Topic: [XMR] Monero Technical Discussion (unmoderated) - page 2. (Read 2941 times)

 
Hahaha what the hell is going on here ?
 

You know, you guys could actually come and contribute to the first legitimate, fairly launched, fully open source cryptonote currency, which has support from an actual public, vibrant, and growing community.

If you didn't actually premine 80% the way some claim you did, why are you so dead set on sticking with that dead horse anyway?

Yes, it is. I recall reading on the dev timeline that it will be open source in due course.

And, of course, you know the reasons for that.

It is to stop certain people stealing the code, passing it off as their own, and then attacking, spamming and FUDing the authors of said code.

I answered your original question above (see bold), which I'm pretty sure was already answered elsewhere.

What else is there to discuss?

Why does that require a huge number of posts on multiple threads?

You should go back and read my last post, or maybe you play stupid

Okay, is that all you have to say? Anyone can see when releases were made, and review the more-recent work in github.com.

Why does that require a huge number of posts on multiple threads?

I think you didn't read my post, the original post was on the thread "Why is Monero ignored by the public even though it has the best tech out there?".  

Obviusly, you didn't finish anything for 9 month, so when I point that out, it's on-topic.

If you trying to say I was spamming, that was not your objection when you reply on each of those threads lol.  It was more like, it was offtopic, and I should be banned  

It's quite obvious to me, Monero community is very active with the report button.  What happens then I guess the mods delete it.  mprep said he is trying to find out who deleted it, so we will know.

Of course, the real issue is, if you ever address what I show instead of delete the information, none of this would happen.  

Well I don't support that but if the original place you post it was off topic or the post violated the rules in some other manner maybe that's why it got deleted. It is also possible that if you spammed it all over the place they just deleted all of them instead of wanting to figure out where it belonged (reasonably).

The idea that Monero has some influence over the forum mods is laughable conspiracy-theory/paranoia though.

Frankly whatever valid points you may have to make, your behavior in spamming and reposting the same shit over and over again has looked terrible to me, so I don't blame the mods for coming down on you.

Present your ideas in a more responsible manner and they may get more attention and/or visibility.

If we looked could we find someplace where you originally posted it and it hasn't gotten deleted?

No, the original post was deleted first https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12013449

Then I post it on the Monero thread where it's deleted instantly https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-a-secure-private-untraceable-cryptocurrency-583449

After I post it on the Monero Technical Discussion thread, it's deleted. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-improvement-technical-discussion-1139756

I repost several times with explanation that is is on-topic, but it's deleted instantly every time.  Smooth, you know because you threaten I will be banned from BCT for posting without permission, and you order GingerAle to delete my post.  You have deleted those messages to, but I took a screenshot of the last one:

http://i.imgur.com/oOb9zpG.png

So at that point the information is being completely hidden from BCT users (I think you know why)

I also try to post it on my oriinal thread about how FluffyPony deleted my question where is the updated wallet download link on Reddit : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/monero-no-wallet-update-since-2014-fluffypony-deleting-question-about-it-1139306, then FluffyPony flood the thread with pages of garbage text: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1139306.40 and big messages, I ask him to just respond to the information but he continue to drown the thread with spam, then my post are deleted anyway (from my own thread).

So last, here is this thread, the post has been deleted everywhere else.

I am in touch with the moderators to say not to delete this thread. I think it is important to explain this happened because Smooth and FluffyPony make a lot of effort to try to hide this information and I don't know how they manage to wipe clean this information everytime it is posted.

The GUI is closed source I believe.

Why this is considered a viable approach by anyone is a mystery to me. What is that closed source blob doing with your coins anyway?

The only open source Bytecoin wallet that I know about is....are you ready for it???...command line.

dukey and I exchanged words in another private message, and I feel my response also warrants posting here.  He messaged me claiming that the developers of Monero aren't making any progress and are spending their time focused on other things.  Meanwhile, according to him, Bytecoin is making great progress and reaching new milestones.  My response was,
 

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So, do you believe that a currency that was 80% premined will be accepted by the general public?  That it will be mass adopted when we don't even know where 80% of the float is?  Regardless of any other factor?
 
And I'm assuming that bytecoin is open source as well.  So if what they were doing was really so amazing, we would take a look at it and incorporate it into Monero as well.
 
I'm not a developer, but the facts stand: Monero is open source and anyone can contribute. Contributions to bytecoin don't count in my opinion because the currency itself is invalid.  So they could have a GUI that automatically optimizes my entire life and I still wouldn't use it because there's no honesty there.
 
