Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 806. (Read 3314350 times)

So, your point is that fluffy gives poor investment advice. Noted. Thanks for stopping by.

It's a long time, but i have had a few discussins with you, which went not into fudding, scam accussasions and ... like it went with so many other ponnys when i was talking about dash to them. So yeah i think you are not that bad/retarded (perhaps it has to do with the user smoothie, that you are not liked ) - so at least for me you are one of the camp monero guys with who i had some serious conversations in the past.

About the second part, ofc some people lost money for buying high and selling low. But thats traders choice, and it has nothing to do with dash and that dash scamed these people because of false promises - in fact these "promises" if you wanna call them that way, were all fullfilled because everyone (at least for now at an ath) has made money if he beliefed in dashs tech.

Instead with the shorters who lost money its a different story, because its not one, not two, not three videos in which fluffy and his gang discredited dash, its many of them! And he clearly told in these videos that dash is a total scam and its not worth even a cent. So what will someone do who saw that and thought its the truth, right he would short after the first move from 10 to 20 dollar. And he will only short more the higher it goes (if he has money left, perhaps he will also sell his wife/mother/... if he hasen't), because with all these flaws and scams, dash is not even worth 1 dollar, not 10, not 20, .... -> but it turned out they got burned all and now its worth 100 dollar, so who did scam all the noobs? Fluffy or Dash?

sry to interrupt you here, but he said - the track record of fluffy shows how wrong he is.

* Fluffy told dash is crap and will go to 0 - instead it went x10.
* Fluffy told not to buy monero, instead it went x30.

So i don't understand your logic about where he is contradicting or where he is one time listening to fluffy and one time not.

These two examples are showing a 100 % wrong doing, in dash and in monero, and thats what Fragbait said.

So no clue what you understood from his post.

Hey wait a minute. I never told anyone to short anything and fluffypony never did either (not sure about the others). I even pointed out on the Dash thread years ago that I own some, and still do, though I wouldn't call it a massive position. I do think long term Dash is going to (nearly) zero, and it won't be alone among today's major cryptos, but that is hardly a reason to short, unless you are prepared to maintain collateral and pay interest (and hope that the shorting market still exists) indefinitely. I'm not recommending that one bit and I never did.

As far as the previous quote, this is certainly not correct. Dash has made new ATHs (as had XMR) but that doesn't mean that people didn't lose money, FOMO buying and then selling lower when the hype faded (or other similarly bad trading). Many have.

Now you're contradicting yourself. Should we be listening to our ill-informing masters or not?

Well your very own Pony told you not to buy Monero, so...

Good point. I lost so much money last year on Monero's 30x price increase  

Even with Dash over $100 I'd be lucky to have gotten even a 10x return.

I don't know what you mean by lack of marketing compared to BTC or Dash-Trash but in my EU country the usage of btc hasn't grown a bit in the last 5 years - 1-2 exchanges that have very bad exch. rates and one small shopping site where from my research only 1-2 persons have bought something with btc through the integrated bad exchange rates.  Oh and about the dash-trash - hahaha - noone ever heard of it. Even in the cryptoforums only few know darkcoin.  Sooo  yeah, I woldn't say nothing is bigger that nothing and that nothing is the biggest.

This man speaks the truth. Just keep on listening to Fulffy and Icebreaker and Smooth and Generalthis and who else if you want to keep on losing money. Their track record so far certainly indicates that.

For most of Monero's lifespan, it was behind Dark Coin in market cap, so we got quite used to it. The Dark/Dash trolls never let up about how their high market cap "proved" their superiority over other alts, and Monero in particular. When Monero surpassed scamcoin's market cap, the shoe was on the other foot, so to speak. Of course this presented a good opportunity for some revenge prodding.

You won't find many here who believe that a coin's short-term market cap is proof of its legitimacy, acceptance, superiority, or anything else. Market cap it but one quality of many. In fact, we're all quite aware that scamdash's centralization makes these pumps very easy to engineer.

When will Coinbase make up their mind wether to add Xmr or not? If that will be announced I am expecting huge increase in Monero's price and probably new trading range.

Here you go some charts, just in case you want to make your own research instead of just repeating what others say ...

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-dash.html (since 01/2017 from ~1.5k to ~8.5k tx a day!)



i'm quite sure the dash price will correct, after all shorters have been burnt, dunno if there are still some left, but with all that hate i guess some will sell theire mother to short dash.
(But i won't bet on it. The hate against dash is still very high, so there could easy be another pump by these shorters.)

