[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 788.

Peanutbutterpolka

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Quote from: Peanutbutterpolka on April 03, 2017, 12:15:50 PM

Is mymonero site working for you guys? It's hung up on a transaction now for a few hours, what gives?

It seemed a little iffy yesterday as well.

How long do these hang ups normally last? I can't send anything else right now either. My account is in essence frozen as it says unconfirmed for a few hours now. I can't even make any other transactions. Sad

Do transactions time out on mymonero? What is the normal wait when something is hung up?

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Quote from: KeyJockey on March 04, 2017, 06:36:27 PM

Guys, as a lot of the Dash people seem to sincerely believe that coinbase is gonna add them first Huh

but I think around here we-all pretty much believe (more likely based on what Armstrong, Lee, etc have actually *said* lately, not to mention their actual POLL results) that it's going to be MONERO next up on their platform as the #3 crypto coin gonna be made available to the mass market... it's occurred to me today that maybe something ELSE may be in the works rather than just us or them being disappointed when this news finally comes.

Seems to me that IF maybe coinbase doesn't want to be seen as 'playing favorites' or engaging in any action that could be construed as 'manipulating the markets' maybe if they're seriously gonna add either Dash or XMR next, it might be that they kinda have to ADD BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME??

Picking one or the other right now, especially in light of recent events, has many pro/con aspects to either decision and seems to me there's no clear correct choice other than don't do either of them OR -- better -- just do 'em both at once!!

So, is that crazy thinking or does anyone else here see maybe this might be how it'd have to play out...?

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Guys, as a lot of the Dash people seem to sincerely believe that coinbase is gonna add them first but I think around here we-all pretty much believe (more likely based on what Armstrong, Lee, etc have actually *said* lately, not to mention their actual POLL results) that it's going to be MONERO next up on their platform as the #3 crypto coin gonna be made available to the mass market... it's occurred to me today that maybe something ELSE may be in the works rather than just us or them being disappointed when this news finally comes.

Seems to me that IF maybe coinbase doesn't want to be seen as 'playing favorites' or engaging in any action that could be construed as 'manipulating the markets' maybe if they're seriously gonna add either Dash or XMR next, it might be that they kinda have to ADD BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME??

Picking one or the other right now, especially in light of recent events, has many pro/con aspects to either decision and seems to me there's no clear correct choice other than don't do either of them OR -- better -- just do 'em both at once!!

So, is that crazy thinking or does anyone else here see maybe this might be how it'd have to play out...?

WTF is there an echo in here? LOL

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Guys, as a lot of the Dash people seem to sincerely believe that coinbase is gonna add them first but I think around here we-all pretty much believe (more likely based on what Armstrong, Lee, etc have actually *said* lately, not to mention their actual POLL results) that it's going to be MONERO next up on their platform as the #3 crypto coin gonna be made available to the mass market... it's occurred to me today that maybe something ELSE may be in the works rather than just us or them being disappointed when this news finally comes.

Seems to me that IF maybe coinbase doesn't want to be seen as 'playing favorites' or engaging in any action that could be construed as 'manipulating the markets' maybe if they're seriously gonna add either Dash or XMR next, it might be that they kinda have to ADD BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME??

Picking one or the other right now, especially in light of recent events, has many pro/con aspects to either decision and seems to me there's no clear correct choice other than don't do either of them OR -- better -- just do 'em both at once!!

So, is that crazy thinking or does anyone else here see maybe this might be how it'd have to play out...?

I'd be very surprised if they added DASH given Charlie's opinion on it.

Much more likely would be Monero with Decred, and/or Litecoin depending on volume.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Guys, as a lot of the Dash people seem to sincerely believe that coinbase is gonna add them first but I think around here we-all pretty much believe (more likely based on what Armstrong, Lee, etc have actually *said* lately, not to mention their actual POLL results) that it's going to be MONERO next up on their platform as the #3 crypto coin gonna be made available to the mass market... it's occurred to me today that maybe something ELSE may be in the works rather than just us or them being disappointed when this news finally comes.

