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legendary
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January 11, 2021, 05:04:10 AM
^Finally a bit of new year cheer for us. Would prefer to think of this as a long delayed return to logical market growth, but I suppose Bitcoin's current trajectory has some impact. Let's hope the scalded cat lands on the hot tin roof and scatters on up higher;)
legendary
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January 10, 2021, 08:22:06 PM
 
 Coming out of the hole like a scalded cat...

Check out the daily volume and candle height compared to the last 12 & 24 months  Shocked
log chart, but still...




legendary
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January 10, 2021, 06:27:22 PM
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what is the genesis of your lower line?
legendary
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January 10, 2021, 05:02:37 PM
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legendary
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January 10, 2021, 04:52:57 PM
I am very eager-minded towards atomic swaps, but how is Monero solving the issue to swap for example for BTC if you have to be on chain in the same SHA256 environment as the swapable coin? If you have to trust another p2p exchange, as for example bisq, you have no real advantage. So how is Monero trying to solve that?
Atomic swaps will be completely trustless, what you call "p2p exchange like bisq" will only help buyers and sellers find each other and agree on the price.

Exactly, and that is why i am asking  Wink

So it seems they will work like BitTorrent.  There is a tracker basically with offers, and then you can initiate a trade directly on the two chains.  The tracker is not absolutely NEEDED.  People could develop decentralized ways to oracle the offers... I would imagine the trade itself will be a protocol, for which more than one client can be developed.  Similar to the way lightning works.
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January 10, 2021, 04:09:09 PM
I am very eager-minded towards atomic swaps, but how is Monero solving the issue to swap for example for BTC if you have to be on chain in the same SHA256 environment as the swapable coin? If you have to trust another p2p exchange, as for example bisq, you have no real advantage. So how is Monero trying to solve that?
Atomic swaps will be completely trustless, what you call "p2p exchange like bisq" will only help buyers and sellers find each other and agree on the price.

Exactly, and that is why i am asking  Wink
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January 10, 2021, 04:08:12 PM
Hey, you may have to spark up the old exchange software again! Cheesy
Haha, I hope not Cheesy Regulations have taken all the fun out of it. The only way forward is to completely decentralize trading on permissionless, unstoppable exchanges. I believe centralized exchanges will take a big hit in the coming years as we transcend them with decentralized finance. The old broken financial system is pushing us out, and they will come to regret that. Now atomic swaps are being worked on, and there are experiments with wrapped xmr. Eventually wrapped xmr will be made trustless and allow unregulated, KYC-less trading with massive volumes on services such as uniswap. That will be very exciting.


I am very eager-minded towards atomic swaps, but how is Monero solving the issue to swap for example for BTC if you have to be on chain in the same SHA256 environment as the swapable coin? If you have to trust another p2p exchange, as for example bisq, you have no real advantage. So how is Monero trying to solve that?

This is a question for the main thread.

From a technical perspective you are propably right, in terms of value gain because of this technical advantage i think it is also well place here
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January 10, 2021, 02:15:50 PM
i think xmr hadnt start to pump yet. moneroe can see its ath value 300 dollars in 2018.
now it s only 172 which is half of its ath.
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January 10, 2021, 12:18:13 PM
I am very eager-minded towards atomic swaps, but how is Monero solving the issue to swap for example for BTC if you have to be on chain in the same SHA256 environment as the swapable coin? If you have to trust another p2p exchange, as for example bisq, you have no real advantage. So how is Monero trying to solve that?
Atomic swaps will be completely trustless, what you call "p2p exchange like bisq" will only help buyers and sellers find each other and agree on the price.
legendary
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January 10, 2021, 11:44:28 AM
Hey, you may have to spark up the old exchange software again! Cheesy
Haha, I hope not Cheesy Regulations have taken all the fun out of it. The only way forward is to completely decentralize trading on permissionless, unstoppable exchanges. I believe centralized exchanges will take a big hit in the coming years as we transcend them with decentralized finance. The old broken financial system is pushing us out, and they will come to regret that. Now atomic swaps are being worked on, and there are experiments with wrapped xmr. Eventually wrapped xmr will be made trustless and allow unregulated, KYC-less trading with massive volumes on services such as uniswap. That will be very exciting.


I am very eager-minded towards atomic swaps, but how is Monero solving the issue to swap for example for BTC if you have to be on chain in the same SHA256 environment as the swapable coin? If you have to trust another p2p exchange, as for example bisq, you have no real advantage. So how is Monero trying to solve that?

This is a question for the main thread.
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January 10, 2021, 05:44:38 AM
Hey, you may have to spark up the old exchange software again! Cheesy
Haha, I hope not Cheesy Regulations have taken all the fun out of it. The only way forward is to completely decentralize trading on permissionless, unstoppable exchanges. I believe centralized exchanges will take a big hit in the coming years as we transcend them with decentralized finance. The old broken financial system is pushing us out, and they will come to regret that. Now atomic swaps are being worked on, and there are experiments with wrapped xmr. Eventually wrapped xmr will be made trustless and allow unregulated, KYC-less trading with massive volumes on services such as uniswap. That will be very exciting.


