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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 790. (Read 3314343 times)

hero member
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April 02, 2017, 08:51:23 AM
has XMR been in heavy accumulation last couple of weeks while the other top coins pumped like crazy?

Not at all. Price was from $18-25. I guess that is normal Monero price. Nothing unexpected happened. Development is just steady and solid. Yes there was successful launch of GUI2, but that was expected.

thats exactly what i meant. Like Moneros next Bullrun is still due to come. I could be very very wrong (probably)  but it just feels like Monero could really shock in April May when let loose. But who knows these days  Smiley 
legendary
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April 02, 2017, 07:35:38 AM
has XMR been in heavy accumulation last couple of weeks while the other top coins pumped like crazy?

Not at all. Price was from $18-25. I guess that is normal Monero price. Nothing unexpected happened. Development is just steady and solid. Yes there was successful launch of GUI2, but that was expected.
hero member
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April 02, 2017, 07:09:02 AM
has XMR been in heavy accumulation last couple of weeks while the other top coins pumped like crazy?
hero member
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April 02, 2017, 03:58:34 AM
I am expecting sub 0.018 on xmr now. All alts need further correction I will buy xmr at sub 0.016-0.017.

Are you a relative of the user Adolf from this forum? Because you remind of him and his huge trading knowledge and long year experience in this field.
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April 02, 2017, 03:06:00 AM
Looks like we have a short term reversal. Xmr is holding very well in the midst of the btc recovery. I expect ath 0.023 in the next month.

that would be a ~ 1 month high, not ATH.  ATH is currently 0.0265 from about 7 months ago.  It was due yesterday, but for some unfathomable reason, rangedriver missed the timing.  I know.  I can't believe it either.
I am expecting sub 0.018 on xmr now. All alts need further correction I will buy xmr at sub 0.016-0.017.
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April 02, 2017, 02:58:06 AM
Naturally, you're all forgetting that scientists are 25 years away from creating the first molecular assemblers, and 100 years away from creating the first atomic assemblers.

In the first instance, molecular assembly, it is indeed possible to 'photocopy' and 'assemble' any material object providing you have the necessary starting elements. In any capacity (including weaponised and/or generated from the funds of national governments) this would inevitably lead to economic catastophe by way of the ease in being able to 'print' unlimited amounts of paper money, along with other intricate valuables, while leaving only the elements themselves (most notably gold and silver).

This is 25 years away.

In the second instance, atomic assembly, there is no need even for a portfolio of base elements as each atom would be generated from a standard abundant element as required (e.g oxygen etc). In this scenario, neither gold or silver is spared from replication, thus leading to total material-as-storage-of-wealth destruction, and while this would theoretically lead to a 'post-scarity economy' of infinite material abundance, it would still leave a gaping hole for economies that cover the service sectors and any other human faculty of labour not represented by physical things (e.g governence).. hence, the global monopolisation of crypto-currencies, as theoretical stores of wealth that are immune from replication.

So yea... Bitcoin... Monero... Good time to buy.

Happy Saturday Everyone.

Updates:-

https://singularityhub.com/2016/05/16/nanorobots-where-we-are-today-and-why-their-future-has-amazing-potential/
https://singularityhub.com/2016/05/10/how-scientists-are-hacking-biology-to-build-at-the-molecular-scale/
http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/08/when-molecular-nanofactory-is-realized.html
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2016/nov/07/atom-assembler-makes-defect-free-arrays

Don't underestimate the race for molecular and/or atomic assembly. Very much like the pursuit of atomic weapons, the entity that cracks this science will inherit the earth... and gold and silver will be worth nada.

There is literally no substitute for wealth storage that is immune from replication. All that remains is how quickly the masses start to understand and pre-empt this, while adjusting their positions accordingly.
legendary
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April 02, 2017, 01:46:38 AM
Hey guys,

Ready for some action?

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

NEM follower?  Quite a rare tag Smiley

Damn, I got 'Litecoin professional'  I hold zero LTC.  I was hoping for a more interesting one than that!  Had my fingers crossed for XMR fanboy Wink

At least you didn't get "Dash flunky".

LOL - true, I would have had to hide away for 24 hours....
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 11:04:33 PM

So looks like Dark Coin aka Dash has now come back down for about 1/3 of the pump.

You guys think the DashMasters still have some ammo to play with in their game?

Is it gonna be a slow bleed back for the rest of the 2/3rds?