Seems to me that IF maybe coinbase doesn't want to be seen as 'playing favorites' or engaging in any action that could be construed as 'manipulating the markets' maybe if they're seriously gonna add either Dash or XMR next, it might be that they kinda have to ADD BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME??

Picking one or the other right now, especially in light of recent events, has many pro/con aspects to either decision and seems to me there's no clear correct choice other than don't do either of them OR -- better -- just do 'em both at once!!

So, is that crazy thinking or does anyone else here see maybe this might be how it'd have to play out...?

Coinbase have said that their long-term goal is to add multiple coins so it's not necessarily a case of either/or.

That said, given what Lee has said about Dash, I just can't imagine how Coinbase could offer it without undermining their credibility. If their Director of Engineering believes that Dash is a scam, how could they possibly then defend it to their customers? Either it is a scam - in which case they shouldn't be offering it - or their Director of Engineering is not to be trusted, in which case he shouldn't be their D of E anymore. They can't have it both ways.

There is also the possibility that it might be another coin(s) entirely. Litecoin, for example. Or Decred, or even the Basic Attention Token (both of which have had positive recognition by Armstrong and Lee).

My money is still on Monero. Fingers crossed.

Peanutbutterpolka

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Is mymonero site working for you guys? It's hung up on a transaction now for a few hours, what gives?

It seemed a little iffy yesterday as well.

How long do these hang ups normally last? I can't send anything else right now either. My account is in essence frozen as it says unconfirmed for a few hours now. I can't even make any other transactions. Sad

KeyJockey

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Heh

Madness in all directions

Poloniex crashing all day yesterday

Different ALTS going crazy

...and Monero still right there about $20 Cheesy

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Quote from: explorer on April 03, 2017, 08:22:22 AM

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No idea, just always seems that after Dash goes up and comes down, the capital shifts to Monero. Will it happen again?

I am of the opinion that many larger investors enter crypto alts through Dash because of the marketing and after awhile they realize it's snake oil and being large investors they know how to make an exit with profit and shift to the better tech.

Quote from: Macno on April 03, 2017, 02:07:16 AM

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Thank you for the explanation. So "CON" exists? Ok. Nice one. Sometimes I wish we had at least one obsessive sociopath on our team to troll you guys, just for the fun of reading the exhanges, but they somehow all ended on your team.
Imho the only "significant amount of emotion" about Monero on the DASH side is that we keep getting stalked by Icey and the likes. Otherwise I really respect and like XMR actually and I appreciate that at least smooth has stopped the harassment (I still think it has something to do with the fact that he witnessed an actual intentional fraudulent launch with Steemit that he does not want to write about for some reason, but what do I know...maybe he will be a guest in some Tone Vays Show to talk about it one day).

Anyway, good luck XMR! See some of you in the DASH ANN again!

Very nice post, I hope to see more of the same.

Quote from: volyova on April 03, 2017, 10:34:46 AM

Quote from: jay8291 on April 03, 2017, 09:23:06 AM

Dont know why Projects like Monero are at Lower Price than the Shit Projects like DASH with Instamined Supply..

Monero should be atleast at No. 3

The market does not agree with you.

Apparently he wasn't around for the market going nuts over the "Pet Rock". LOL

Marketing is king.

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Quote from: jay8291 on April 03, 2017, 09:23:06 AM

Dont know why Projects like Monero are at Lower Price than the Shit Projects like DASH with Instamined Supply..

Monero should be atleast at No. 3

The market does not agree with you.

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Dont know why Projects like Monero are at Lower Price than the Shit Projects like DASH with Instamined Supply..

Monero should be atleast at No. 3

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Quote from: Supercrypt on April 03, 2017, 07:38:19 AM

Quote from: explorer on April 03, 2017, 12:29:15 AM

Quote from: ArticMine on April 03, 2017, 12:06:25 AM

Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

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I'm still missing how dash is involved.

A falling DASH/XBT or DASH/USD is an indicator that anyone who is short Monero would be wise to pay attention to. Just look for example at what happened in August 2016. First Dash falls then Monero rises. Theoretically one can make a case that the Monero markets are un-correlated to the Dash markets; however there is still a significant amount of emotion on the subject in both the Monero and Dash communities for short term leveraged traders to ignore.