If you are right, and Monero is honestly incompetent (which I don't believe, let's be clear), then we need new talent.  You are welcome to politely ask the bytecoin developers to join Monero development (the currency of which is still ultra cheap) and put their efforts towards a sustainable currency.  You yourself are welcome to join Monero development.
 
As far as Smooth's work with Aeon, he doesn't represent all of Monero.  He has explained that the coin will make an excellent testing grounds for Monero features, and has publicly acknowledged that he owns a large amount (which is more than I can say for Bytecoin).
 
And again, Aeon didn't come first.  Monero did.  So I am not worried about Aeoncoin disrupting Monero at all, any more than I worry about litecoin overtaking bitcoin.
 
Monero is the best solution, and anyone is welcome to contribute.  If you don't like the way things are going, help bring in talent to independently review the work of fluffy and smooth instead of spamming complaints across the internet.
 
Again, open source project.  The focus is always positive, and should be on how we're going to do better, not trying to point fingers and assign blame.
 
If you really think there is a problem, then work on crowd-funding an independent developer with cryptocurrency knowledge to analyze Monero's code and github contributions and assist with the coding.

Let me ask you this: If we looked could we find someplace where you originally posted it and it hasn't gotten deleted?

If that is the case, then it isn't being surprised, you are just being stopped from spamming it.


No that doesn't follow. If it got deleted 15 times that means you posted it (at least) 15 times, so it may be getting deleted not because someone wants to hide it, but because you are spamming it.

smooth is right, since you have your own thread, there is no need to keep posting it in more threads. Doing that will only add more time in your ban

DID YOU STOP COPY PASTE YOUR STRAW?

I am not spamming it.  Every time I post it on any thread on BCT, it get deleted, so I have to post it somewhere else.

The fact it got deleted 15 times, I know it is information certain people want to hide.  If you know anything about free speech, that means it's worth posting.

If it is garbage, I am waiting for one person to say why.  That would be a lot easier than just getting it deleted so I have to keep repost it

Maybe your posts are being deleted because they are repetitive garbage. If you have something to say, fine, say it once and then move on. Don't spam it.

dukey, everything you have to say is quite easily refuted:  
  
Monero is open source.  It's an open community.  Even my moderation and involvement are an open source of discussion.  
  
If you don't like something, you are welcome to join the Monero developers and help fix whatever problems you claim to see.  Monero was fairly launched, and was the first cryptonote coin to do so.  As I replied to you earlier, if you have proof that Bytecoin was not 80% premined and was a fair and open launch from the genesis please post that.  Then we can discuss whether development efforts should shift to bytecoin since that would then be the first valid implementation of cryptonote.  But until then, everyone knows it isn't.  
  
As far as bitmonero, thankful_for_today is free to continue development of bitmonero as far as I can tell.  He just lost his community by making wildly unpopular decisions, so they decided to take matters into their own hands.  bitMonero did come first, but because every early user abandoned it, development also ceased on it.  As far as I can tell, it's done.  
  
So Monero comes next.
  
It is the first valid implementation of the cryptonote.  It is an open source, community driven project, and if anyone doesn't like something they are welcome to contribute.  If any insiders or devs wanted to cash out, they would simply release a hackneyed GUI, coordinate a pump amongst themselves, and all cash out over the next few months.  It would be easily organized, and *far* easier than developing a world-class currency.  
  
Finally, because this is a community driven coin, if you piss off the community, the robots that it has hired (automoderator) will automatically delete your garbage.  This happens when you get enough reports of trolling and spam.  As you can see, in many ways, we even try to decentralize the moderation.  
  
If you want to criticize Monero for not being developed fast enough, then help.  This isn't Half Life 3; we don't have any secrets or closed doors.  Come on in and be part of the team.  If you can't code, figure out what your talent is and apply it towards the cause.  If you can pontificate, then get your pont on.  If you are a graphic artist, then get your art on.  If you wield a mean shovel, then we will put you to work in the Monero sand pits.  
  
There's something for everyone to do and everyone is welcome.  
  
And that's why you can't levy legitimate criticism against Monero, because you're basically complaining about how its bullshit that your own living room is dirty.  Well then get up and do something about it!  We all live here!

haha this thread, i love it, one post by americanpegasus and troll destroyed.

Please stay on topic. Where are the blackjack and hookers?

How Monero Dev Smooth try to sensor even a link to this thread, because he say my post is off topic 

http://i.imgur.com/oOb9zpG.png