It would be pretty arbitrary to censor them like that. If you want rules, fine. But at least make them public and transparent before you take their money.
When a company is guilty of material misrepresentation (no prototypes, missing deadline after deadline, etc), I'm pretty sure that's not really arbitrary. I'm sure there is a clause in the advertising agreement that BitcoinTalk.org can suspend or cancel a campaign at any time at their discretion. If not, they should. I think it would be wise to amend the agreement for future campaigns so as to curb potential scammers getting a nice run of orders from a major forum. 
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The responsible approach would be to suspend their campaign without refund until they ship. If they ship, they can either take a refund or exhaust the remainder of the campaign. To leave an advertisement running with so much controversy surrounding the issue is pretty irresponsible in my opinion. There's no telling how many more orders they will get from these ads.
It would be pretty arbitrary to censor them like that. If you want rules, fine. But at least make them public and transparent before you take their money.
The responsible approach would be to suspend their campaign without refund until they ship. If they ship, they can either take a refund or exhaust the remainder of the campaign. To leave an advertisement running with so much controversy surrounding the issue is pretty irresponsible in my opinion. There's no telling how many more orders they will get from these ads.
That's insane. Why is the forum even accepting their advertising money? Sorry for derailing this thread btw, but I'm seeing a lot of BFL warnings lately.
I recently posed this question to Theymos and the forum MODs about banning BFL advertising here. Theymos said he would take a look into it if they dont ship by their next target date (which I have no clue when that is).
That's insane. Why is the forum even accepting their advertising money? Sorry for derailing this thread btw, but I'm seeing a lot of BFL warnings lately.
smoothie, out of curiosity, did you pre-order an ASIC miner from BFL?
Hell to the no.
Screw that. I would never send funds for a device that doesn't exist. BFL in my estimation is a scam now.
With all the delays etc, they are incompetent and those with orders with them should cancel and just buy bitcoin.
smoothie, out of curiosity, did you pre-order an ASIC miner from BFL?
I'm surprised it never actually made it to $100, with people as excited and irrationally bullish as they have been of late. Now I'm not sure if it will ever see $100 this year at all (it may, but it's questionable). It's just been kinda flat/dead lately with unusually low volume, which was not quite what I expected this week but does make sense.
Most of the "smart money" sold into the climb from $75 to $95 (personally, I sold in an inverted pyramid fashion along with them), and let the small fries and pigs gobble it up and hold the risk here. But the market seems to suggest the pigs didn't even have as much money to play with as I thought. The question now, in my mind, is whether there's another group of fools or a gambling pig out there with enough money to blow the bubble up to $100+ before it bursts, or if it will start making a slower and more orderly decline from here as the little guys decide to abandon ship.
I have a slight suspicion that we may sink slowly from here and create a sort of "malformed H&S" ... if that is the case I'd expect the last bounce at the neckline to be a bit weak with relatively low volume. But bitcoiners seem to love chaos lol. In any case, this bubble is just about done, no matter how you want to look at it... it would take a tremendous change in the underlying fundamentals to save it now and support these prices, otherwise it will simply run its course and pop. All miracles aside, the only thing I'm not so sure about is if it will see one last zooming breakout before it dies or not.
But I'm not one to hope for (or bet on) miracles, so I will remain a skeptic/bear unless Bitcoin itself can prove me wrong. I love Bitcoin, but I don't love $80+ bitcoins with this tiny user-base and illiquid/volatile market... But my biggest fear on that account (being wrong) is that the bubble will just grow a bit bigger, people will risk more money on it and then it will implode more violently... and the wake/aftermath might have a more harmful effect on the future of bitcoin. You might convince someone to grab a pot again after they've been burned once, by assuring them it will be cool this time... But after being burned twice will you grab it again? For most people the answer would probably be no...
Regards,
--ATC--
Most of the "smart money" sold into the climb from $75 to $95 (personally, I sold in an inverted pyramid fashion along with them), and let the small fries and pigs gobble it up and hold the risk here. But the market seems to suggest the pigs didn't even have as much money to play with as I thought. The question now, in my mind, is whether there's another group of fools or a gambling pig out there with enough money to blow the bubble up to $100+ before it bursts, or if it will start making a slower and more orderly decline from here as the little guys decide to abandon ship.
I have a slight suspicion that we may sink slowly from here and create a sort of "malformed H&S" ... if that is the case I'd expect the last bounce at the neckline to be a bit weak with relatively low volume. But bitcoiners seem to love chaos lol. In any case, this bubble is just about done, no matter how you want to look at it... it would take a tremendous change in the underlying fundamentals to save it now and support these prices, otherwise it will simply run its course and pop. All miracles aside, the only thing I'm not so sure about is if it will see one last zooming breakout before it dies or not.
But I'm not one to hope for (or bet on) miracles, so I will remain a skeptic/bear unless Bitcoin itself can prove me wrong. I love Bitcoin, but I don't love $80+ bitcoins with this tiny user-base and illiquid/volatile market... But my biggest fear on that account (being wrong) is that the bubble will just grow a bit bigger, people will risk more money on it and then it will implode more violently... and the wake/aftermath might have a more harmful effect on the future of bitcoin. You might convince someone to grab a pot again after they've been burned once, by assuring them it will be cool this time... But after being burned twice will you grab it again? For most people the answer would probably be no...
Regards,
--ATC--
I bet you will be wrong in the next 5-6 days.
Price stability shows that the price is not just part of volatility. Smart money bought in 2012 and hasn't sold yet.
Those who sold between $75 and $95 made profit but may end up buying back in higher.
Don't hold your breath for a large dip in the near term.