Ahh. An oft noted correlation. Thank you for the explanation, I DID take it as an April Fools joke Cheesy

. Dash is still 3x what it was when my eyebrows started to rise, so there may yet be time for wisdom, if no native affinity, among Monero shorters.

I didn’t know the correlation too. Do you know why that is tough?
I mean why is there a correlation between dash price rising and monero price dropping? Is there like a eth,etc type of deal between them? What is the history that causes this reverse prices?

No idea, just always seems that after Dash goes up and comes down, the capital shifts to Monero. Will it happen again?

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Quote from: explorer on April 03, 2017, 12:29:15 AM

Quote from: ArticMine on April 03, 2017, 12:06:25 AM

Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

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I'm still missing how dash is involved.

A falling DASH/XBT or DASH/USD is an indicator that anyone who is short Monero would be wise to pay attention to. Just look for example at what happened in August 2016. First Dash falls then Monero rises. Theoretically one can make a case that the Monero markets are un-correlated to the Dash markets; however there is still a significant amount of emotion on the subject in both the Monero and Dash communities for short term leveraged traders to ignore.

Ahh. An oft noted correlation. Thank you for the explanation, I DID take it as an April Fools joke Cheesy

. Dash is still 3x what it was when my eyebrows started to rise, so there may yet be time for wisdom, if no native affinity, among Monero shorters.

I didn’t know the correlation too. Do you know why that is tough?
I mean why is there a correlation between dash price rising and monero price dropping? Is there like a eth,etc type of deal between them? What is the history that causes this reverse prices?

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Quote from: aminorex on April 02, 2017, 07:30:55 PM

Speculation:. When BTC forks everyone will be holding their coins tightly, and transaction traffic will approach nil. Consequently the only way to actually buy anything on, e.g., alphabay will be using XMR. XMR valuation may double, triple, quadruple overnight.

At least today there is direct EUR and USD to XMR (Bitfinex and Kraken), and for sure I will not touch my BTC during these days.
Great speculation.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on April 03, 2017, 01:56:13 AM

Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on April 02, 2017, 09:38:56 PM

Quote from: Macno on April 02, 2017, 03:58:40 PM

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So this was all a joke? Ok, good one, got me, I fell for it.
I thought it was serious because I thought Icey would not have missed the opportunity to make fun of me when I asked him about it.

CON (XMR debt) was converted to equity in Crypto Kingdom (CK) in early September 2016. At that time Dash was trading below 1 XMR. Should a similar or more severe crash in DASH/XMR occur in the future Crypto Kingdom will not be adversely impacted at all since it is no longer short XMR.

Dash is currently trading below 3 XMR but still has a quite way to go down if is going to test the September 3, 2016, low of 0.671 XMR.

I'm still missing how dash is involved.

In the Kingdom of Crypto, Dash is the village idiot.

The chief window licker. Currently absorbing massive pay cut.

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Quote from: ArticMine on April 03, 2017, 12:06:25 AM

Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

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I'm still missing how dash is involved.

A falling DASH/XBT or DASH/USD is an indicator that anyone who is short Monero would be wise to pay attention to. Just look for example at what happened in August 2016. First Dash falls then Monero rises. Theoretically one can make a case that the Monero markets are un-correlated to the Dash markets; however there is still a significant amount of emotion on the subject in both the Monero and Dash communities for short term leveraged traders to ignore.

Thank you for the explanation. So "CON" exists? Ok. Nice one. Sometimes I wish we had at least one obsessive sociopath on our team to troll you guys, just for the fun of reading the exhanges, but they somehow all ended on your team.
Imho the only "significant amount of emotion" about Monero on the DASH side is that we keep getting stalked by Icey and the likes. Otherwise I really respect and like XMR actually and I appreciate that at least smooth has stopped the harassment (I still think it has something to do with the fact that he witnessed an actual intentional fraudulent launch with Steemit that he does not want to write about for some reason, but what do I know...maybe he will be a guest in some Tone Vays Show to talk about it one day).

Anyway, good luck XMR! See some of you in the DASH ANN again!