I am very eager-minded towards atomic swaps, but how is Monero solving the issue to swap for example for BTC if you have to be on chain in the same SHA256 environment as the swapable coin? If you have to trust another p2p exchange, as for example bisq, you have no real advantage. So how is Monero trying to solve that?
legendary
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January 09, 2021, 07:14:35 PM
Hey, you may have to spark up the old exchange software again! Cheesy
Haha, I hope not Cheesy Regulations have taken all the fun out of it. The only way forward is to completely decentralize trading on permissionless, unstoppable exchanges. I believe centralized exchanges will take a big hit in the coming years as we transcend them with decentralized finance. The old broken financial system is pushing us out, and they will come to regret that. Now atomic swaps are being worked on, and there are experiments with wrapped xmr. Eventually wrapped xmr will be made trustless and allow unregulated, KYC-less trading with massive volumes on services such as uniswap. That will be very exciting.

legendary
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January 09, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Starting to build a margin position here. From 0.0035 to 0.007 is 2x your BTC. It's inconceivable that this won't happen, and it will likely happen in Q1. Even if we only recover to 0.0053 that's 50% return. XMR has been going down almost consecutively since mid December with no recovery in sight. There's no fundamental reason that I can see for this complete wreckage. We're back to 2016 levels. Before the alphabay pump when XMR struggled to break out past 0.0042. Not that other altcoins are doing great, but for XMR this is the kind of blood in the street and full on capitulation that's perfect for entry. I can't think of any better purchase than monero at the moment. Not a big fan of margin, but just can't help it at these levels.

STRONG BUY



Hey, you may have to spark up the old exchange software again! Cheesy
legendary
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January 09, 2021, 02:26:19 PM
I suppose I am just mad because I really have all I want in my positions in both BTC and XMR.  I am pretty much already all in, unless I sold my house.

But XMR should be ~ $300 US now.  Conservatively.  And XMRBTC should be in the 7 range at least.
There was no hesitate that XMR will follow the BTC trend as like as ETH. And this was not happen only for the bittrex delisting news. Same also happened with some other privacy coins.
Yes, it's sure that this news has helped to fall down the price of XMR but this will back again on it's position today or tomorrow, And the main lose will be bittrex will lose huge user after this delisting.
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January 09, 2021, 01:15:23 PM
I suppose I am just mad because I really have all I want in my positions in both BTC and XMR.  I am pretty much already all in, unless I sold my house.

But XMR should be ~ $300 US now.  Conservatively.  And XMRBTC should be in the 7 range at least.

F&*$ing Bittrex.  Heh.

I am glad for those of you who want to load up a little.  But damn.

Unless there is something fundamentally that is super messed up Monero is ridiculously oversold.

Wait until the people get their profits from BTC, then we will rock again  Grin
legendary
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January 09, 2021, 12:09:38 PM
I suppose I am just mad because I really have all I want in my positions in both BTC and XMR.  I am pretty much already all in, unless I sold my house.

But XMR should be ~ $300 US now.  Conservatively.  And XMRBTC should be in the 7 range at least.

F&*$ing Bittrex.  Heh.

I am glad for those of you who want to load up a little.  But damn.

Unless there is something fundamentally that is super messed up Monero is ridiculously oversold.
hero member
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January 08, 2021, 11:42:10 AM
Starting to build a margin position here. From 0.0035 to 0.007 is 2x your BTC. It's inconceivable that this won't happen, and it will likely happen in Q1. Even if we only recover to 0.0053 that's 50% return. XMR has been going down almost consecutively since mid December with no recovery in sight. There's no fundamental reason that I can see for this complete wreckage. We're back to 2016 levels. Before the alphabay pump when XMR struggled to break out past 0.0042. Not that other altcoins are doing great, but for XMR this is the kind of blood in the street and full on capitulation that's perfect for entry. I can't think of any better purchase than monero at the moment. Not a big fan of margin, but just can't help it at these levels.

STRONG BUY



I told myself a while back that anything below .01 is a strong buy... this is buy one get two free kinda prices Tongue

And yes, perfect time for people who missed out in 2015/2016 to hop on board again for the kinda “mad gains” people know and love...

Let Elon keep shilling his Dodge, I’ll keep stacking neroj.
hero member
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January 08, 2021, 10:23:13 AM
XMR looks like it's crashing and burning versus BTC, but has been holding steady against the dollar.  So the apparent crashing a burning of XMR is really just a function of the madly mooning btc market.  Makes me think it behooves to wait until this btc bull runs out of steam before aping into XMR.
legendary
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January 08, 2021, 08:36:43 AM
Yes I agree with you.

Its hard to even believe these levels.

Maybe we have gone full fanboi! I am continually disbeliefing. lol

Dug in again for the winter.





legendary
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January 08, 2021, 08:22:08 AM
Starting to build a margin position here. From 0.0035 to 0.007 is 2x your BTC. It's inconceivable that this won't happen, and it will likely happen in Q1. Even if we only recover to 0.0053 that's 50% return. XMR has been going down almost consecutively since mid December with no recovery in sight. There's no fundamental reason that I can see for this complete wreckage. We're back to 2016 levels. Before the alphabay pump when XMR struggled to break out past 0.0042. Not that other altcoins are doing great, but for XMR this is the kind of blood in the street and full on capitulation that's perfect for entry. I can't think of any better purchase than monero at the moment. Not a big fan of margin, but just can't help it at these levels.

STRONG BUY

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