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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 823. (Read 3314350 times)

legendary
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March 12, 2017, 06:31:48 PM
Hi fam. Many of you know me but it's a secret who I am. Monero getting interesting again so I guess it's time to pay attention to this thread again. Theories as to why the sudden rise?

Relief rally now that apparent threat of COIN ETF to XMRBTC is removed. Also, anticipation of official GUI release, kovri, multisig, mandatory RingCT, and integration by Coinbase. Finally, it just ain't right that DASH market cap exceeds XMR's. Something's gotta give.

Multisig and integration by coinbase Shocked. These things are news to me. Wow.

And yea i'll agree that definitely isn't right. People say "dash has instant transactions, wow, amazing, what a big step forward". But is that a step forward? My visa has functionally instant transaction speed and that was the case long before bitcoin. Visa just achieved it by being centralized, the same way dash is achieving it. Now they would cry fowl of course. Masternodes aren't centralized they would say. Credit where it is due, they aren't a true monopoly in the sense that visa is the monopoly transaction processor on its own network, but is a cartel that much better?

Fewer entities controlling the cartel than the monopoly.  Not Good.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
March 12, 2017, 05:48:37 PM

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You can't make valid comparisons between legitimate crypto like Monero and a security/privacy theater like Dash (which coblee calls "digital trash" and ptodd calls "bad crypto" and "snake oil").

That's like comparing a GE nuclear power plant to the Free Energy Cold Fusion device some crank built in his garage (and won't let you closely examine).
pa
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 05:23:22 PM
Hi fam. Many of you know me but it's a secret who I am. Monero getting interesting again so I guess it's time to pay attention to this thread again. Theories as to why the sudden rise?

Relief rally now that apparent threat of COIN ETF to XMRBTC is removed. Also, anticipation of official GUI release, kovri, multisig, mandatory RingCT, and integration by Coinbase. Finally, it just ain't right that DASH market cap exceeds XMR's. Something's gotta give.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
March 12, 2017, 05:19:31 PM
The "Dash is a scam" argument doesn't work. Open your eyes. Look at the price.
Fiat money is a scam too. No one cares.

Oh you want to play assertion theater?  Good, I love that game.  Here goes.

Your tired old argument (that the "Dash is a scam" argument doesn't work) doesn't work.

Open your eyes.  Look at how Tone Vays changed his mind about Dash thanks to our "Dash is an Instamined scam" public awareness campaign (and is now besties with Fluffy!  Cheesy).

Fiat money is a scam too.  Many people care; Ron Paul is a hero to millions of boomers, Gen-Xrs, and Millennials.

See how much better my assertions are than yours?  That's because I back them up with supporting evidence and analysis.

Now that the Dash scam is exploding, it's time for all the work we've done to prepare for that possibility to pay dividends.

Our long consistent record of warning others and volumes of research will now help dissuade those who may have otherwise been a victim of Evan's fraud.

Nobody can claim we just suddenly started speaking out because of the recent price rise.  Anyone can go back and see we've always had the same conclusion.

And we're not going to change that conclusion (nor stop broadcasting it) when some hopeless, weepy noob starts pouting about how crying fraud "doesn't work" because "no one cares."  Wink

When the Dash bubble bursts, some of the released capital will naturally find its way into Monero.  That may already be Happening....   Shocked
sr. member
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March 12, 2017, 05:18:59 PM
Hi fam. Many of you know me but it's a secret who I am. Monero getting interesting again so I guess it's time to pay attention to this thread again. Theories as to why the sudden rise?
How to know a person when you are creating new accounts every time you talk in here. Tongue and is it really matters .All the alt coins are having good movement and i am not sure what the reason is,can we expect a correction in the price of these coins anytime soon,i am not aware of these news and is there is any site where i could get information regarding specific alt coins.
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
Ha! Pun-tastic stuff...

At least Moneroans have a sense of fun.

And on the speculation front, concerning the 'Amanda-less' coin we follow - more price action.   Rising again - having anther go at 0.014x levels, with buy side up above 2K BTC on Polo...

The spike is not over just yet.



