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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 820. (Read 3314350 times)

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March 14, 2017, 09:37:00 AM
But I want to believe that you are still always right Grin 
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Bear in mind, I do kinda pull all these numbers out of my ass... so I wouldn't get too excited.  Wink
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 09:06:23 AM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I doubt that it will achieve new ATH any time soon... The chances are Monero is heading towards long term apathy period same as in 2014... But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

I never looked at year 2014 as apathetic year for Monero.  Maybe last 3 months. But it was sort of expected price will decrease because of so much new Moneros being mined everyday.

As apathetic year I would call 2015. Price hit the bottom. And specially people that did not cautiously monitor what developers do, could even thought development stopped. January 1st 2016 of course this changed. 0.9.0 "Hydrogen Helix" hit Cryptospace like a tornado.

Monero started in 2014 too high in my opinion and that's the reason it dropped from 0.004 to 0.001 with the help of some F.U.D.


Lol, yes it was to high and some bought it way to expensive Tongue  But now we do have it. Some sadly dont have any.  What will they do now?

I made the mistake to buy too much for 0.004.

The other mistake I did last year was ignoring Etherium when it was cheap. The mistake of 2017 from me is probably ignoring Dark coin.

You have to much money so way to much troubles and worries. I would try to part from at least part of it. You would sleep way sweeter.
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 08:49:28 AM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I doubt that it will achieve new ATH any time soon... The chances are Monero is heading towards long term apathy period same as in 2014... But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

I never looked at year 2014 as apathetic year for Monero.  Maybe last 3 months. But it was sort of expected price will decrease because of so much new Moneros being mined everyday.

As apathetic year I would call 2015. Price hit the bottom. And specially people that did not cautiously monitor what developers do, could even thought development stopped. January 1st 2016 of course this changed. 0.9.0 "Hydrogen Helix" hit Cryptospace like a tornado.

Monero started in 2014 too high in my opinion and that's the reason it dropped from 0.004 to 0.001 with the help of some F.U.D.


Lol, yes it was to high and some bought it way to expensive Tongue  But now we do have it. Some sadly dont have any.  What will they do now?

I made the mistake to buy too much for 0.004.

The other mistake I did last year was ignoring Etherium when it was cheap. The mistake of 2017 from me is probably ignoring Dark coin.
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 08:42:23 AM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I doubt that it will achieve new ATH any time soon... The chances are Monero is heading towards long term apathy period same as in 2014... But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

I never looked at year 2014 as apathetic year for Monero.  Maybe last 3 months. But it was sort of expected price will decrease because of so much new Moneros being mined everyday.

As apathetic year I would call 2015. Price hit the bottom. And specially people that did not cautiously monitor what developers do, could even thought development stopped. January 1st 2016 of course this changed. 0.9.0 "Hydrogen Helix" hit Cryptospace like a tornado.

Monero started in 2014 too high in my opinion and that's the reason it dropped from 0.004 to 0.001 with the help of some F.U.D.


Lol, yes it was to high and some bought it way to expensive Tongue  But now we do have it. Some sadly dont have any.  What will they do now?
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 08:18:21 AM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I doubt that it will achieve new ATH any time soon... The chances are Monero is heading towards long term apathy period same as in 2014... But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

I never looked at year 2014 as apathetic year for Monero.  Maybe last 3 months. But it was sort of expected price will decrease because of so much new Moneros being mined everyday.

As apathetic year I would call 2015. Price hit the bottom. And specially people that did not cautiously monitor what developers do, could even thought development stopped. January 1st 2016 of course this changed. 0.9.0 "Hydrogen Helix" hit Cryptospace like a tornado.

Monero started in 2014 too high in my opinion and that's the reason it dropped from 0.004 to 0.001 with the help of some F.U.D.
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 08:15:07 AM
Well, by passing $18.40 (and breaking $19) we have now achieved the ATH price when measured against the USD.

I would suggest this metric is actually far more reliable than the BTC market since last Sept (the last generally regarded ATH) BTCs price was about 50% less against the USD than it is today.  Compared to BTC the USD has been relatively stable over the same period.

If BTC's price was the same today as back then, we'd be around 0.05BTC.

So....whoo hoo Smiley

How large portion of your coins you sold?
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 08:14:38 AM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I doubt that it will achieve new ATH any time soon... The chances are Monero is heading towards long term apathy period same as in 2014... But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

I never looked at year 2014 as apathetic year for Monero.  Maybe last 3 months. But it was sort of expected price will decrease because of so much new Moneros being mined everyday.

As apathetic year I would call 2015. Price hit the bottom. And specially people that did not cautiously monitor what developers do, could even thought development stopped. January 1st 2016 of course this changed. 0.9.0 "Hydrogen Helix" hit Cryptospace like a tornado.


I would be curious with bets. in March or April we usually witnessed an annual Spring Monero pump. I have no ideas if this guys still have enough power for such actions as they had in 2015 and 2016.  Daily volumes increased a lot from that time.
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 08:13:19 AM
But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

Wanna make a bet for a few BTC? I say XMR will hit ATH within the next 18 days. You can bet against.

We can use a mutually trusted escrow if you like.

Game?

In the binary betting I give the odds for new ATH in terms of bitcoins within 1 month or so 25 % and no ATH 75 %.
As there is 25 % chance (in my personal opinion) to lose the bet I chose not to bet on that.

Bear in mind, this is not Dark coin which is a wet dream of a speculator (which I was told by one of their community member - but the timing of that was wrong - anyway with correct timing I would not have believed in him/her).

