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legendary
Activity: 1596
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Sine secretum non libertas
April 01, 2017, 01:01:05 AM


Thank you for that.  It is usefully informative.  It would be even (and much) better with scale alignment.

To me it seems folly to analyze XMR denominated in BTC, although I was myself subject to this folly until recently.  The fundamentals are much more easily recognized using gold or any major fiat currency - I tend to use USD - as numeraire.

XMRUSD is pretty stable at $20, so in my (1% of XMR holdings) trading position, at present, I buy below 19 and sell above 21.  

You might recall that I anticipated recent levels on this approximate time scale last summer, by using Fisher's quantity theory, as calibrated by Alphabay volume estimators.  I have not done any further analysis yet, so I can't presently make any principled quantitative predictions.  As time permits and data allows I may do so soon.  My intuition is that $25 will become strong support by June.  The upside asymmetry is growing rapidly due to exogenous risk factors, but support levels should continue to be determined by economic use in dark net markets during the near future.  As they grow, so will XMR's utility value.

Meanwhile, some qualitative logic guides me, none of it new, and all of it supported by the evidence of the past few months, since my previous prediction:

1. Masternode (dash, pivx, crown) anonymity is (1) honeypot technology, and (2) a scheme for bleeding the economy to death by rents.  No such system can form a stable economy.  Any price runs are bubbles.  While shorting is supremely risky, and requires a strong and steady hand, I find it emotionally gratifying and financially lucrative.  I actually had a masternode for a while, but soon repented and sold it because I could not stomach making gains by deceit and oppression.  (I have made charitable donations in excess of those gains as a sop to my bruised conscience.)

2. Transparent blockchains expose their users to extortion and robbery.  Consequently they involve unwarranted risk, and can not persist in their moneyness.

3. App coins are generally a deceitful way to fund an Enterprise.  "Turing completeness" is ludicrous snake oil and there is still no compelling use for "gas", after years of waiting.  It is all dot-com hopium smoke.

4. I have long predicted the beginnings of the demise of the debt-based fiat currency system to become perceptible in 2017q4.  I will soon be proven either correct or incorrect, in the sense of being early, but even if my point-estimate proves over-eager, the underlying demographic deflationary implosion, resource exhaustion, systematic energy bleed, and exponential inflationary debt- (and inevitable supply-) explosion will reach a climax when the Boomer retirement peak arrives around 2024.  USD lost most of its value since 1971 (when Nixon broke the tie to gold).  It will lose an even larger proportion, and likely in fact ALL of it's value in excess of hard reserves times some yet-unmeasurable confidence*utility multiplier, on the 2024 time scale.  Crypto and hard assets are the place to be, and money is only beginning to realize this.  Those ahead of this curve will enjoy the fruits of their foresight during the next 7-10 years - if they can stay alive that long.

By a process of elimination I recommend to my friends and family an allocation of 20% xmr, 30% precious metals and/or cultural artifacts, 20% agricultural real estate (Chile being the top of my list), 10% long equities, 10% East Asia/Pacific bonds, and 10% strategic shorts (sovereign bonds, financial equities esp.) for long term money.  

The BTC fork will imply substantial volatility, yes, but that will end soon enough.  Underlying global systemic instabilities, however, will persist, compound, indeed explode, with much greater impact, albeit on a longer time-scale.  I think speculation time is rapidly coming to a close.  It is time for young and old, rich and poor alike to batten down the hatches and shelter from the coming multi-generational storm.  Given the extreme dislocations of financial metrics from the norms of millennia past which now prevail, this one may be the single greatest world-historical financial event since the Industrial Revolution, or the Black Death. There will be winners and losers.


legendary
Activity: 2282
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Monero Core Team
March 31, 2017, 10:57:10 PM
OK it seems people are uninterested in the Markka (CK) pump.

Is there any way I can help you to make it possible to short it?

Is registering to Crypto Kingdom (takes about 2 minutes) a too big difficulty if you want to make a killing (not!) shorting Markka (it has pumped +1000% in 5 weeks now)?

Why is CK going off the XMR standard?  Doesn't that make Markka fiat, like WoW Gold?

If Eulora can keep using their BTC-based economy, why can't CK stay on XMR?

The main reason that Crypto Kingdom had to go off the XMR standard is that XMR is hard currency. By August of 2016 Crypto Kingdom had built a very large XMR denominated debt in the form of Consul Bonds (CON). This XMR denominated debt was the result of paying for among other things the development of the game. The equity, CK gold was, fixed effectively leaving only XMR denominated debt as the way to raise capital for development and improvement of the game. What had to occur and occurred was a conversion of the XMR denominated debt into equity since it was completely unsustainable. This was a accomplished by converting CON (XMR debt) into CK together with the voting / equity component of the old CK gold also into CK. The latest move is to use CK as the in game currency. The best analogy I could think of would be World of Warcraft or Second Life but where stock in Blizzard Entertainment, instead of WoW gold, or stock in Linden Labs, instead of Linden Dollars, was used as the in game currency.  This makes CK actually very unique since equity in the game itself is used as the in game currency.