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Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on April 02, 2017, 09:38:56 PM

Quote from: Macno on April 02, 2017, 03:58:40 PM

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So this was all a joke? Ok, good one, got me, I fell for it.
I thought it was serious because I thought Icey would not have missed the opportunity to make fun of me when I asked him about it.

CON (XMR debt) was converted to equity in Crypto Kingdom (CK) in early September 2016. At that time Dash was trading below 1 XMR. Should a similar or more severe crash in DASH/XMR occur in the future Crypto Kingdom will not be adversely impacted at all since it is no longer short XMR.

Dash is currently trading below 3 XMR but still has a quite way to go down if is going to test the September 3, 2016, low of 0.671 XMR.

I'm still missing how dash is involved.

In the Kingdom of Crypto, Dash is the village idiot.

explorer

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Quote from: ArticMine on April 03, 2017, 12:06:25 AM

Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

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I'm still missing how dash is involved.

A falling DASH/XBT or DASH/USD is an indicator that anyone who is short Monero would be wise to pay attention to. Just look for example at what happened in August 2016. First Dash falls then Monero rises. Theoretically one can make a case that the Monero markets are un-correlated to the Dash markets; however there is still a significant amount of emotion on the subject in both the Monero and Dash communities for short term leveraged traders to ignore.

Ahh. An oft noted correlation. Thank you for the explanation, I DID take it as an April Fools joke Cheesy

. Dash is still 3x what it was when my eyebrows started to rise, so there may yet be time for wisdom, if no native affinity, among Monero shorters.

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Quote from: explorer on April 02, 2017, 10:47:12 PM

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I'm still missing how dash is involved.

A falling DASH/XBT or DASH/USD is an indicator that anyone who is short Monero would be wise to pay attention to. Just look for example at what happened in August 2016. First Dash falls then Monero rises. Theoretically one can make a case that the Monero markets are un-correlated to the Dash markets; however there is still a significant amount of emotion on the subject in both the Monero and Dash communities for short term leveraged traders to ignore.

explorer

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Quote from: ArticMine on April 02, 2017, 09:38:56 PM

Quote from: Macno on April 02, 2017, 03:58:40 PM

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So this was all a joke? Ok, good one, got me, I fell for it.
I thought it was serious because I thought Icey would not have missed the opportunity to make fun of me when I asked him about it.

CON (XMR debt) was converted to equity in Crypto Kingdom (CK) in early September 2016. At that time Dash was trading below 1 XMR. Should a similar or more severe crash in DASH/XMR occur in the future Crypto Kingdom will not be adversely impacted at all since it is no longer short XMR.

Dash is currently trading below 3 XMR but still has a quite way to go down if is going to test the September 3, 2016, low of 0.671 XMR.

I'm still missing how dash is involved.

ArticMine

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Quote from: Macno on April 02, 2017, 03:58:40 PM

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So this was all a joke? Ok, good one, got me, I fell for it.
I thought it was serious because I thought Icey would not have missed the opportunity to make fun of me when I asked him about it.

CON (XMR debt) was converted to equity in Crypto Kingdom (CK) in early September 2016. At that time Dash was trading below 1 XMR. Should a similar or more severe crash in DASH/XMR occur in the future Crypto Kingdom will not be adversely impacted at all since it is no longer short XMR.

Dash is currently trading below 3 XMR but still has a quite way to go down if is going to test the September 3, 2016, low of 0.671 XMR.

Hueristic

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Quote from: aminorex on April 02, 2017, 07:30:55 PM

Speculation:. When BTC forks everyone will be holding their coins tightly, and transaction traffic will approach nil. Consequently the only way to actually buy anything on alphabay will be using xmr. XMR valuation may double, triple, quadruple overnight.

that would be nice to see.

I'm going to gamble if there is a fork and keep BTC and see it the 2 are worth more than the 1 like etc/eth turned out to be. But I have a really small amount so I can afford to take that gamble. I think it's a long shot and XMR increasing at that time has a much higher chance of happening. Pretty much high risk higher upside thing. But who knows I may see a great entry point before then and be 100% XMR at that time. Cheesy

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