Topic: [XMR] vs [BBR] - Fight!! - CryptoNote War - page 3. (Read 6434 times)

If you need any information about pools or anything BBR related, PM me and I'll get you what you need. Cheers.

i used to mine a bit of BBR but due to lack of GPU pools and solid info ive quit

Meh, needs moar DarkNote.  Its market cap is between XMR and BBR.

XDN has anon msg.  That's just cool.

This thread was created by someone who obviously saw the tech differences between BBR and XMR. I'm not trolling anything, simply giving responses to things that are false or irrelevant.

You seem to think that the BBR community has been destroyed somehow? In my opinion, its stronger than ever. Seriously. I'm getting several PMs a day of people wanting to join and get involved with the promotion and development. Also having a lot of discussions about investments and development applications with others that are contacting me.

Of course, as a "marketing director" I also get to be the punching bag of numerous XMR supporters, but I'm okay with that. I am fairly reluctant to carry a title at all, because I truly believe in the decentralized nature of the BBR community, especially given that it is state-of-the-art anon tech.

And despite what you may think I have absolutely nothing personal against anyone from XMR. People work hard and tirelessly in that community for their community and I applaud that. I work hard to and I respect that in others. I also dont think the leadership of XMR are bad in anyway. I do think they are competitive and I do think many have tried to do what they can to crush CZ and the BBR community because they see it, rightfully so, as a serious threat.

However, I am dedicated to dispelling any of the myths about BBR that have been perpetuated by XMR supporters over the last 5 months.

But trust me, there is a lot of "building up" going on right now.

It's really pathetic seeing these BBR guys out trolling XMR. Instead of trying to build something up, they just want to tear others down. Windjc and slapper are pretty good at that though, seeing as how the two of them both played major roles in destroying the BBR community.

This is a truly ridiculous argument. I mean, what do we have so far, - making fun of the name, saying the dev could die, not understanding basic BBR functionality. This should be a serious discussion, not a bunch of silliness.

Yah God forbid, who will the devs of a competing go to first to seek help  Risto might start getting really anxious 

If only there was already a CN coin that has implemented this   

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commits?author=fluffypony

Nice job modifying readme files, txt files and merging PRs 72 times. When you write an iota of worthwhile code come back and talk to us. Until then enjoy playing wannabe admin. I really don't want to bash other genuine coders., they don't need to dragged into this.

Rfreeman, good job.

Edit: omg you really didn't say Gavin there did you. This is going to be fun popcorn time in future. 

Nice attempt at FUD. Actually, miners can vote to turn this off at any time. There are multiple developers in the BBR eco-system. Do some research.

OP, you forgot this comparison:

Mining fee for dev (aka, tax on the stupid  ): 

• BBR: 1% mandatory
• XMR: 0%

Advantage: XMR

If you mine on a pool, you cannot turn off this fee. Cunning, this CZ dude, he realizes most will mine at pools and won't be able to turn off.
 
Now the fee itself is not bad, devs need to be compensated; but the fact it was enabled since the start of the coin is. It's more respectable to have this fee be decided by the community or from donation, which is what XMR is doing.  Admittedly volunteered donation is not too effective though.

Also, CZ being a single dev possesses a serious single point of failure for BBR. God forbid should CZ have some health issue in the future, who will carry the torch? windjc? slapper?

Teeeee heeee - somebody got SPANKED.

i've watched ur vids fluffy and I'd do you if I was gay ... sexy accent  

You know nothing about me or about where my knowledge, skills, and experience lie. You conflate the amount of work necessary to bring a well thought out feature to fruition with the act of writing the lines of code. Would you, for example, think that a sysadmin who is in a devops role is less valuable than the code monkey he supports? Would you consider the eloquent design from a database architect somehow less worthy than the moron that spits out a few classes for the DAL? Would you argue that the hours of design effort a UI specialist puts into making a wizard intuitive and beautiful should not have his efforts held high against the junior developer who wired up the buttons?

True innovation does not come from code churn. It also does not come from design alone. It comes from straddling the line between well thought through design and the actual implementation. That is predominantly where the core team is and should be focused. It is, therefore, true that the bulk of my work is more architectural than anything else, but you clearly have not actually looked at the github link I provided:



So I guess despite me never claiming that I am a developer, my openly visible commits are there to demonstrate that I am also not incapable of developing.

Unsurprisingly, it is much the same with Bitcoin, where the contributors with the most commits are not always the people doing the bigger picture, design-level efforts: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors (pay particular attention to where gavinandresen is in that, for instance).

The worst thing with your obsession with the metric is that it's embarrassingly outmoded. Even Bill Gates famously said: "Measuring software productivity by lines of code is like measuring progress on an airplane by how much it weighs."


Let's take all 17 names and check to see if they're contributing to "the forks", shall we? You clearly seem to be against lying, so let's make sure you're being accurate. Incidentally, where it says "N commit(s)" under the person's name, you can click on it to see their commits on the project. Probably should have done that first before making such a boldly inaccurate statement.

• fluffypony - me, obviously
• mikezackles - contributor to Monero only
• tewinget - contributor to Monero only
• NoodleDoodle - Monero core team
• decred - contributor to Monero only
• Neozaru - contributor to Monero only
• jakoblind - contributor to Monero only
• Jebes - contributor to Monero only
• paybee - contributor to Monero only
• Jojatekok - contributor to Monero only
• amjuarez - original Bytecoin account
• ekimmo - contributor to Monero only
• vertoe - contributor to Monero only
• tomerkon - contributor to Monero only
• rfree - contributor to Monero only, maybe you need to check his commits first: https://github.com/rfree2monero/bitmonero/commits/development
• zone117x - contributor to Monero only (he wrote our pool software that all of the CN coins use, so pay some respect)
• artifexd - contributor to Monero only

And here I thought you were against the "lying shills", only to discover you are one. For shame!


I'd love to see what your contributions have been to, well, anything besides pseudonymously trolling on the Internet. Clearly you lack the self-confidence required to put yourself up on a live video stream and accept...*gasp*...that people will see your face, and that's ok. I understand. I have had friends who have had serious self-confidence issues, and I want to tell you that it gets better. Your life will get better. And when it gets to that point I have no doubt you'll look back on this era and realise that you accomplished nothing by writing nonsense on a forum on the Internet.

Skinnkavaj is only trying to sell Monero with any arguments possible it can be "blablablabla" as long as it sounds good in random
retards ears that make up for 50% of these forums, there is Moneros market - thats why its marketed in a certain way,

I don't see how what Gavin is doing applies here. Different technologies. One Bitcoin transaction is recorded as one transaction, not n mixins.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure typical blockchain pruning methods that might work on Bitcoin don't work on the CN coins. The developers are going to have to invent novel ways to reduce the size. Although I've heard it mentioned that anything more than linear reduction is probably impossible, but that was a while ago.

I think ultimately it's going to be more about XMR vs NEOS but we shall see.

Bigger isn't always better.  Time will tell which one takes the lead. 

I own both, but at this point i'm leaning more to BBR since Supernet.... jl777 is a coding monster and I have full faith in him

Yes.

2 of important comparisons you should for sure put in here should be:
- daily trading, best in last month, since one day is not so perfect.
- hash power, again average of at least a week.

Volume is that if you buy coins you will be easily able to sell. HAshpower is more stable network and less chances of this attack that CN was facing last days a lot on this forum.