My take is that the "CK pump" is to a large degree due to freeing Crypto - Kingdom from its XMR denominated debt albatross. In this way Crypto Kingdom would not be impacted by a crash in DASH/XMR which would likely wipe out a holder of XMR denominated debt.

Edit:  DASH/XMR https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
March 31, 2017, 10:42:43 PM
iCEBREAKER you are a DASH master today!

Bahahahaha. Randomization seemingly has a sense of humour.  Cool

Holy shit those tags are funny!  Dashmaster Ice. Lawl

Maaaan WTF. "Dash flunky" :/

also, "Golem advocate" Huh?? Never touched that shit in my life.


Is this some april fools shit? lol

thank Theymos - yes.. it's all random and stupid - happy fool's day! Grin

Once again our thermos keeps it hot in here for April 1.  His annual pranks keep getting better!  ^.^
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
March 31, 2017, 10:37:53 PM
iCEBREAKER you are a DASH master today!

Bahahahaha. Randomization seemingly has a sense of humour.  Cool

Holy shit those tags are funny!  Dashmaster Ice. Lawl

Maaaan WTF. "Dash flunky" :/

also, "Golem advocate" Huh?? Never touched that shit in my life.


Is this some april fools shit? lol

thank Theymos - yes.. it's all random and stupid - happy fool's day! Grin
sr. member
Activity: 408
Merit: 250
ded
March 31, 2017, 10:33:11 PM
iCEBREAKER you are a DASH master today!

Bahahahaha. Randomization seemingly has a sense of humour.  Cool

Holy shit those tags are funny!  Dashmaster Ice. Lawl

Maaaan WTF. "Dash flunky" :/

also, "Golem advocate" Huh?? Never touched that shit in my life.


Is this some april fools shit? lol
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
March 31, 2017, 10:19:30 PM
iCEBREAKER you are a DASH master today!

Bahahahaha. Randomization seemingly has a sense of humour.  Cool

Holy shit those tags are funny!  Dashmaster Ice. Lawl
sr. member
Activity: 408
Merit: 250
ded
March 31, 2017, 09:14:12 PM
I registered for your game and found it to have terrible graphics & made little to no sense. am I doing something wrong? I didn't even see "buy markka" advertised

The game is not the same as the pump. It's the game that we are pumping and other guys decide if the pump is important, so far they have deemed it not to be. But the (M, EUR, BTC, XMR value registered in the game) is equivalent to $15 million and the game marketcap (M alone) is $12.7 million.

Don't care about the graphics (or lack thereof). CK is just like poloniex or any other, except that we don't do KYC/AML. The game is a bonus.
How can you not care about the graphics??

The UI is buggy and lags.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
March 31, 2017, 08:49:12 PM
I registered for your game and found it to have terrible graphics & made little to no sense. am I doing something wrong? I didn't even see "buy markka" advertised

The game is not the same as the pump. It's the game that we are pumping and other guys decide if the pump is important, so far they have deemed it not to be. But the (M, EUR, BTC, XMR value registered in the game) is equivalent to $15 million and the game marketcap (M alone) is $12.7 million.

Don't care about the graphics (or lack thereof). CK is just like poloniex or any other, except that we don't do KYC/AML. The game is a bonus.
How can you not care about the graphics??
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
March 31, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
I think he should keep it. 😊
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
March 31, 2017, 07:35:26 PM
iCEBREAKER you are a DASH master today!

Bahahahaha. Randomization seemingly has a sense of humour.  Cool
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
March 31, 2017, 07:29:44 PM
OK it seems people are uninterested in the Markka (CK) pump.

Is there any way I can help you to make it possible to short it?

Is registering to Crypto Kingdom (takes about 2 minutes) a too big difficulty if you want to make a killing (not!) shorting Markka (it has pumped +1000% in 5 weeks now)?

Why is CK going off the XMR standard?  Doesn't that make Markka fiat, like WoW Gold?

If Eulora can keep using their BTC-based economy, why can't CK stay on XMR?

iCEBREAKER you are a DASH master today!
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
March 31, 2017, 07:28:39 PM
I believe monero will correct to 152 -162 over the next week. View the long term chart and we can see that all alts need a strong correction.

Seems low to me, but given the apathy in the market lately, I wouldn't be shocked.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
March 31, 2017, 06:26:07 PM
OK it seems people are uninterested in the Markka (CK) pump.

Is there any way I can help you to make it possible to short it?

Is registering to Crypto Kingdom (takes about 2 minutes) a too big difficulty if you want to make a killing (not!) shorting Markka (it has pumped +1000% in 5 weeks now)?

Why is CK going off the XMR standard?  Doesn't that make Markka fiat, like WoW Gold?