Definitely when Dark coin drops significantly the hoarding of them is a no brainer because it will eventually be pumped back up. In case of Monero I am not so sure....  Undecided
hero member
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March 14, 2017, 05:45:49 AM
Plus, if you win the bet the loser will have the increase in price to pay you with, so you're offering a hedge based on reaching or not reaching ATH.   

...not if the bet is 1000 XMR each, which is what I would propose.
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 05:28:23 AM

I don't bet - but I think that is a generous offer.... at current levels you are looking at a near-doubling in price.

EDIT: Plus, if you win the bet the loser will have the increase in price to pay you with, so you're offering a hedge based on reaching or not reaching ATH.   
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 05:18:00 AM
Dash is now worth twice as much as Monero and people here still believe that the majority of users value integrity of a coin over marketing and usability. Stay in your dream world icebreaker noob.

Now if only it would actually be used for something...
https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360

stay in your bubble bro  Wink

edit: stats for xmr: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5z8ac4/monero_usage_stats_continue_to_rise/

see the difference? One is an overhyped and overmarketed token without a real use-case and flawed features, the other one has steady progress, without aggressive marketing and hyping and with a real use-case...

anywayz, good luck!

best regards

I will keep this for reference. You never know when it will be needed Wink
sr. member
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March 14, 2017, 04:14:50 AM
Dash is now worth twice as much as Monero and people here still believe that the majority of users value integrity of a coin over marketing and usability. Stay in your dream world icebreaker noob.

Now if only it would actually be used for something...
https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834841078234767360

stay in your bubble bro  Wink

edit: stats for xmr: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5z8ac4/monero_usage_stats_continue_to_rise/

see the difference? One is an overhyped and overmarketed token without a real use-case and flawed features, the other one has steady progress, without aggressive marketing and hyping and with a real use-case...

anywayz, good luck!

best regards
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legendary
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March 14, 2017, 02:50:59 AM
But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

Wanna make a bet for a few BTC? I say XMR will hit ATH within the next 18 days. You can bet against.

We can use a mutually trusted escrow if you like.

Game?

USD or BTC?
legendary
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March 14, 2017, 02:49:28 AM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I don't know and think interest is something of a furphy (although given the crypto-sphere's insularity unsurprising).  Such a figure is as dependent on BTC's "value" as it is on XMR's; if BTC lost 50% of its value against the USD and Monero's dollar value remained steady you could buy twice as many BTC.  Would it matter to you?  Would that be a reflection of XMR's strength or BTC's weakness?

In terms of economic value it all gets reduced down to buying power does it not? I appreciate there are other considerations such as inflation that make these tensions more complex but let's appreciate what is happening rather than obsessing over other coins. At present Monero's buying power is (at time of writing) round about as high as its ever been. So, once more...woo hoo.



Spot on, Nano.

I keep a spreadsheet of everything I have in crypto and have for four years or so.  What it tells me is how much I have in fiat to cash out - not bananas.  My mortgage, that car or holiday are priced in fiat - so it makes sense.

legendary
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March 14, 2017, 02:35:41 AM
Happy with price, but it's still looking oversold...

I never understood why you think it's oversold? What is your crystal ball saying? We get about 18k per day right? It looks to me like it's being held tighter lately. and the 1k of btc on the buy side that keeps popping up and disappearing seems to be a manipulator so maybe the 100k on the sell is as well?

I take a look at weekly Stoch RSI charts from time to time and late Feb was as oversold as it's been since mid October last year.  We peaked around Christmas (new dollar ATH set) while we went up along WITH Bitcoin (which was pretty amazing).  We have been heading back to a more balanced position, but it's still not overbought yet from what I see. Just er... Goldilocks-ish.

I have noticed this rise (while volume is at last healthy) has still seen far less BTC stacked on the buy side.  So the BTC that's in Polo is not so much aimed at XMR. You're right to say coins for sale appear to be held tightly.

I think people know XMR could spike so they are keeping an eye, but Dash and ETH are scooping up the Oxygen.  I expected a spring bounce in late Feb, but of course we flatllined until a few days ago.   It's a price reset that was due - but I still think there is room for more - depending on many outside factors..  BTC direction, scaling and forks, Dash eventual crash....

I do not have a crystal ball, but I do have one or two XMR and I keep my eyes well and truly open.

legendary
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March 14, 2017, 01:11:50 AM
But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

Wanna make a bet for a few BTC? I say XMR will hit ATH within the next 18 days. You can bet against.

We can use a mutually trusted escrow if you like.

Game?

My faith rattled slightly with the dash short call. (I was saved when I balked at the lending rates Tongue)  But I want to believe that you are still always right Grin 

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legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
March 14, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

Wanna make a bet for a few BTC? I say XMR will hit ATH within the next 18 days. You can bet against.

We can use a mutually trusted escrow if you like.

Game?

He will never put his money where his mouth is as he knows nothing that comes out of it is worth a shit.

I'm a betting man but I won't take that bet! Cheesy
hero member
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March 14, 2017, 12:34:43 AM
But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy

Wanna make a bet for a few BTC? I say XMR will hit ATH within the next 18 days. You can bet against.

We can use a mutually trusted escrow if you like.

Game?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
March 13, 2017, 11:39:29 PM
What do you think about new ATH on a btc pair? Will we be able to set it in the spring? I think we can see 0.02 very soon but can we bit 0.0265 despite new btc price?

I doubt that it will achieve new ATH any time soon... The chances are Monero is heading towards long term apathy period same as in 2014... But I am glad if you guys prove me wrong here...  Cheesy
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