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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 448. (Read 3313670 times)

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December 06, 2017, 04:01:37 PM
It seems very unreasonable for Xmr to stay behind Dash. It will reach high price levels in late XMR. Robust projects will continue to attract investment. As people get to know the crypto market, Xmr will invest in tokens.
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 03:56:55 PM
What kind of retarded shit is "tor integration" like its some sort of feature, everything and anything that does tcp/ip can use tor for fuck's sake.

Other coins merely adopted Tor, xspec was born into Tor. The whole chart is bullshit anyway. Monero has 183B coins? Zcash uses mixing? Whoever posted this shit, your chart and your coin are bad and you should feel bad.
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
December 06, 2017, 03:50:00 PM
What kind of retarded shit is "tor integration" like its some sort of feature, everything and anything that does tcp/ip can use tor for fuck's sake.
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 03:45:17 PM

You know shit is getting real when the Monero Reddit server says it can not serve your request because it is "too busy" at the moment.

This happens quite often and got nothing to do with monero though :p

For some reason I was under the impression that subreddits ran on their own servers not a giant Reddit server.

No, Reddit is run only on Reddit servers. The code is mostly open source, so people can start their own alternative forum (see voat), but on Reddit domain it's all company servers.
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 02:40:33 PM

You know shit is getting real when the Monero Reddit server says it can not serve your request because it is "too busy" at the moment.

This happens quite often and got nothing to do with monero though :p

For some reason I was under the impression that subreddits ran on their own servers not a giant Reddit server.
hero member
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December 06, 2017, 02:35:53 PM

You know shit is getting real when the Monero Reddit server says it can not serve your request because it is "too busy" at the moment.

This happens quite often and got nothing to do with monero though :p
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 02:27:22 PM
It looks like price is settling around 0.0214 btc... Volume is dropping a little as well ( on poloniex ). Does this mean the run up is over  ( for now ) ?
I rather hope it is a long stable rise, XMR is one of my favourite coins and have huge potential.
More and more investors notice it.
I really couldn't understand the reason behind monero's success. I was targeting $200 for monero and I already sold my holdings before we get there and after all, it reached and passed $300. This is big.
The difference is that monero actually fill a market need. In the world of private fungible crypto currencies monero is the bitcoin. And in the world of crypto currencies what monero represents is similarly, if not more, important than bitcoin it's self. Don't think of this project the same way that you do the 1000 projects out there that are like "hey look at our neat gimmick!". Plenty of money to be made trading them around to be sure but don't confuse this with them. If you are good at making money trading around the gimmick coins than what I would do is think of monero as a good place to take some of your profit from those activities.
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December 06, 2017, 02:23:56 PM
I had a Polo withdrawal sit all  night long in pending status. tried 4 more times since, nothing. BTC withdraws just fine. Not making me happy.  Angry

Yeah, I've been withdrawing everyday for a while at my limit and no problems. Problems started about 2 days ago.
I'm thinking I'll need to convert to BTC and Shapeshift once its out. It's then abou short term timing. Grrrrr


Ouch, won't you lose XMR doing that? Well look at this way - we are not alone, so that's probably a good sign. Hopefully they fix the hotwallet asap, this is getting silly.  Tongue

Fiat Price appreciation is killing me. I started withdrawing @ $80 and now $268. My fiat balance is still more than when I started withdrawing.  Grin

Removing some of the 3rd party risk may be worth the couple of % cost of withdrawing with BTC.
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December 06, 2017, 02:13:25 PM
I won't believe this ramp is over until Korean and Japanese buying declines.  But... At these prices it takes 1.12 mmUSD to soak up the total daily mining output, and I don't see any reason for miners to retain returns, except speculation - and miners and speculators are almost non-overlapping sets at these price/difficulty ratios.  The more profitable mining becomes relative to other coins, the more mercenary and short-sighted the marginal miner becomes.  

I think if net flows from East Asia drop below roughly 1.5 mmUSD/diem, then we will top out, and draw down as first levered longs, then overextended broke-ass short-sighted dumb money get shaken out.  It usually drops to near the level of the preceeding ATH - Nov 11th, which is a 50% retracement from our current price - before smart money comes in and puts a floor under the price.  Consolidation, catalyst, creep, climb, and crash.  Rinse, repeat.  As in Bitcoin, so in Monero...until you start hearing about Monero every day on CNBC.  You probably want to sell a substantial fraction at that point.  

Anyhow, I have no easy way to measure Asian money flows right now, so I won't be calling this one.  


why drop out at that point? long-term, I see it as a strong hedge against the fiat-denominated portion of my portfolio.
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
I had a Polo withdrawal sit all  night long in pending status. tried 4 more times since, nothing. BTC withdraws just fine. Not making me happy.  Angry

Yeah, I've been withdrawing everyday for a while at my limit and no problems. Problems started about 2 days ago.
I'm thinking I'll need to convert to BTC and Shapeshift once its out. It's then abou short term timing. Grrrrr


Ouch, won't you lose XMR doing that? Well look at this way - we are not alone, so that's probably a good sign. Hopefully they fix the hotwallet asap, this is getting silly.  Tongue
newbie
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December 06, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
I had a Polo withdrawal sit all  night long in pending status. tried 4 more times since, nothing. BTC withdraws just fine. Not making me happy.  Angry

Yeah, I've been withdrawing everyday for a while at my limit and no problems. Problems started about 2 days ago.
I'm thinking I'll need to convert to BTC and Shapeshift once its out. It's then abou short term timing. Grrrrr


 
full member
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December 06, 2017, 01:49:49 PM
Privacy coins will rise a lot, and XMR hasn't move much since January basically, since it was still trading in the 0.16 range for a long time, now we see some movement in the 0.22 area finally.
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 01:41:51 PM
I had a Polo withdrawal sit all  night long in pending status. tried 4 more times since, nothing. BTC withdraws just fine. Not making me happy.  Angry
newbie
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December 06, 2017, 01:22:41 PM
So who really knows what this latest price spike is attributed too?