If Eulora can keep using their BTC-based economy, why can't CK stay on XMR?
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
March 31, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
I believe monero will correct to 152 -162 over the next week. View the long term chart and we can see that all alts need a strong correction.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
March 31, 2017, 03:25:21 PM
Still not ready to jump back in but I did short XRP today and that worked out nicely. Smiley

hero member
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March 31, 2017, 12:47:16 PM
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THE is the exchange symbol for Theory, the fuel that powers the InTheoreum network. Its kind of like money except we don't say that. Once a transaction has occured a C-APP can ask Bob about the state of a particular user account and Bob will respond with an accurate answer measured in Theory. Or not. It's as simple as that.

I have to admit it gave me a chuckle.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
March 31, 2017, 11:30:58 AM
I registered for your game and found it to have terrible graphics & made little to no sense. am I doing something wrong? I didn't even see "buy markka" advertised

The game is not the same as the pump. It's the game that we are pumping and other guys decide if the pump is important, so far they have deemed it not to be. But the (M, EUR, BTC, XMR value registered in the game) is equivalent to $15 million and the game marketcap (M alone) is $12.7 million.

Don't care about the graphics (or lack thereof). CK is just like poloniex or any other, except that we don't do KYC/AML. The game is a bonus.

In addition to not doing KYC/AML, it seems like CK also doesn't really do crypto.  It appears to just be an in-game currency.

Or perhaps you are using the inthereum Bobchain.   Grin

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WHAT IS INTHEOREUM?

Intheoreum is a new platform for ultra-centralized applications with arbitrary trust. C-APPS allow people all over the world to conduct transactions, by placing their trust in one man, Bob.

Bob controls a worldwide public record of all transactions and is provably arbitrary. We call this record, the Bobchain.

The only limit on what you can do with Intheoreum is Bob himself. The Bobchain is nothing more than a man in a room maintaining the state of the intheoreum network with Number 2 Pencil technology. New transactions come in and Bob records them. Questions about the state of a transaction go to Bob as well, he responds when he can or doesn't. Bob is chained in a room to ensure maximum uptime of the Intheoreum network.

We briefly considered a more arbitrary model where humans with large computers that waste energy, control wealth and ensure trust, but then we met Bob and he seemed cool and willing to do it.

http://intheoreum.org/#intheoreum-10

Holy shit, that is friggin hilarious!

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Users can transfer THE from one account to another just by asking Bob. Transaction failures can happen but they are guaranteed to be arbitrary.

 

Sorry risto you got beat to the punch. ROTFLMFAO!
sr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 250
March 31, 2017, 10:35:37 AM
I registered for your game and found it to have terrible graphics & made little to no sense. am I doing something wrong? I didn't even see "buy markka" advertised

The game is not the same as the pump. It's the game that we are pumping and other guys decide if the pump is important, so far they have deemed it not to be. But the (M, EUR, BTC, XMR value registered in the game) is equivalent to $15 million and the game marketcap (M alone) is $12.7 million.

Don't care about the graphics (or lack thereof). CK is just like poloniex or any other, except that we don't do KYC/AML. The game is a bonus.

In addition to not doing KYC/AML, it seems like CK also doesn't really do crypto.  It appears to just be an in-game currency.

Or perhaps you are using the inthereum Bobchain.   Grin

Quote
WHAT IS INTHEOREUM?

Intheoreum is a new platform for ultra-centralized applications with arbitrary trust. C-APPS allow people all over the world to conduct transactions, by placing their trust in one man, Bob.

Bob controls a worldwide public record of all transactions and is provably arbitrary. We call this record, the Bobchain.

The only limit on what you can do with Intheoreum is Bob himself. The Bobchain is nothing more than a man in a room maintaining the state of the intheoreum network with Number 2 Pencil technology. New transactions come in and Bob records them. Questions about the state of a transaction go to Bob as well, he responds when he can or doesn't. Bob is chained in a room to ensure maximum uptime of the Intheoreum network.

We briefly considered a more arbitrary model where humans with large computers that waste energy, control wealth and ensure trust, but then we met Bob and he seemed cool and willing to do it.

http://intheoreum.org/#intheoreum-10
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
March 31, 2017, 08:02:25 AM
I might consider buying some Moneros when Pepe cash breaks 1 usd mark.
I do not care if Monero costs 0.05 by then because it is only 2-3 times the current price - I can afford that.  Grin

For Risto, perhaps you will get also some love if you have some Pepe cash as it says in this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GpkI0FtzhE
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
March 31, 2017, 07:49:50 AM
I registered for your game and found it to have terrible graphics & made little to no sense. am I doing something wrong? I didn't even see "buy markka" advertised

The game is not the same as the pump. It's the game that we are pumping and other guys decide if the pump is important, so far they have deemed it not to be. But the (M, EUR, BTC, XMR value registered in the game) is equivalent to $15 million and the game marketcap (M alone) is $12.7 million.

Don't care about the graphics (or lack thereof). CK is just like poloniex or any other, except that we don't do KYC/AML. The game is a bonus.
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