My bids keep getting overtaken by a big wall.  I'm done chasing, so it should be a healthy spike up now  Roll Eyes

Yeah, when the bots want to buy you have no chance of catching a sell. Sad

But luckily when that is going on the gap is usually thinner between points. Smiley

It's been a great day of trading so far today - loving all this volatility - my bot plays a cash register sound every time a trade is hit - and its being going off all day.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
March 12, 2017, 04:01:58 PM
Ha! Pun-tastic stuff...

At least Moneroans have a sense of fun.

And on the speculation front, concerning the 'Amanda-less' coin we follow - more price action.   Rising again - having anther go at 0.014x levels, with buy side up above 2K BTC on Polo...

The spike is not over just yet.



My bids keep getting overtaken by a big wall.  I'm done chasing, so it should be a healthy spike up now  Roll Eyes

Yeah, when the bots want to buy you have no chance of catching a sell. Sad

But luckily when that is going on the gap is usually thinner between points. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
March 12, 2017, 03:59:51 PM
Ha! Pun-tastic stuff...

At least Moneroans have a sense of fun.

And on the speculation front, concerning the 'Amanda-less' coin we follow - more price action.   Rising again - having anther go at 0.014x levels, with buy side up above 2K BTC on Polo...

The spike is not over just yet.



My bids keep getting overtaken by a big wall.  I'm done chasing, so it should be a healthy spike up now  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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March 12, 2017, 03:56:36 PM
The people arguing that Dash won over Monero because Dash is easier to use just don't get it. Dash being easier to use is actually completely irrelevant. People who want easy to use will use Paypal. It has instant payments, instant currency conversion, it's accepted nearly everywhere, they offer credit lines with generous repayment terms, reasonably good customer service, you can send payments to friends/family without paying a fee, as well as much more. The type of people who want something convenient and easy to use are not lacking in options.

Monero is not as easy to use, but unlike Dash, Monero has real use cases! Despite the steeper learning curve, people are already using Monero in a significant way. Note how Monero's transaction volumes have been steadily increasing over the past few months. That's a surer sign of success than any pump.
full member
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March 12, 2017, 03:49:09 PM
Looks like we have something cookin here? Wink
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 03:30:21 PM
Ha! Pun-tastic stuff...

At least Moneroans have a sense of fun.

And on the speculation front, concerning the 'Amanda-less' coin we follow - more price action.   Rising again - having anther go at 0.014x levels, with buy side up above 2K BTC on Polo...

The spike is not over just yet.

legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
March 12, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
Thanks for the responses. Very useful in my quest to determine which anoni-coin to support.

But, too bad you can't rein in the relentless trollers in the Dash thread. They are delusional to think their tactics will convert anyone on the fence (in a Dash thread, lol), and in fact, initially turned me against Monero.

I really don't know if Monero can succeed against the advantages that Dash is using so well, the marketing and user friendliness. Because a coin without a user base, a robust network, seems rather pointless. Nevertheless, it's a good fight, very entertaining. But it's not enough to have more ability. You still have to win in the ring.


If trollers in the dash thread initially turned you against Monero then maybe you should not be investing in Monero. Trolls should not have any effect on your decision on which tech/coin to invest in, just do your own due diligence using credible sources.

and the advantages that you mention Dash having "marketing and user friendliness" are not advantages over technical robustness in any way - they are purely transient. and monero has already won in the ring...with its use of ring signatures.

Truthfully, Monero is the Ring Leader  Cheesy
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 03:07:25 PM
Hm Monero just broke out from the giant 6 months wedge. This will be a huge ride  Cheesy
jr. member
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March 12, 2017, 02:30:43 PM
Thanks for the responses. Very useful in my quest to determine which anoni-coin to support.

But, too bad you can't rein in the relentless trollers in the Dash thread. They are delusional to think their tactics will convert anyone on the fence (in a Dash thread, lol), and in fact, initially turned me against Monero.

I really don't know if Monero can succeed against the advantages that Dash is using so well, the marketing and user friendliness. Because a coin without a user base, a robust network, seems rather pointless. Nevertheless, it's a good fight, very entertaining. But it's not enough to have more ability. You still have to win in the ring.