OR will we see a fast dump sometime soon?  Tongue


Slow bleed back.

The bigger shorters have been properly burned (their closing buys made the top between 100 and 120$) and they will not be going back in anytime soon. Therefore the price can slide slowly without 'passengers', and without wild swings as shorts won't come in and out.


Slow bleed, so far, looks like about right... it was at 1/3 when I wrote the above, and as of today about halfway now.

Wish I was brave enough to short this shit back the rest of the way but LOL what aminorex said about just feeling slimy dealing *at all* with any of this is right on point & principle too.

Better just sit back & watch the sideshow and hopefully just enjoy the inevitable XMR improvement rising.


That's right.  keep your hands clean.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18068602
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 10:58:32 PM
Looks like we have a short term reversal. Xmr is holding very well in the midst of the btc recovery. I expect ath 0.023 in the next month.

that would be a ~ 1 month high, not ATH.  ATH is currently 0.0265 from about 7 months ago.  It was due yesterday, but for some unfathomable reason, rangedriver missed the timing.  I know.  I can't believe it either.
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 09:44:49 PM
Hey guys,

Ready for some action?

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

NEM follower?  Quite a rare tag Smiley

I'm a rare kind of guy scammer!


FTYFY.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
Hey guys,

Ready for some action?

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

NEM follower?  Quite a rare tag Smiley

I'm a rare kind of guy!

legendary
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April 01, 2017, 09:01:42 PM
Sorry, but putting 80% of your portfolio into precious metals/mining is a terrible idea. Maybe it makes sense as some sort of short term play if you feel that there's going to be a serious financial crisis, but even then, 80%?

Gold is going only one direction long term, down. Smart people do not bet against technology.

Gold is going down against what, fiat?  I anticipate the US dollar going down from the current high faster than gold (especially as measured against Bitcoin and Monero).

Let's remember that the gold standard is a form of technology too, entailing remonetization of our favorite barbarous relic.

Technology is only a tool, subject to the whimsical uses and fickle notions of socioeconomic majorities.

EG:

The Russian central bank opened its first overseas office in Beijing on March 14, marking a step forward in forging a Beijing-Moscow alliance to bypass the US dollar in the global monetary system, and to phase-in a gold-backed standard of trade.

According to the South China Morning Post the new office was part of agreements made between the two neighbours "to seek stronger economic ties" since the West brought in sanctions against Russia over the Ukraine crisis and the oil-price slump hit the Russian economy.

The new central bank office was opened at a time when Russia is preparing to issue its first federal loan bonds denominated in Chinese yuan. Officials from China’s central bank and financial regulatory commissions attended the ceremony at the Russian embassy in Beijing, which was set up in October 1959 in the heyday of Sino-Soviet relations. Financial regulators from the two countries agreed last May to issue home currency-denominated bonds in each other’s markets, a move that was widely viewed as intended to eventually test the global reserve status of the US dollar.

Speaking on future ties with Russia, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said in mid-March that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices, but he added that he saw great potential in cooperation. Vladimir Shapovalov, a senior official at the Russian central bank, said the two central banks were drafting a memorandum of understanding to solve technical issues around China’s gold imports from Russia, and that details would be released soon.
hero member
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April 01, 2017, 08:46:36 PM

So looks like Dark Coin aka Dash has now come back down for about 1/3 of the pump.

You guys think the DashMasters still have some ammo to play with in their game?

Is it gonna be a slow bleed back for the rest of the 2/3rds?

OR will we see a fast dump sometime soon?  Tongue


Slow bleed back.

The bigger shorters have been properly burned (their closing buys made the top between 100 and 120$) and they will not be going back in anytime soon. Therefore the price can slide slowly without 'passengers', and without wild swings as shorts won't come in and out.


Slow bleed, so far, looks like about right... it was at 1/3 when I wrote the above, and as of today about halfway now.

Wish I was brave enough to short this shit back the rest of the way but LOL what aminorex said about just feeling slimy dealing *at all* with any of this is right on point & principle too.

Better just sit back & watch the sideshow and hopefully just enjoy the inevitable XMR improvement rising.
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April 01, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
Looks like we have a short term reversal. Xmr is holding very well in the midst of the btc recovery. I expect ath 0.023 in the next month.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
April 01, 2017, 06:55:31 PM
Sorry, but putting 80% of your portfolio into precious metals/mining is a terrible idea. Maybe it makes sense as some sort of short term play if you feel that there's going to be a serious financial crisis, but even then, 80%?

