It does look like manipulation is happening:
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If they bet on Bitcoin to drop (short Futures) and dump a little BTC right on time, they can make the Futures a self for filling prophecy, no?
It does look like manipulation is happening:
It does look like manipulation is happening:
Yea I am worried too. The Bitcoin decline started at the end of last year when Bitcoin futures were taken in use. Futures can be used to manipulate gold, oil, silver, fiat, wheat and what ever, so why not crypto. The Futures do not bring any money to the commodity they represent, so no wonder that happens.
When the Bitcoin has declined more than the alts have been able to increase, they have lost too.
So what do you think what the Bitcoin futures have to do with the decline?
When the Bitcoin has declined more than the alts have been able to increase, they have lost too.
So what do you think what the Bitcoin futures have to do with the decline?
I don't understand the whole futures thing, they don't don't take delivery so isn't it similar to betting on a horse race but the betting on the horse race has nothing to do with the actual horse race (unless they manipulate the race via losing on purpose)
like the Circle app where you can only deposit and withdraw USD to "trade" coins that don't exist, all it does is take money/demand from the real market
Well I guess that it is. The futures take the money to them selves, futures, out of the real market, in this case Bitcoin. I think this is true since the volume of Bitcoin declines, or any real market that has futures. And this is possible because people are stupid enough to invest in futures instead of real commodities, like Bitcoin or Gold. If they did invest to the real markets, the Futures had no effect on anything since the real demand on real commodities would set the price to the real level.
The Circle app also seems to be just an other Future. It takes money out of the real market.
And why not people would not use these futures and Circle app, since I think they are much more easy to use than wallets, paper wallets, GUIs CLIs and exchanges. The stupidity of the people just bring money for the ones who offer these easy to use services, which do not have any link to real market and world.
I guess crypto world has to have some way or app to invest on real crypto, which is at least as easy to use, as to invest on these futures.
Yea I am worried too. The Bitcoin decline started at the end of last year when Bitcoin futures were taken in use. Futures can be used to manipulate gold, oil, silver, fiat, wheat and what ever, so why not crypto. The Futures do not bring any money to the commodity they represent, so no wonder that happens.
When the Bitcoin has declined more than the alts have been able to increase, they have lost too.
So what do you think what the Bitcoin futures have to do with the decline?
When the Bitcoin has declined more than the alts have been able to increase, they have lost too.
So what do you think what the Bitcoin futures have to do with the decline?
I don't understand the whole futures thing, they don't don't take delivery so isn't it similar to betting on a horse race but the betting on the horse race has nothing to do with the actual horse race (unless they manipulate the race via losing on purpose)
like the Circle app where you can only deposit and withdraw USD to "trade" coins that don't exist, all it does is take money/demand from the real market
Yea I am worried too. The Bitcoin decline started at the end of last year when Bitcoin futures were taken in use. Futures can be used to manipulate gold, oil, silver, fiat, wheat and what ever, so why not crypto. The Futures do not bring any money to the commodity they represent, so no wonder that happens.
When the Bitcoin has declined more than the alts have been able to increase, they have lost too.
So what do you think what the Bitcoin futures have to do with the decline?
When the Bitcoin has declined more than the alts have been able to increase, they have lost too.
So what do you think what the Bitcoin futures have to do with the decline?
From January till now the highs get lower and the lows as well. ( usd terms ). I wonder when we will see a reversal. To be honest, I feel a bit worried , not only for xmr but the whole cryptospace
Actually, I know this is a suggestion that is always recommended, but why not just wait it out and leave the XMR in your wallet, be patient and claim your fork coins after the dust has settled on all the possible vulnerabilities and threats? I am actually not claiming the forks for Monero but I did that with Bitcoin last year and faced no issues. Maybe you lose some money after the spike, but in fact I made more selling my Bcash long after the fork when it shot up in price later on.
With regard to Tari, I understand the details of this project have still to be finalized and speculation on it is premature. That said, what I've read so far is that Tari is to 'built on top fo Monero' which has been taken to mean that Tari will be merged mined alongside Monero. In other words, that Tari will benefit from the security that the Monero network offers (should Monero miners decide to implement it).
Question: does Tari need permission from the Monero community to do this? If Tari wasn't being led by FP would this be an issue for the Monero community? Is there any cost to Monero from merge mining Tari? Is there any benefit to Monero from merge mining Tari?
Why, in other words, should the Monero community agree to this (assuming they have a say in the matter)? I don't have a position on it, just wondering if there are opposing perspectives on the issue.
Question: does Tari need permission from the Monero community to do this? If Tari wasn't being led by FP would this be an issue for the Monero community? Is there any cost to Monero from merge mining Tari? Is there any benefit to Monero from merge mining Tari?
Why, in other words, should the Monero community agree to this (assuming they have a say in the matter)? I don't have a position on it, just wondering if there are opposing perspectives on the issue.
It seems FBI found use case for non transparent blockchains like Monero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
This guy likes "blockchain" mentions it in six times in six sentences in a row, but fails to mention "Bitcoin" LOL
Wait--you mean Bitcoin is the only blockchain and he couldn't be referring to the technology that Bitcoin uses?
