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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 282. (Read 3314316 times)

hero member
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May 21, 2018, 03:38:05 PM

In the long term i think regulators DON'T want to ban monero , because with exchanges they atleast have a grip on KYC/AML .... if monero is to become the defacto dark-market currency banning it would have the opposite effect that they wanted ... people will trade monero in the dark and they would not have a clue about KYC/AML at all about all of the floating monero... so better to have SOME information on XMR users than none i would say

Very well said.  I have been wondering if this point is just lost on folks.  Evidently not.

It's sort of a win/win for Monero demonstrating a bit of it's anti-fragility as a private payment system.



Yeah also people trading illegal stuff make mistakes and with exchanges this would give the authorities atleast a trail that they could follow or some sort of evidence, eventhough they could never proof what exactly got traded for what XMR

^  And what advantage would the regulators get from banning XMR tho...?  It doesn't automatically kill the demand for private transactions.  If anything, I think a 'ban' could even make it more in demand granting that crypto users, both old and new, are educated enough to know what privacy coin is the best.

None, that's the point, xmr would probably lose a lot of price first off, but you can not kill it and it will still function as intended and live one
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
May 21, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Shit, closed my ETH short and bought last night, one day too early again! Bah

Anyone who shorts ETH has balls of steel and my respect.

Don't tell him has has balls of steel!  He will sell them at a pawn shop and lose all that money getting it all in on the turn with a set of aces!

Hahahaa, you guys kill me! cause you know me too well. Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3766
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
May 21, 2018, 12:52:48 PM
Shit, closed my ETH short and bought last night, one day too early again! Bah

Anyone who shorts ETH has balls of steel and my respect.

Don't tell him has has balls of steel!  He will sell them at a pawn shop and lose all that money getting it all in on the turn with a set of aces!
newbie
Activity: 238
Merit: 0
May 21, 2018, 12:51:45 PM
Nothing special Monero did not like, I keep about 3% of the total budget in this coin, especially do not hope for a big profit.
legendary
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May 21, 2018, 12:30:22 PM
Shit, closed my ETH short and bought last night, one day too early again! Bah

Anyone who shorts ETH has balls of steel and my respect.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
May 21, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Shit, closed my ETH short and bought last night, one day too early again! Bah
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
May 21, 2018, 09:26:11 AM
^  And what advantage would the regulators get from banning XMR tho...?  It doesn't automatically kill the demand for private transactions.  If anything, I think a 'ban' could even make it more in demand granting that crypto users, both old and new, are educated enough to know what privacy coin is the best.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
May 21, 2018, 09:13:16 AM

In the long term i think regulators DON'T want to ban monero , because with exchanges they atleast have a grip on KYC/AML .... if monero is to become the defacto dark-market currency banning it would have the opposite effect that they wanted ... people will trade monero in the dark and they would not have a clue about KYC/AML at all about all of the floating monero... so better to have SOME information on XMR users than none i would say

Very well said.  I have been wondering if this point is just lost on folks.  Evidently not.

It's sort of a win/win for Monero demonstrating a bit of it's anti-fragility as a private payment system.

full member
Activity: 254
Merit: 109
May 21, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
Since I often enjoy seeing these here

https://monerobase.com/wiki/DevMeeting_2018-05-20

  • Stoffu has added automatic popping of bad version blocks
  • rbrunner is working on an easier MultiSig implementation
  • BulletProof audits are still underway

Next meeting June 3rd, 2018
hero member
Activity: 768
Merit: 505
May 21, 2018, 07:43:06 AM
Is there any way to know the volume of transactions of Monero that is not going through the exchanges? I imagine that Monero is at least among the top 4 coins that are most commonly used. Not just projects that live from pump and dump on exchanges.

It is impossible to know. Ring Confidential Transactions that will be hopefully replaced with Bulletproofs prevents anyone to see amounts that are transacted.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3AHp9KgTkQ



If Coincheck is a real exchange why is it not listed on Coinmarketcap?, they state on their front page they were/are the "The Leading Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Exchange in Asia" and "No.1 Bitcoin trade volume in Japan!"
Plus its closed for registration and the price of BTC is not even updated on their frontpage, looks fake to me


They might disable sending informations to  coinmarketcap  for security. They were listed there and sort of still are: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coincheck/

