that this is possible is because Monero had forks every 6 months and until that will go on will be possible.  Why that is possible, because Monero developers are not afraid of anyone to keep old fork alive as many other coins developers are.


BldSwtTrs if you like ASIC mined Monero you have it. It dont have few important upgrades but there it is. Support it and make it grow and donate or hire their developers to develop it further or at least copy/paste new Monero code there.   You can do it. But all this is sort of offcopic here then.   Dont say something is disgrace, just do it better and show the way with example.


Either your feeding a troll or he is ignorant of so many basic concepts have fun catching him up to date. Wink

So what are people implying here?

That's ASIC owners were also the coin pumpers and manipulators?




Some points:

- Hashrate was DOMINATED by "unknown" players last year and up to the HF.
- This was often attributed to botnets.
- 2 manufacturers produced CN ASICS around the time of this increase
- The moment the hashing alg was changed >60% hashrate disappeared.
- Three versions of the old chain were created (XMC, XMO, XMsomethingelse)
- Much of the displaced hashrate seemed to go to these chains.

It has been suggested that tBitmain created the ASICS, burned them in for a while (what?  6 months? lol)  And thten put them on the market.

It has been suggested that Bitmain (or some other ASIC manufacturer) created one or more of the "classic" chains to continue to be mined by ASICS.

It seems Zooko met with Jihan Wu and determined by feels that Jihan had nothing to do with the extra hashrate or the forks.

Butterfly Labs

Wonderful story, one of the first of its kind with a few others around then

Asic hardware and hardware mining companies need full transparency to determine legitmacy, unlike what you would expect in the gold market

Explains how it all works.
https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/23/6833047/bitcoin-conspiracy-theorists-vindicated-as-ftc-shuts-down-butterfly-labs



How to play the market

just play the scam (in other words all markets have a collective that can dump at any time - fiat, stocks, gold, crypto)
follow the whales, buy the dip

its a buy the dip scheme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akBdQa55b4



The bolded is not true at all, butterfly labs failed because of the monolithic structure of the chip which in turn caused a cascading effect making them non competitive. Their delays and capitol bleeding were all do to TDP, A company that has the resources to build something in the background like bitmain did, has no need of transparency and neither does intel, AMd, samsung or a host of other manufacturers.

Hah, O wait I see your problem, it's your reading comprehension. From your article, they didn't fail because of transparency at all in providing hardware. The real failure was they were unable to compete by the time they shipped.

Since i joined in this forum, it was only then that i know about some of alternate coins that is flying in colors and Monero is one of them. It almost reached 500$ mark before it went down. I speculate that when bitcoin will have an ATH this year, Monero will also have a new price high too.

I believe you are correct sir.

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June 05, 2018, 05:27:36 AM
I don't think you understand that centralizing network hash with ASICs is detrimental to network security.
I don't think you understanding anything about cryptocurrencies.

Have you heard about Bitcoin? It's the most secure crypto network, courtesy of ASICs.

It's scary that a decision so important was taken following a Reddit mob, or a secret committee of devs, with such a poor understanding of the matter.

Mining centralization hasn't made Bitcoin the most secure network, it's made it an easy target for China if they decide they want to disrupt the network--looking at hashing power in a vacuum is a pointless exercise as there are numerous factors that go into how secure a network is.

Also, the person you are addressing has forgotten more about cryptocurrencies than you know, or likely will ever know.
I agreed, he has probably forgotten a lot more than I could.

I am happy to learn that Bitcoin isn't the most secure network because you say so. You are an invaluable source of knowledge.

Bitcoin developers would make Bitcoin ASIC resistant if they could.  But they cant since Bitcoin dont fork every half year to make needed upgrades.  Sooner or latter Monero will not be ASIC resistant anymore. Lets hope that will not be so soon and lets hope  ASIC market will mature until then.
The fact that Bitcoin devs cannot fork Bitcoin to change a core feature on a whim is one reason why Monero will never compete against Bitcoin on the monetary use case.

The fact that the devs can change the POW on Monero is a fucking disgrace and strongly diminish its long term expected value. I look forward to see their next unilateral change of a core protocol feature.

No the fact that this is possible is because Monero had forks every 6 months and until that will go on will be possible.  Why that is possible, because Monero developers are not afraid of anyone to keep old fork alive as many other coins developers are.


BldSwtTrs if you like ASIC mined Monero you have it. It dont have few important upgrades but there it is. Support it and make it grow and donate or hire their developers to develop it further or at least copy/paste new Monero code there.   You can do it. But all this is sort of offcopic here then.   Dont say something is disgrace, just do it better and show the way with example.


BitcoinCash was created with disagreement on core features...
Shall I look forward on MoneroCash? Cool

Yes it was, but was not a fork by the core developers like Monero fork twice a year. They will not do it as ETH would not do it or ZCash.
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June 05, 2018, 03:26:09 AM
Since i joined in this forum, it was only then that i know about some of alternate coins that is flying in colors and Monero is one of them. It almost reached 500$ mark before it went down. I speculate that when bitcoin will have an ATH this year, Monero will also have a new price high too.

Crossing $500 mark will aim at new ATH, up to psychological resistance of $1000, I guess.  Cool
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