And that was exactly my point, this dash price is in a bubble right now (the same monero was when it was added to dnms), perhaps it can go another x10 perhaps even x100 who knows?! - But the shorters think they know better because they heared everywhere how bad dash is, ask fluffy im sure he will tell you, and thats where people get burnt hard - if you wan't to talk about scams, perhaps you wanna talk about those scammed people that lost real money!!

And yes marketcap has not so much to do with "how good or bad a coin is" - the funny thing is, now you agree with me on that, but last time moneros marketcap was higher than dashs, marketcap was for sure an indicator of success - at least thats what everybody told in here at the time - thats what i mean with kindergarden!

Monero did not blast through the ATH as some expected but trend has definitely reversed; though I think market is overheated and time for a correction. Any price under .020 should be considered a gift. Consider loading up when a correction comes but also be careful of a double top at the ATH. If the ATH is taken out on volume buy on pull backs to support of course.

Not so unlikely... they only need to keep the narrative alive long enough.

Hi Megges:

Yah okay everything you say MAY be true I suppose, but IF and ONLY IF... THIS time, is NOT like the PAST.

Relinking, again, from an earlier post...



CONTRAST to the XMR chart over TIME where we see a much more natural, organic, relatively *steady* rise (except for the DMN hype spike last summer) and unless and until the Dash transactions volume (i.e. real transactions by real people buying and selling real things, not just DashMasters flipping coins around)... well, remains to be seen if you have anything to crow about yet or not.

We'll check back on this post in, say, six months to a year and see where things are then, m'kay?  LOL

it's a scam, zero real world usage...

https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360

number of dash transactions per day has gone nowhere since launch


compare to xmr:

http://monerostats.com/charts/?type=transactions

steady uptrend in number of transactions per day...

market cap is a very bad measure of success!

best regards,

If you scroll back a few hundered pages, you'll see that there was a time, when monero was outperforming dashs marketcap.
At this time, almost everyone in here was circle jerking about how superior monero is to dash, because marketcap shows that.
There were also a lot of pictures posted, that shown how much faster monero is growing and how past behind dash is (monero cars with little dash cars in the rear mirror) ...

Everyone in here was laughing about how dash failed because monero got over dashs marketcap, they even came in masses to the dash thread to post there circle jerking.

Now dash has outperformed moneros marketcap - and now guys, like you are telling that the marketcap has nothing to do with success.

Also i did not see any posts in here from dash people laughing about monero, zero ! instead monero guys are asking questions in here about dash - do you see a difference?

All the time it was said, dash is trolling monero and thats because why monero is trolling and discrediting dash - but i see nothing in here, where are these bad dash people?

I don't wan't to be rude, but for real the kindergarden is here and not at dash.

And many many people lost a fuckload of money because fluffy was telling everybody how bad dash is, right before it sprung x10. These people shorted dash because they beliefed fluffy, and lost all, these shorters are the ones which made the dash price rise exponential bigger than it would have been without the shorting. And they shorted because dash is so bad and its just a pump and dump scam coin and so on, at least everybody told them so - for them 20 dollar a dash was hardly overpriced, look where dash is now.

If you ask for who was scammed by dash, you won't find one (at least noone who was buying in the last 3 years), because price went from ath to ath, there could no one be scammed per definition, because noone could have lost with ath after ath. (for me a scam is if someone loses money! - ofc thats my definition, but its true!). On the other hand lots and lots of people lost money because they shorted dash after all that "its a total scam coin" definition from fluffy and his friends with all these cool videos...

Better think about that, before you say dash is a scam!

What is the scam part of dark coin?
Who has been ripped off and how much the losses are?

The fact that someone has premined a lot of coins doesn't make it scam but the performance. Dark coin seems to be legit project with premine funding. Bear in mind, the whole fiat system is based on monopolistic "mining" but nobody sane will scream in front of E.C.B. "scam scam scam!".

I don't think this was posted yet:

"This chart looks delightful.  Pricetime has only just crossed the 1st arc pair.  The 3rd arc pair is a good first target at $26, but it would not surprise me at all if it went to the 5th pair, at ~$36



All in all, it appears that for now at least, the so-called ‘altcoins’ have taken center stage.  Bitcoin may resume its run in the not-distant future, but for the time being, the money is rolling into several of the better-known of her siblings in the crypto space."

https://hacked.com/analysis-ethereum-reached-peak-another-cryptocurrency-monitor/

It will have zero meaning for Monero price . Same as it will have zero meaning on Bitcoin price that is far most used currency on Alphabay.  On first May it will have for sure some meaning for Ethereum price.