We have the following:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2017/12/05/cryptocurrency-monero-to-be-accepted-by-45-musicians-such-as-mariah-carey-g-eazy-sia-for-holidays/#471e54dd7885
http://jeffq.com/blog/on-the-linkability-of-zcash-transactions/
or
Bullet Proofs and Scalabilty
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7hbfal/20171203_monero_dev_meeting_summary_and_logs/

We have user growth, no real competitors and technical fundamentals.  Grin

What I do know is that the networking effect is kicking in and we are now in the same user growth phase as both Bitcoin and Ethereum during the Reddit 30K to 80K subscriber phase.

http://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero
http://redditmetrics.com/r/Bitcoin
http://redditmetrics.com/r/Ethereum

Price appreciation has been around 800% in this phase in a very short time frame:
Bitcoin 8 Months
Ether 4 Months

I'm predicting a $1K price in a very short period. Probably the end of March when we historically have our highs. I'm guessing we will have a protracted pullback after that.

For the first time in 4 years, I'm having problems withdrawing XMR from Polo. Same as Ether when it took off!

Good times ahead!  Grin



legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
December 06, 2017, 12:35:48 PM
I won't believe this ramp is over until Korean and Japanese buying declines.  But... At these prices it takes 1.12 mmUSD to soak up the total daily mining output, and I don't see any reason for miners to retain returns, except speculation - and miners and speculators are almost non-overlapping sets at these price/difficulty ratios.  The more profitable mining becomes relative to other coins, the more mercenary and short-sighted the marginal miner becomes.  

I think if net flows from East Asia drop below roughly 1.5 mmUSD/diem, then we will top out, and draw down as first levered longs, then overextended broke-ass short-sighted dumb money get shaken out.  It usually drops to near the level of the preceeding ATH - Nov 11th, which is a 50% retracement from our current price - before smart money comes in and puts a floor under the price.  Consolidation, catalyst, creep, climb, and crash.  Rinse, repeat.  As in Bitcoin, so in Monero...until you start hearing about Monero every day on CNBC.  You probably want to sell a substantial fraction at that point.  

Anyhow, I have no easy way to measure Asian money flows right now, so I won't be calling this one.  


legendary
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December 06, 2017, 12:02:24 PM
It looks like price is settling around 0.0214 btc... Volume is dropping a little as well ( on poloniex ). Does this mean the run up is over  ( for now ) ?

I rather hope it is a long stable rise, XMR is one of my favourite coins and have huge potential.

More and more investors notice it.

I really couldn't understand the reason behind monero's success. I was targeting $200 for monero and I already sold my holdings before we get there and after all, it reached and passed $300. This is big.
Same here, I sold just before $200 to buy back in the dip I expected, but then it shot straight on to $300.. Angry

You should monitor more. This project took $1 million if i am not mistaken. Everyone was expecting it before Christmas. and sort for Globee was sponsor of some meeting tomorrow and on their Twitter they announced they have a big news. so all that monitored Monero should know.

On general we see that development itself dont drive price up. But I guess helps it stay up. What drives price up are wider adoption and marketing. What Bithumb did and now Project Coral Reef.    My point is that those that expect that price of Monero will go x3 because of HW and multisig might be disappointed. But we all know that that is more important then Project Coral Reef or listing on Bithumb.


We had $650 millions of volume what is way more then in past but. I am sure in BTC is not that much more then old biggest volumes. We need to understand that BTC is now almost 20 times more then a year ago.  and at least on Poloniex price was hitting 0.0225 but just could not break over it.
legendary
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December 06, 2017, 11:39:27 AM
It looks like price is settling around 0.0214 btc... Volume is dropping a little as well ( on poloniex ). Does this mean the run up is over  ( for now ) ?

I rather hope it is a long stable rise, XMR is one of my favourite coins and have huge potential.

More and more investors notice it.

I really couldn't understand the reason behind monero's success. I was targeting $200 for monero and I already sold my holdings before we get there and after all, it reached and passed $300. This is big.
Same here, I sold just before $200 to buy back in the dip I expected, but then it shot straight on to $300.. Angry
Price is all over the place today - you may be lucky enough to get your dip again. The market can't make its mind up...
legendary
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Free spirit
December 06, 2017, 11:33:05 AM
Sounds like you fell for the wannawank bs

Listen to those that know best. And look at the emissions.

= no brainer
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December 06, 2017, 11:18:20 AM
It looks like price is settling around 0.0214 btc... Volume is dropping a little as well ( on poloniex ). Does this mean the run up is over  ( for now ) ?

I rather hope it is a long stable rise, XMR is one of my favourite coins and have huge potential.

More and more investors notice it.

I really couldn't understand the reason behind monero's success. I was targeting $200 for monero and I already sold my holdings before we get there and after all, it reached and passed $300. This is big.
Same here, I sold just before $200 to buy back in the dip I expected, but then it shot straight on to $300.. Angry
sr. member
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December 06, 2017, 10:35:58 AM
It looks like price is settling around 0.0214 btc... Volume is dropping a little as well ( on poloniex ). Does this mean the run up is over  ( for now ) ?

I rather hope it is a long stable rise, XMR is one of my favourite coins and have huge potential.

More and more investors notice it.

I really couldn't understand the reason behind monero's success. I was targeting $200 for monero and I already sold my holdings before we get there and after all, it reached and passed $300. This is big.
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