Gold is going only one direction long term, down. Smart people do not bet against technology.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure if I can take a Chronobank Proponent, Ark Champion and Shadowcash Investor seriously!!! Tongue

LOL, just shorted Dash right before the hammer fell @0.06272554. Cheesy
sr. member
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April 01, 2017, 05:52:13 PM
Sorry, but putting 80% of your portfolio into precious metals/mining is a terrible idea. Maybe it makes sense as some sort of short term play if you feel that there's going to be a serious financial crisis, but even then, 80%?

Gold is going only one direction long term, down. Smart people do not bet against technology.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
April 01, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
do you feel the BTC fork is inevitable or will this somehow get resolved?  And how will both possible outcomes affect the price of Monero in USD terms?

I am not privy to any privileged information pertaining to the likelihood of avoiding a fork.  From what public information I do know, it seems inevitable. 

You can think of it as a stock split or spinoff, in which case you should be bullish BTC, and expect outflows from alts due to other bulls, at least until the split has occurred and a stabilizing reversion begins; or, you can see it as precipitating a crisis of confidence among BTC holders, causing a rush into fiat, and significant inflows to alts.  As both views are plausibly supportable and I don't know the breakdown among crypto owners, I can't estimate how much or in what direction the market is misplacing it's estimation of scenario distributions.

As I can't front-run the market, I am not trading that turn.  Instead, I base my current positioning on considerations of volatility, which does seem very likely to rise substantially, and structural risk, which also seems to favor XMR over BTC.  My guess is that, as before, when BTC is in crisis, XMR will benefit more than most other alts.
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Great post.  Do you mean direct ownership of (Chilean) farmland or are there ETFs you like for that?

My father is almost ready to retire and I want him to take a lump sum because I don't trust the solvency of his pension system any more than the Dallas PD's.

Considering this allocation for him:

20% gold bullion
20% silver bullion

16% safe jurisdiction PM miners
24% riskier jurisdiction/high dividend PM miners/royalty streamers
10% high dividend energy

5% Bitcoin
3% Monero
2% Litecoin

I guess you'd say 50% long equities is too much exposure to market counterparties/failures?

BTW, welcome back!  Smiley


I like hard, productive assets over financial instruments, for long holding.  For most people farmland in South America or .au/.nz is piainful and inconvenient to own.  That's a significant part of the reason why it is relatively cheap.  It's probably not good for someone in retirement for whom liquidity is a paramount factor, unless they think to actually use it directly, or have ready arrangements for reliable rental income from it, in excess of what they could buy in an annuity.

I do think your proposed allocation is rather heavy in PM exposure.  I think streaming is probably better than miners, and the risk exposures are so correlated that I can't see much diversification benefit from holding significantly in both categories.  Physical metal is the systemic tail risk hedge.  Streamers are a levered inflation play with nice asymmetry, so I would trim the miners.

As for energy, that's a complex topic which I can't address right now.

In response to other questions: I don't hold significant amounts of cold reserve bitcoin, although I do have about 2% in a liquidity wallet at the moment.  My inclination is to trade it and use it rather than to hoard it.  People with less intense commitment to the peculiar merits of XMR than I should  definitely hold cold BTC as a significant part of long-term crypto.
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 02:42:37 PM
Price of Chilean farmland has just jumped 20%.

Damn, always too late Tongue
legendary
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April 01, 2017, 02:21:25 PM

Damn, I got 'Litecoin professional'  I hold zero LTC.  I was hoping for a more interesting one than that!  Had my fingers crossed for XMR fanboy Wink


Funny I played LTC market for first time ever yesterday, bought @0.0041441 -sold @0.00715948 then again today shorted @0.00683250 wasn't sure which it was going to break so bailed @0.00676825, The volatility is ludicrous right now!


How can you not care about the graphics??

You know dude I am on a party where a bottle of champagne costs $2000 and the Imperial lounge sets you back $250k (if full = 4 people). My lounge is worth about $100k and I just do not care about graphics I hope you understand. I care about my kids and wish that is happening soon.

so you would rather buy 2k champagne than hire a 3d modeler and a 3d programmer to make your game playable, real nice job your doing there.

BTW what is the viewkey for the CK xmr funds?

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