I'm surprised it never actually made it to $100, with people as excited and irrationally bullish as they have been of late. Now I'm not sure if it will ever see $100 this year at all (it may, but it's questionable). It's just been kinda flat/dead lately with unusually low volume, which was not quite what I expected this week but does make sense.
Most of the "smart money" sold into the climb from $75 to $95 (personally, I sold in an inverted pyramid fashion along with them), and let the small fries and pigs gobble it up and hold the risk here. But the market seems to suggest the pigs didn't even have as much money to play with as I thought. The question now, in my mind, is whether there's another group of fools or a gambling pig out there with enough money to blow the bubble up to $100+ before it bursts, or if it will start making a slower and more orderly decline from here as the little guys decide to abandon ship.
I have a slight suspicion that we may sink slowly from here and create a sort of "malformed H&S" ... if that is the case I'd expect the last bounce at the neckline to be a bit weak with relatively low volume. But bitcoiners seem to love chaos lol. In any case, this bubble is just about done, no matter how you want to look at it... it would take a tremendous change in the underlying fundamentals to save it now and support these prices, otherwise it will simply run its course and pop. All miracles aside, the only thing I'm not so sure about is if it will see one last zooming breakout before it dies or not.
But I'm not one to hope for (or bet on) miracles, so I will remain a skeptic/bear unless Bitcoin itself can prove me wrong. I love Bitcoin, but I don't love $80+ bitcoins with this tiny user-base and illiquid/volatile market... But my biggest fear on that account (being wrong) is that the bubble will just grow a bit bigger, people will risk more money on it and then it will implode more violently... and the wake/aftermath might have a more harmful effect on the future of bitcoin. You might convince someone to grab a pot again after they've been burned once, by assuring them it will be cool this time... But after being burned twice will you grab it again? For most people the answer would probably be no...
Regards,
--ATC--
Most of the "smart money" sold into the climb from $75 to $95 (personally, I sold in an inverted pyramid fashion along with them), and let the small fries and pigs gobble it up and hold the risk here. But the market seems to suggest the pigs didn't even have as much money to play with as I thought. The question now, in my mind, is whether there's another group of fools or a gambling pig out there with enough money to blow the bubble up to $100+ before it bursts, or if it will start making a slower and more orderly decline from here as the little guys decide to abandon ship.
I have a slight suspicion that we may sink slowly from here and create a sort of "malformed H&S" ... if that is the case I'd expect the last bounce at the neckline to be a bit weak with relatively low volume. But bitcoiners seem to love chaos lol. In any case, this bubble is just about done, no matter how you want to look at it... it would take a tremendous change in the underlying fundamentals to save it now and support these prices, otherwise it will simply run its course and pop. All miracles aside, the only thing I'm not so sure about is if it will see one last zooming breakout before it dies or not.
But I'm not one to hope for (or bet on) miracles, so I will remain a skeptic/bear unless Bitcoin itself can prove me wrong. I love Bitcoin, but I don't love $80+ bitcoins with this tiny user-base and illiquid/volatile market... But my biggest fear on that account (being wrong) is that the bubble will just grow a bit bigger, people will risk more money on it and then it will implode more violently... and the wake/aftermath might have a more harmful effect on the future of bitcoin. You might convince someone to grab a pot again after they've been burned once, by assuring them it will be cool this time... But after being burned twice will you grab it again? For most people the answer would probably be no...
Regards,
--ATC--
Bah... They didn't mention bitcoin. Cold shot.
Ah. Here is it. I got there in Paint 
lmao... I acknowledge your perseverence.
h/sma50 reversing upside. price bouncing off it. bullish.
macd bounce. bullish.
ADX starts new round from low-20th with +Dl higher. bullish.
macd bounce. bullish.
ADX starts new round from low-20th with +Dl higher. bullish.
I don't use log scale because my linux version of Sierra getting glitch when I try to set log scale with user defined range. So I have to use Paint =)
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
[img]theres an image here[img]
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
[img]theres an image here[img]
lol... I love Bitcoin.
Someone should develop a solid Bitcoin trading platform with good charting features. I would donate 0.1 BTC
Anyone know if this exists already?
I'm waiting for Clark Moody to get this flying: https://rtbtc.com/
NICE.
This seems very promising
I don't use log scale because my linux version of Sierra getting glitch when I try to set log scale with user defined range. So I have to use Paint =)
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
[img]theres an image here[img]
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
[img]theres an image here[img]
lol... I love Bitcoin.
Someone should develop a solid Bitcoin trading platform with good charting features. I would donate 0.1 BTC
Anyone know if this exists already?
I'm waiting for Clark Moody to get this flying: https://rtbtc.com/
I don't use log scale because my linux version of Sierra getting glitch when I try to set log scale with user defined range. So I have to use Paint =)
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
[img]theres an image here[img]
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
[img]theres an image here[img]
lol... I love Bitcoin.
Someone should develop a solid Bitcoin trading platform with good charting features. I would donate 0.1 BTC
Anyone know if this exists already?
Ah. Here is it. I got there in Paint
I don't use log scale because my linux version of Sierra getting glitch when I try to set log scale with user defined range. So I have to use Paint =)
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
Upper trend bound is somewhere above 1000. I can't get there neither in bitcoincharts nor in Sierra.
Ending diagonal is a 5th wave *extension* with 3-3-3-3-3 subcount
May be, price will show. It already invalidated about 10 wedges during uptrend off 977 low. Wedge must be confirmed to play it out.
May be, price will show. It already invalidated about 10 wedges during uptrend off 977 low. Wedge must be confirmed to play it out.
If it were to break $75 then rise back up, it would have to be an ending diagonal (wedge) 5th. That would be the only valid count left for the Bullish outlook. I have a count that says we are topped already... I have a few possible counts for both sides, so I'm not saying anything definite. 
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