If trollers in the dash thread initially turned you against Monero then maybe you should not be investing in Monero. Trolls should not have any effect on your decision on which tech/coin to invest in, just do your own due diligence using credible sources.

and the advantages that you mention Dash having "marketing and user friendliness" are not advantages over technical robustness in any way - they are purely transient. and monero has already won in the ring...with its use of ring signatures.
legendary
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Merit: 1748
March 12, 2017, 12:57:15 PM
Thanks for the responses. Very useful in my quest to determine which anoni-coin to support.

But, too bad you can't rein in the relentless trollers in the Dash thread. They are delusional to think their tactics will convert anyone on the fence (in a Dash thread, lol), and in fact, initially turned me against Monero.

I really don't know if Monero can succeed against the advantages that Dash is using so well, the marketing and user friendliness. Because a coin without a user base, a robust network, seems rather pointless. Nevertheless, it's a good fight, very entertaining. But it's not enough to have more ability. You still have to win in the ring.

It's not encouraged by anyone and personally I will spar in the trollbox on Polo with any coin, but I never go into the Dash thread to troll.  I think most of us would not bother (irrespective of our feelings on a coin) as it seems a bit like playground stuff.

Dash has leaped ahead, yes - but how sustainable pure marketing is without the tech to back it up, remains to be seen.  Dash has little real use (no coin has really got traditional retail traction) and the security of network is not a point I would concede given the centralised nature of Dash and it's old-tech based upon BTC code.

Anonymity is a seriously valuable battle ground, the prize is worth fighting for but it's a little early to bet on a winner in crypto.  Price is no indicator of success; BTC is at all time highs, yet even the most important crypto it is riven with infighting and may even have a contentious hard fork split, plus the transactions back up and cost of transactions shows it is not working nearly as well as it should.

Everyone agrees a 'privacy coin' has a place, but it's a way to go.  ETH had a fork, ZEC, a disastrous launch.  I would at least hedge my bets if I were you.  Monero's tech is superior, even if Dash is stealing the limelight for now.  

Good luck with whatever you do.



legendary
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Free spirit
March 12, 2017, 12:36:30 PM
Bashing the competitor is a sign of own weakness and therefore a terrible move to make in terms of PR.

The strength of Dark coin is that it is centralized and 4.1 million coins are locked in masternodes so the pumping can be done only with 3 million coins and thus create an illusion of mass adoption.

and the preminer can take their time in gradually checking out
legendary
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March 12, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
Bashing the competitor is a sign of own weakness and therefore a terrible move to make in terms of PR.

The strength of Dark coin is that it is centralized and 4.1 million coins are locked in masternodes so the pumping can be done only with 3 million coins and thus create an illusion of mass adoption.



I cannot help myself... I am on troll mode now.  Grin
hero member
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March 12, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
Bashing the competitor is a sign of own weakness and therefore a terrible move to make in terms of PR.

The strength of Dark coin is that it is centralized and 4.1 million coins are locked in masternodes so the pumping can be done only with 3 million coins and thus create an illusion of mass adoption.

legendary
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Merit: 1000
March 12, 2017, 12:21:09 PM
Bashing the competitor is a sign of own weakness and therefore a terrible move to make in terms of PR.

The strength of Dark coin is that it is centralized and 4.1 million coins are locked in masternodes so the pumping can be done only with 3 million coins and thus create an illusion of mass adoption.
newbie
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March 12, 2017, 12:18:04 PM
Thanks for the responses. Very useful in my quest to determine which anoni-coin to support.

But, too bad you can't rein in the relentless trollers in the Dash thread. They are delusional to think their tactics will convert anyone on the fence (in a Dash thread, lol), and in fact, initially turned me against Monero.

I really don't know if Monero can succeed against the advantages that Dash is using so well, the marketing and user friendliness. Because a coin without a user base, a robust network, seems rather pointless. Nevertheless, it's a good fight, very entertaining. But it's not enough to have more ability. You still have to win in the ring.
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