Guys you need to understand that $500 milion robberies are rare in worlds history.   It does not matter if value of coins decreased by now. Police is listing value as it was on end of January.   I think so far biggest robbery is still Saddam Hussein robbery of  Central bank of Iraq for $1 billion in 2003. So you can imagine the scale of Coincheck hack and how nervous must be that official, that is responsible for safety of Japanese institutions that are keeping peoples wealth. Specially after Mt.Gox

In the long term i think regulators DON'T want to ban monero , because with exchanges they atleast have a grip on KYC/AML .... if monero is to become the defacto dark-market currency banning it would have the opposite effect that they wanted ... people will trade monero in the dark and they would not have a clue about KYC/AML at all about all of the floating monero... so better to have SOME information on XMR users than none i would say
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1288
May 21, 2018, 06:44:37 AM
The MyMonero Desktop app finally near release. RC3 available for download. It looks great, by the way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8kumc0/mymonero_desktop_app_release_candidate_available/


And what about ledger wallet... Anyone has any fresh updates?

Still using monerujo wallet on android, and it's been very nice and stable but I would prefer to use ledger wallet (I bought it because of Monero support anyway).

Lets hope it will happen in June.  Ledger needs that monero update to 0.12.1.  So for last month and a bit was not much up to them. Lets hope that after 0.12.1 will be here they will react fast and do whatever they will still need to do and that I will be right about June.
member
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May 21, 2018, 06:25:50 AM
The altcoin’s developers successfully completed the transfer to version 7 of Monero.The contentious hard fork comes as the Monero community has gained  several forks, some ostensibly aiming to preserve the ASIC-compatible chain and others promising various other improvements and features.
full member
Activity: 406
Merit: 105
Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
May 21, 2018, 06:06:01 AM
The MyMonero Desktop app finally near release. RC3 available for download. It looks great, by the way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8kumc0/mymonero_desktop_app_release_candidate_available/


A web alternative for a desktop app with a desktop app, makes sense.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
May 21, 2018, 05:06:35 AM
The MyMonero Desktop app finally near release. RC3 available for download. It looks great, by the way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8kumc0/mymonero_desktop_app_release_candidate_available/


And what about ledger wallet... Anyone has any fresh updates?

Still using monerujo wallet on android, and it's been very nice and stable but I would prefer to use ledger wallet (I bought it because of Monero support anyway).
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1288
May 20, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
Is there any way to know the volume of transactions of Monero that is not going through the exchanges? I imagine that Monero is at least among the top 4 coins that are most commonly used. Not just projects that live from pump and dump on exchanges.

It is impossible to know. Ring Confidential Transactions that will be hopefully replaced with Bulletproofs prevents anyone to see amounts that are transacted.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3AHp9KgTkQ



If Coincheck is a real exchange why is it not listed on Coinmarketcap?, they state on their front page they were/are the "The Leading Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Exchange in Asia" and "No.1 Bitcoin trade volume in Japan!"
Plus its closed for registration and the price of BTC is not even updated on their frontpage, looks fake to me


They might disable sending informations to  coinmarketcap  for security. They were listed there and sort of still are: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coincheck/

Guys you need to understand that $500 milion robberies are rare in worlds history.   It does not matter if value of coins decreased by now. Police is listing value as it was on end of January.   I think so far biggest robbery is still Saddam Hussein robbery of  Central bank of Iraq for $1 billion in 2003. So you can imagine the scale of Coincheck hack and how nervous must be that official, that is responsible for safety of Japanese institutions that are keeping peoples wealth. Specially after Mt.Gox
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 266
May 20, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

If Coincheck is a real exchange why is it not listed on Coinmarketcap?, they state on their front page they were/are the "The Leading Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Exchange in Asia" and "No.1 Bitcoin trade volume in Japan!"
Plus its closed for registration and the price of BTC is not even updated on their frontpage, looks fake to me
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 252
May 20, 2018, 03:49:07 PM
The MyMonero Desktop app finally near release. RC3 available for download. It looks great, by the way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8kumc0/mymonero_desktop_app_release_candidate_available/
legendary
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Merit: 2053
Free spirit
May 20, 2018, 09:52:25 AM
Thanks you got your stupid sig post count up 1

2 bot/sig posts in a row  Roll Eyes


Unfortunately govermoent is against bots and they are going to you

legendary
Activity: 1085
Merit: 1000
ALT Add: APfc4bykKHxYSVkvzsLdQvmiTXvTgMiCRM
May 20, 2018, 09:09:25 AM
government are now taking steps to regulate anon cryptocurrencies as they are more potential for laundering and crime related issues. For such, it will bring harm to all crypto but most affected are coins like XMR.
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