No he could be referring to Bitcoin gold, Verge and the others I can't remember, "Blockchain" works great
I still think people are not interested in anonymous blockchains as we expected. That's why Monero is hanging out in these regions. When people beware of the importance of it, Monero will be much more valuable most probably.
Eh, people are not interested in any blockchain by this logic, if you refer to price action. Monero is not doing anything special, just going with the flow.
My experience of extra secret or sensitive information stuff it doesn't get entered into the core system, or it gets some how anonymised?
Why exactly would they need to put names and identities into a blockchain?
not only that if a user can be compromised then the information would be, regardless of the type of encryption.
Why exactly would they need to put names and identities into a blockchain?
not only that if a user can be compromised then the information would be, regardless of the type of encryption.
It seems FBI found use case for non transparent blockchains like Monero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
This guy likes "blockchain" mentions it in six times in six sentences in a row, but fails to mention "Bitcoin" LOL
Wait--you mean Bitcoin is the only blockchain and he couldn't be referring to the technology that Bitcoin uses?
It seems FBI found use case for non transparent blockchains like Monero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
This guy likes "blockchain" mentions it in six times in six sentences in a row, but fails to mention "Bitcoin" LOL
It seems FBI found use case for non transparent blockchains like Monero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AHHo9OXiwE&feature=youtu.be&t=40m35s
Blockchain is the best way to secure the information. I think you will see all banks to come to the blockchain. Keeping records through blockchain, because it will become the best way to do so. You cant break the blockchain, you cant change anything on the blockchain. So that bring us to last thing. You cant change anything on blockchain. To some little things that have to be worked out, like example we have many witness programs. So if we know who the person is and we cant change who the person is, then that become the jeopardy to that witness. So the privacy issue comes into play about. Those are the things that has to be tweaked out.
I checked bitcoin gold after the doublespend. No noticeable effect on the price what so ever... What is this world that I live in?
It has not sunk in yet. Wait 'till it's ETC, or BCH.
At this price, I'm wondering if anything is priced in. Further up the coinmarketcap list we see EOS. They have no working product yet, and a market cap 4X that of Monero, all based on a hope and a prayer.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
These other projects have bigger bullshit. That has never been Monero.
I mean Darkcoin lies spouting for example. Its not our way. We want people to naturally arrive at monero, maybe its a little naive?
Anyway so be it, we are here and we are honourable.
If the shit eventually goes down we might be glad of this virtue.
To be honest the next big BTC land grab is underway IMO. May our "virtue" protect us via hashpower.
Chain attacks.
Chains with low enough hashpower (or centralized enough hashpower) which can be 51% attacked will be shorted and attacked. BIG money to be made here... and it is already happening. Even with all the extra RingCTs verge has it fell!
In the end this may be one of the crypto universe's most difficult times. We could see some big names get hit... and Joe "CNBC" Schmoe is not going to know what is safe once he realizes it's happening.
I checked bitcoin gold after the doublespend. No noticeable effect on the price what so ever... What is this world that I live in?
At this price, I'm wondering if anything is priced in. Further up the coinmarketcap list we see EOS. They have no working product yet, and a market cap 4X that of Monero, all based on a hope and a prayer.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
These other projects have bigger bullshit. That has never been Monero.
I mean Darkcoin lies spouting for example. Its not our way. We want people to naturally arrive at monero, maybe its a little naive?
Anyway so be it, we are here and we are honourable.
If the shit eventually goes down we might be glad of this virtue.
To be honest the next big BTC land grab is underway IMO. May our "virtue" protect us via hashpower.
Chain attacks.
Chains with low enough hashpower (or centralized enough hashpower) which can be 51% attacked will be shorted and attacked. BIG money to be made here... and it is already happening. Even with all the extra RingCTs verge has it fell!
In the end this may be one of the crypto universe's most difficult times. We could see some big names get hit... and Joe "CNBC" Schmoe is not going to know what is safe once he realizes it's happening.
At this price, I'm wondering if anything is priced in. Further up the coinmarketcap list we see EOS. They have no working product yet, and a market cap 4X that of Monero, all based on a hope and a prayer.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
These other projects have bigger bullshit. That has never been Monero.
I mean Darkcoin lies spouting for example. Its not our way. We want people to naturally arrive at monero, maybe its a little naive?
Anyway so be it, we are here and we are honourable.
If the shit eventually goes down we might be glad of this virtue.
At this price, I'm wondering if anything is priced in. Further up the coinmarketcap list we see EOS. They have no working product yet, and a market cap 4X that of Monero, all based on a hope and a prayer.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
That does chap my ass as well.
I do suppose Ledger support is priced in... BUT I can report I have an operational wallet with a wee little XMR in it working ON MAINNET all protected by my Nano S!!!
It's working!
Big day!
At this price, I'm wondering if anything is priced in. Further up the coinmarketcap list we see EOS. They have no working product yet, and a market cap 4X that of Monero, all based on a hope and a prayer.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
It seems like there's still froth in the market, but in all the wrong places.
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