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Quote from: molecular on June 22, 2013, 06:20:40 PM

Quote from: notme on June 22, 2013, 05:18:58 PM

Quote from: myself on June 22, 2013, 05:13:33 PM

Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 03:47:52 PM

Oh, I fully expect the mother of all crashes in real-estate to happen soon.

aye putting bonds and mortages on the sky level and removing any form of state borrow-welfare

this have to big way to end bad
1) politicians invent a new type of enemy, terror and terrorism is getting old to keep Joe's in control
2) Joe's go bananas start to riot and elect some kind of communist+nazi+hippie politician for price controls and all the measures that destroy the economy

cybercrime

these goddamn annoying people.

Why should you care about the peasants out there?

After all you are the new wealthy elite.
Gentlemen!

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Quote from: notme on June 22, 2013, 05:18:58 PM

Quote from: myself on June 22, 2013, 05:13:33 PM

Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 03:47:52 PM

Oh, I fully expect the mother of all crashes in real-estate to happen soon.

aye putting bonds and mortages on the sky level and removing any form of state borrow-welfare

this have to big way to end bad
1) politicians invent a new type of enemy, terror and terrorism is getting old to keep Joe's in control
2) Joe's go bananas start to riot and elect some kind of communist+nazi+hippie politician for price controls and all the measures that destroy the economy

cybercrime

these goddamn annoying people.

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Quote from: myself on June 22, 2013, 05:13:33 PM

Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 03:47:52 PM

Oh, I fully expect the mother of all crashes in real-estate to happen soon.

aye putting bonds and mortages on the sky level and removing any form of state borrow-welfare

this have to big way to end bad
1) politicians invent a new type of enemy, terror and terrorism is getting old to keep Joe's in control
2) Joe's go bananas start to riot and elect some kind of communist+nazi+hippie politician for price controls and all the measures that destroy the economy

cybercrime

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Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 03:47:52 PM

Oh, I fully expect the mother of all crashes in real-estate to happen soon.

aye putting bonds and mortages on the sky level and removing any form of state borrow-welfare

this have to big way to end bad
1) politicians invent a new type of enemy, terror and terrorism is getting old to keep Joe's in control
2) Joe's go bananas start to riot and elect some kind of communist+nazi+hippie politician for price controls and all the measures that destroy the economy

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Quote from: lucif on June 22, 2013, 01:58:05 PM

Quote from: BrightAnarchist on June 22, 2013, 09:16:59 AM

Deflation is here folks

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-inflation-predictions-were-just-wrong-and-now-theyre-hurting-people-2013-6

There is a big mistake in common trader thinking. They think that gold derivatives === gold. They think wtf derivatives === wtf.

This is not true. Derivatives destroyed absolutely any backing goods properties. Trader who buy "gold" doesn't really need gold. All he need is to sell this gold paper to another trader. He doesn't care about gold itself. This is fundamental vulnerability in economy. As well as another one: holder of WTF LLC papers can rent his papers to broker for short selling purposes. So holder of company papers is interested to play against his company.

This is total cancer of economy. This is all invented only to manage this huge amount of free printed dollars. Manage those empty dollars circulation and dont let it stop.

So clear and true words, +10000 on this, lucif

All the derivative financial products and this creating money out of thin air is a blatant scam and a cancer for the economy, but the saddest thing is that actually these types of scams are driving the world economy, they reached its core, and they have infected every bit of it.

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Quote from: ArticMine on June 22, 2013, 03:16:41 PM

Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 01:44:52 PM

Here in Canada the real-estate is still at an all time high. Angry

Just watch bond rates and consequently mortgage rates.

Oh, I fully expect the mother of all crashes in real-estate to happen soon.
I'm just saying I don't see deflation -- yet.

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Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 01:44:52 PM

Here in Canada the real-estate is still at an all time high. Angry

Just watch bond rates and consequently mortgage rates.

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Quote from: BrightAnarchist on June 22, 2013, 09:16:59 AM

Deflation is here folks

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-inflation-predictions-were-just-wrong-and-now-theyre-hurting-people-2013-6

There is a big mistake in common trader thinking. They think that gold derivatives === gold. They think wtf derivatives === wtf.

This is not true. Derivatives destroyed absolutely any backing goods properties. Trader who buy "gold" doesn't really need gold. All he need is to sell this gold paper to another trader. He doesn't care about gold itself. This is fundamental vulnerability in economy. As well as another one: holder of WTF LLC papers can rent his papers to broker for short selling purposes. So holder of company papers is interested to play against his company.

This is total cancer of economy. This is all invented only to manage this huge amount of free printed dollars. Manage those empty dollars circulation and dont let it stop.

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Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 01:28:34 PM

Quote from: BrightAnarchist on June 22, 2013, 10:40:35 AM

I agree. My model is deflation followed by hyperinflation. But don't underestimate the deflationary part of the cycle, it will be (and already is) intense.

Really? I'm still waiting to see prices dropping around me; or at least stop increasing. Huh

It takes a while for falling prices to register in the PPIFGS, since the economy is such a lagging indicator. The thing I'm watching is the collapse in commodities, especially gold and silver. These types of declines are a precursor to falling prices throughout the economy, and we are at the correct time in the K-cycle for deflation (winter). We are very, very early in this new phase - heck, stocks only topped a few weeks ago! Give it time.

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Here in Canada the real-estate is still at an all time high. Angry

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Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 01:37:41 PM

I understand that they are unable to create inflation.

But to say we currently have deflation... I don't see it.

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i think they invented a new term for that called stagflation

That's inflation and stagnation.

Not entirely, nearly every luxury item is decreasing in price, new cars, electronics, real-estate. Of course that doesn't affect people who can't afford luxury items...

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I understand that they are unable to create inflation.

But to say we currently have deflation... I don't see it.

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i think they invented a new term for that called stagflation

That's inflation and stagnation.

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Quote from: Frozenlock on June 22, 2013, 01:28:34 PM

Quote from: BrightAnarchist on June 22, 2013, 10:40:35 AM

I agree. My model is deflation followed by hyperinflation. But don't underestimate the deflationary part of the cycle, it will be (and already is) intense.

Really? I'm still waiting to see prices dropping around me; or at least stop increasing. Huh

because money printing > > deflation

i think they invented a new term for that called stagflation

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Quote from: BrightAnarchist on June 22, 2013, 10:40:35 AM

I agree. My model is deflation followed by hyperinflation. But don't underestimate the deflationary part of the cycle, it will be (and already is) intense.

Really? I'm still waiting to see prices dropping around me; or at least stop increasing. Huh

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Quote from: Miz4r on June 22, 2013, 10:09:08 AM

Quote from: BrightAnarchist on June 22, 2013, 09:16:59 AM

Deflation is here folks

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-inflation-predictions-were-just-wrong-and-now-theyre-hurting-people-2013-6

A period of deflation is not uncommon to see before (hyper)inflation. I wouldn't be too confident if I were you.

I agree. My model is deflation followed by hyperinflation. But don't underestimate the deflationary part of the cycle, it will be (and already is) intense.

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